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Post by thegatewaydrug on Jul 12, 2019 16:01:15 GMT -5
York Foundation, circa WCW 1990
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Post by James Fabiano on Jul 12, 2019 21:03:05 GMT -5
York Foundation, circa WCW 1990 I feel instead of the Varsity Club, Russo should have brought Taylor, Rich, and Morton back to 2000 WCW to reprise this gimmick. Instead they could have all been obsessed with the Internet and complain about typical smarky things about the shows. With no York to lead them, they could change their name to Incorporated With Computers, or IWC (LOL, bro). Or Syber Mat Athlete Regional Klub. Or...they can change their names to Mark Taylor, Mark Morton, and Mark Rich, and declare that they are Smart. Oh my God, I'm too deep into Russo think. I'm scared. |
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Jul 12, 2019 22:47:21 GMT -5
When Terry Funk went from guest legend on commentary to attacking world champ Ric Flair. They could totally redo this today, and it would be a great and logical way to bring in a legend for a little bit. It worked like a charm. For the first and only time, my father cheered for Flair. At least until that feud ended. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 23:40:21 GMT -5
The Hart Foundation doing their “the world hates America” shtick a whole four years before the beginning of the war on terror and all the subsequent ‘events’ that would create.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Jul 13, 2019 12:50:08 GMT -5
GWF of all companies predated the Raven and Sandman's family angle by 3 years, when they had Iceman Parsons brainwash Chris Adams' family. This is a really interesting one. I don't know a huge amount about Global, although I'm aware there was a lot of real crap, but from what I recall it was actually pretty groundbreaking in some ways, for example being probably one of the first "major" American promotions to give exposure to cruiserweights.
Mentioning ECW is interesting too, because it's seen as hugely revolutionary - and it was to a degree - but in a lot of ways it was just bringing wrestling back full circle and adapting ideas that had been prevalent in a lot of southern territories in the seventies and early eighties before McMahon crushed them all. It seemed new and edgy because it had come after/during years of cartoony wrestling in the mainstream, but really plenty of ECW angles wouldn't have seemed out of place in the old territories, and vice versa.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jul 14, 2019 5:58:19 GMT -5
In 1983 there was a feud between Mr. Wrestling 2 and someone calling himself Mr. Wrestling 3. This storyline is the ancestor of such classics as Kane vs. Kane.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jul 14, 2019 9:33:17 GMT -5
In the same sense,for someone that didn't watch at the time. How was Vergil turning against Dibiase done?Seems pretty advanced for the time. Having the african american wrestler fight against the rich white man ,as a face. That was completely behind the times, actually. White heel challenging black babyface to "shine his shoes" or work for him went way back. Though the WWF honestly didn't bring race into it that much other than the implications--it was about employer vs. employee rather than black vs. white. I wouldn’t say it was behind the times either. I’m sure they welcomed the classist and racists overtones, but there was no imbiguity about it: you were supposed to view the Million Dollar Man as 100% pure evil. If you thought he was a racist too, that only confirmed that he was an asshole of the highest order. |
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Post by ToyfareMark on Jul 14, 2019 9:37:45 GMT -5
McMemphis.
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Post by Squirrel Master on Jul 15, 2019 23:31:17 GMT -5
When Terry Funk went from guest legend on commentary to attacking world champ Ric Flair. They could totally redo this today, and it would be a great and logical way to bring in a legend for a little bit. whats not to love about this? |
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Post by schma on Jul 15, 2019 23:50:21 GMT -5
I'll go with the LWO. It was kind of a groaner in the late 1990s and never really had any pay off due to Eddie's car wreck, but in a lot of ways it set the stage for the various bigger WWE Rey/Eddie feuds and also raised the profile of the lucha guys at the time. It also pointed the way towards groups like LAX some years later. Sadly because of the way it ended it basically made everyone but Rey look like a chump. It was the most disappointing end to an angle I had see up to that point I think. I mean it's no invasion but it was a terrible ending. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 9:08:50 GMT -5
Goldust vs Razor Ramon is a big one for me...I know Goldust is derivative of earlier gimmicks like Adrian Adonis, but none had ever gone to the level of the overt sexual overtones and the sort of “mindgames” that Goldust was playing with Razor. It felt like an edgier “Attitude Era” type storyline at a time in the WWF where things were still mostly really cartoony.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jul 16, 2019 13:55:17 GMT -5
Goldust vs Razor Ramon is a big one for me...I know Goldust is derivative of earlier gimmicks like Adrian Adonis, but none had ever gone to the level of the overt sexual overtones and the sort of “mindgames” that Goldust was playing with Razor. It felt like an edgier “Attitude Era” type storyline at a time in the WWF where things were still mostly really cartoony. Goldust and Loose Cannon are the definitive answers, I feel. |
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Jul 16, 2019 14:32:47 GMT -5
Randy Savage accusing Hulk Hogan of having an affair
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