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Post by CeilingFan on Jul 11, 2019 19:41:48 GMT -5
Skandor Akbar trying to take over World Class Wrestling through "powerful shareholders". This idea of outsiders trying to take over a wrestling company predates the NWO by 7 years.
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Post by cjh on Jul 11, 2019 20:10:02 GMT -5
Ron Garvin as Miss Atlanta Lively received a way more positive reaction from 1985 JCP crowds than you would probably imagine.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 11, 2019 20:12:52 GMT -5
I want to say the alliance between Dusty and Sapphire, but I wasn't watching back then, so it may have been handled poorly in execution, especially by today's standards...
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jul 11, 2019 20:20:18 GMT -5
I want to say the alliance between Dusty and Sapphire, but I wasn't watching back then, so it may have been handled poorly in execution, especially by today's standards... Dusty’s first choice was a black prostitute he liked. So, maybe?
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Jul 11, 2019 20:20:29 GMT -5
The Jake Roberts/Randy Savage feud feels like something that could've realistically happened in the Attitude Era.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jul 11, 2019 20:29:03 GMT -5
GWF of all companies predated the Raven and Sandman's family angle by 3 years, when they had Iceman Parsons brainwash Chris Adams' family.
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Post by wildojinx on Jul 11, 2019 20:34:43 GMT -5
The Jake Roberts/Rick Rude angle was one of the first angles to use a wrestler's actual wife with Cheryl Roberts (unless you count Elizabeth, and they didnt acknowledge that marriage until 1991).
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jul 11, 2019 23:21:09 GMT -5
A lot of CHIKARA's storylines post-Season 5 feel way ahead of their time and incredibly ambitious as using wrestling as a lens to look through to stories of various genres that most wrestling never touches, especially with the rise of promotions like Lucha Underground in more recent times. I'd say it continued all the way up until Season 13. There's some before and after that time frame from the place too, but that's the time period it really ran wild in.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jul 12, 2019 0:15:01 GMT -5
It didn't last long due to injuries, and there's a very good chance WWE would have eventually f'ed it up like they normally do, but the storyline of Haas and Rico. Haas gradually shedding his homophobia and accepting Rico was pretty advanced for McMahonland.
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Post by nickcave on Jul 12, 2019 2:09:17 GMT -5
You could argue Vito’s character was in some ways even though I think the intention on McMahon’s part was ITS FUNNY HE WEARS A DRESS PAL WHAT A FREAK but he was pretty over
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Post by Dub H on Jul 12, 2019 8:54:22 GMT -5
It didn't last long due to injuries, and there's a very good chance WWE would have eventually f'ed it up like they normally do, but the storyline of Haas and Rico. Haas gradually shedding his homophobia and accepting Rico was pretty advanced for McMahonland. In the same sense,for someone that didn't watch at the time. How was Vergil turning against Dibiase done?Seems pretty advanced for the time. Having the african american wrestler fight against the rich white man ,as a face.
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Post by realist on Jul 12, 2019 9:04:59 GMT -5
This is like my go to answer about any sort of old school storylines because I loved it so much, but The Dangerous Alliance in 1992 WCW. They were trying to take over the organization and destroy it, a precursor to the NWO. Also, lead by Paul E. Dangerously, they had the front man in Rick Rude, the great worker in Bobby Eaton, the enforcers in Arn Anderson and Larry Zbysco, and the young diamond in the rough there to learn from all of his stablemates in "Stunning" Steve Austin. I would argue that this was more of a template for Evolution than the Four Horsemen was.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Jul 12, 2019 9:44:38 GMT -5
I don’t know how much storyline there was because this was before my time but hearing about the WWF world champion vs NWA world champion matches like Harley Race vs Billy Graham, Bob Backlund vs Harley Race and Ric Flair vs Bob Backlund surprised me as a kid. There probably wasn’t much outside of some local promos since the champions were too busy working with their own promotions. Along came the WCW buyout and the titles were unified later that year so those previous title vs title matches felt ahead of their time to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 12:07:12 GMT -5
When Terry Funk went from guest legend on commentary to attacking world champ Ric Flair.
They could totally redo this today, and it would be a great and logical way to bring in a legend for a little bit.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Jul 12, 2019 13:10:45 GMT -5
When Terry Funk went from guest legend on commentary to attacking world champ Ric Flair. They could totally redo this today, and it would be a great and logical way to bring in a legend for a little bit. Mark Henry would be perfect! “THE GAS TANK AIN’T EMPTY YET!!!” “I’M NOT THROUGH WITH YOU EITHER!!”
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Post by petef3 on Jul 12, 2019 13:37:38 GMT -5
It didn't last long due to injuries, and there's a very good chance WWE would have eventually f'ed it up like they normally do, but the storyline of Haas and Rico. Haas gradually shedding his homophobia and accepting Rico was pretty advanced for McMahonland. In the same sense,for someone that didn't watch at the time. How was Vergil turning against Dibiase done?Seems pretty advanced for the time. Having the african american wrestler fight against the rich white man ,as a face. That was completely behind the times, actually. White heel challenging black babyface to "shine his shoes" or work for him went way back. Though the WWF honestly didn't bring race into it that much other than the implications--it was about employer vs. employee rather than black vs. white.
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Post by fw91 on Jul 12, 2019 13:42:32 GMT -5
Jake Roberts/Randy Savage
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jul 12, 2019 13:48:52 GMT -5
A lot of CHIKARA's storylines post-Season 5 feel way ahead of their time and incredibly ambitious as using wrestling as a lens to look through to stories of various genres that most wrestling never touches, especially with the rise of promotions like Lucha Underground in more recent times. I'd say it continued all the way up until Season 13. There's some before and after that time frame from the place too, but that's the time period it really ran wild in. One thing about a lot of Chikara's storylines, especially post-BDK, is I think for a lot of people they're more satisfying in retrospect than while they're happening. I'm not quite sure why. Stuff like the birth of Oceanea and the slow takeover of the Hexed Men and Jigsaw siding with Shard are all really tightly written and nicely done looking back, but man was I bored with them while they were happening.
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Post by Wardlow on Wardlow 54 on Jul 12, 2019 14:36:18 GMT -5
A lot of CHIKARA's storylines post-Season 5 feel way ahead of their time and incredibly ambitious as using wrestling as a lens to look through to stories of various genres that most wrestling never touches, especially with the rise of promotions like Lucha Underground in more recent times. I'd say it continued all the way up until Season 13. There's some before and after that time frame from the place too, but that's the time period it really ran wild in. One thing about a lot of Chikara's storylines, especially post-BDK, is I think for a lot of people they're more satisfying in retrospect than while they're happening. I'm not quite sure why. Stuff like the birth of Oceanea and the slow takeover of the Hexed Men and Jigsaw siding with Shard are all really tightly written and nicely done looking back, but man was I bored with them while they were happening. The reason is because they typically run two shows a weekend and a lot of times, those shows are padded with filler. Look at Season 14. You Only Live Twice was the only show on it's weekend and it was great, a lot of hints towards what was to come and matches that made sense. The following month, they ran three shows over two days and boy were they padded to hell. The Flood vs. Chikara stuff was on every show and you basically knew there was going to be a death on the second night, so the first night was skippable. Season 15 was worse, because you had the never-ending Challenge of the Immortals tournament going on. They tried to work storytelling into it, but aside from splitting up The Throwbacks, the attempted corruption of Silver Ant and the underdog story of Crown and Court, most of it fell flat. Fire Ant vs. Soldier Ant, for example, was an awesome match and great storytelling, but the build to it was hurt by the tournament. Did they even square off at all between their matches at the season 14 and 15 finales? Funnily enough, I thought the Hexed Men stuff was the best storytelling they had done since the rebirth. Hallowicked and Frightmare felt like legit top heels and it was nice to see them push both guys as singles stars without breaking them up. And the idea of Chikara's redeemed rudos all being swayed back to the darkside is the type of storytelling only comics usually pull off.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 12, 2019 14:39:23 GMT -5
I'll go with the LWO. It was kind of a groaner in the late 1990s and never really had any pay off due to Eddie's car wreck, but in a lot of ways it set the stage for the various bigger WWE Rey/Eddie feuds and also raised the profile of the lucha guys at the time. It also pointed the way towards groups like LAX some years later.
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