Are the Buy Ins supposed to suck on purpose?

[Zone Was Wrong]

Honestly I haven't actually bother with watching them. I usually am busy on Saturday nights with d&d so I get home after the show or after the pre show.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

I got a Sonny Kiss singles match on this Buy In. They can do whatever they want if they keep booking Sonny.

For all the right AND wrong reasons.

[Cyno]

Librarians got genuine heel heat at FFTF. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean your opinion applies to everyone else or the reality of the situation.

Also going by the numbers of people who are watching the pre-shows and the buyrates (or the viewership numbers on B/R Live for the freebies), there is no correlation whatsoever between people watching the pre-show and people not watching the real events. Jim Cornette is the only one really pushing that narrative without any semblance of data to back it up because he's a gasbag.

[bitteroldman]

Jul 15, 2019 19:11:54 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

I got a Sonny Kiss singles match on this Buy In. They can do whatever they want if they keep booking Sonny.

For all the right AND wrong reasons.

I've seen 2 pre shows with Sonny Kiss, both with the sound down. Have the announcers ever explained exoticos, where it comes from, etc? Or did they just toss him out there, in a sort of "look at the freak" presentation? Yes, it's been brought to my attention that the AEW has "smart" fans but knowledge of a small segment of luchadore tradition is a helluva stretch.

[EyeofTyr]

I thought the Buy In's have varied from okay to good. The last one for FFTF was good.

Also while I get the Librarians gimmick isn't everyone's cup of tea, to try to imply Peter or Leva are not good wrestlers...big oof, dude.

And only other thing I have to add is in regards to that one post about women's wrestling...

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If they are supposed to suck then have failed, because they've been pretty good.

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Jul 15, 2019 22:03:51 GMT -5 bitteroldman said:

I've seen 2 pre shows with Sonny Kiss, both with the sound down. Have the announcers ever explained exoticos, where it comes from, etc? Or did they just toss him out there, in a sort of "look at the freak" presentation?

Slow down there. Freak? He's a pro wrestler. 

He's honestly not much different from, say, Johnny B. Badd in WCW. He didn't require an "explanation" for being a wrestler on their shows.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

Jul 15, 2019 22:03:51 GMT -5 bitteroldman said:

Jul 15, 2019 19:11:54 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

I got a Sonny Kiss singles match on this Buy In. They can do whatever they want if they keep booking Sonny.

For all the right AND wrong reasons.

I've seen 2 pre shows with Sonny Kiss, both with the sound down. Have the announcers ever explained exoticos, where it comes from, etc? Or did they just toss him out there, in a sort of "look at the freak" presentation? Yes, it's been brought to my attention that the AEW has "smart" fans but knowledge of a small segment of luchadore tradition is a helluva stretch.

Well, they seem pretty over, and I have no idea what you're talking about regarding exoticos, and have seen and heard nothing to imply any treatment of them like a freak.

[Captain Stud Muffin (BLM)]

Jul 14, 2019 23:04:56 GMT -5 cabbageboy said:

I still think there's zero point to AEW having a women's division since most of the potential viewers are either 1) People who followed these guys in NJPW, 2) People who followed ROH, 3) Lapsed WWE fans from the past few years or 4) Old WCW fans that might be interested in TNT having wrestling again. Really none of those groups are interested in the women, aside from maybe some lapsed WWE fans. There's also that troubling notion that I feel the women's division in AEW is a vehicle to get Brandi Rhodes over, and that is going to SUCK.