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Post by Cyno on Jul 16, 2019 13:24:39 GMT -5
She was booked as the Triple H of the division until injuries caught up with her, so I can understand going from that high to...whatever the f*** was that last night. But the "This is awful!" chants are like, they're not bad. "BORING" chants are a lot more disrespectful and they've got nothing on some of the more uh, creative chants I've heard at indie shows.
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Post by Cela on Jul 16, 2019 13:25:43 GMT -5
So... she's not just heeling right now?
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Post by Some Guy on Jul 16, 2019 13:32:50 GMT -5
I understand her being upset because of the crowd, but it's not really anybody's fault besides the booking that they had a 26 minute match with 4 people that should not be doing that long of matches. You have insane depth on Smackdown for the women's roster and you have Nikki Cross right there, all of them can handle this much better. Or at least more variation.
Also it's more of a point that Alexa's matches are the worst booked over the last few years. Just horribly drawn up constantly.
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Post by Perd on Jul 16, 2019 13:39:19 GMT -5
I put 100% of the blame on Natalya. Everything is her fault. It’s been raining all day and I’m like “F*** Natalya!”
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 14:00:55 GMT -5
I personally blame whoever produced that match rather than Alexa herself. Who books a four way where Alexa just does a bunch of restholds? You save that shit for the final two, not with every opponent. I was fine with her running away and sneaking the pins, but she can do a lot more than Rest holds; she’s shown it time and time again imo.
I also really feel for her on this one. She’s likely going to take the brunt of the hatred, especially when most already loathe her due to the combo of blonde hair and being one of the top stars in the women’s division. On top of that, she likely had to remember the match layout, loves wrestling too much like many in that company, and had been sick for a couple weeks, so it’s likely that tonight was the night that she snapped. Im almost positive a saw her tear up mid match, and she’s usually well at taking heat.
I’m not saying the match isn’t warranted criticism, but these dudes are human beings at the end of the day as well. I’m not gonna call her a sensitive egomaniac for being human and having an off night. These things happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 14:06:58 GMT -5
I personally blame whoever produced that match rather than Alexa herself. Who books a four way where Alexa just does a bunch of restholds? You save that shit for the final two, not with everyone opponent. I wasn’t fine with her running away and sneaking the pins, but she can do a lot more than Rest holds; she’s shown it time and time again imo. I also really feel for her on this one. She’s likely going to take the brunt of the hatred, especially when most already loathe her due to the combo of blonde hair and being one of the top stars in the women’s division. On top of that, she likely had to remember to her match layout, loves wrestling too much like many in that company, and been sick for a couple weeks, so it’s likely that tonight was the night that she snapped. I’m not saying the match isn’t warranted criticism, but these dudes are human beings at the end of the day as well. I’m not gonna call her a sensitive egomaniac for being human and having an off night. These things happen. I think most people actually like her, she even had an approval rating between 65-70% or something when we all did that one survey. It doesn't matter who it is though, when you put on a bad match and go after the fans for not liking your bad match you're going to get dunked on. Becky, Toni Storm, or Asuka would most likely get the same reactions. Xavier Woods pretty much called the fans crybabies and got ripped for it.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Jul 16, 2019 14:35:21 GMT -5
“The trouble with most of us is that we would rather be ruined by praise than saved by criticism." - Norman Vincent Peale
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Post by tankisfreemason on Jul 16, 2019 15:15:39 GMT -5
Nothing new. As long as I’ve watched, people in wrestling usually had the “point the finger/pass the buck” mentality. Some people own up to their mistakes or poor performances, but the wide majority doesn’t. Perfect example is putting Batista and Big Show in the ECW at Hammerstein Main Event, and then never running a show at Hammerstein again after it gets crapped on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 15:21:19 GMT -5
She was booked as the Triple H of the division until injuries caught up with her, so I can understand going from that high to...whatever the f*** was that last night. But the "This is awful!" chants are like, they're not bad. "BORING" chants are a lot more disrespectful and they've got nothing on some of the more uh, creative chants I've heard at indie shows. I personally see nothing wrong with the BORING chants. If anything I wish it happened more as it would be a wake up call for WWE to put on more exciting unpredictable shows. The only chants I hated were the “YOU SUCK CENA/YOU SUCK TYSON” chants... those were disgustingly bad. I don’t even find the “YOU f***ED UP” chants that bad. If anything I find it funny.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 15:22:41 GMT -5
I personally blame whoever produced that match rather than Alexa herself. Who books a four way where Alexa just does a bunch of restholds? You save that shit for the final two, not with every opponent. I was fine with her running away and sneaking the pins, but she can do a lot more than Rest holds; she’s shown it time and time again imo. I also really feel for her on this one. She’s likely going to take the brunt of the hatred, especially when most already loathe her due to the combo of blonde hair and being one of the top stars in the women’s division. On top of that, she likely had to remember the match layout, loves wrestling too much like many in that company, and had been sick for a couple weeks, so it’s likely that tonight was the night that she snapped. Im almost positive a saw her tear up mid match, and she’s usually well at taking heat. I’m not saying the match isn’t warranted criticism, but these dudes are human beings at the end of the day as well. I’m not gonna call her a sensitive egomaniac for being human and having an off night. These things happen. I think most people actually like her, she even had an approval rating between 65-70% or something when we all did that one survey. It doesn't matter who it is though, when you put on a bad match and go after the fans for not liking your bad match you're going to get dunked on. Becky, Toni Storm, or Asuka would most likely get the same reactions. Xavier Woods pretty much called the fans crybabies and got ripped for it. Yeah most fans don't say "I'm mad at who produced the match" or anything like that, it's always directed at the wrestlers themselves since they're actually in the ring. The same applies when it comes to segments as well. They're just doing what they're doing at the end of the day. People on this forum clown these wrestlers all the time when they do something (well online wrestling fans) so whenever I see a wrestler come out and say "hey I didn't like that comment" and then I see the defense responses from fans to me it's like "well shit, yall are always clowning them regardless of what they do." It's not really a matter of if the wrestler's right or wrong at a certain point but a matter of them being clowned on by fans. It's like the Ambrose stuff. Dude was clowned all the time when he was in the company but the moment he's like "man this sucked" it's like "oh hey yay Moxley is with us now he's great, clown em like we do" but the moment he denounces what fans liked (like that jokey silly stuff he hated) people keep bringing it up. I don't know. I just don't like that whole clowning wrestler culture people have going on thing. I don't even think this as a whole is a big deal as it's her opinion. Whatever's an opinion is an opinion when it comes to stuff like this. The the topic, the match was bad and Alexa's fine to have her opinion, same as though who thought it was bad.
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Post by adamclark52 on Jul 16, 2019 15:32:19 GMT -5
I’d like to see some of these WWE donks who have never been outside the WWE umbrella work in front of a real wrestling crowd.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Jul 16, 2019 15:42:33 GMT -5
Did she have a bad match? Does a bear shit in the woods? Does Alexa Bliss shit in the woods after having a bad match with a bear?
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Post by Nickybojelais on Jul 16, 2019 15:49:48 GMT -5
I apologise for calling your boring match boring
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 16, 2019 15:55:27 GMT -5
I personally blame whoever produced that match rather than Alexa herself. Who books a four way where Alexa just does a bunch of restholds? You save that shit for the final two, not with every opponent. I was fine with her running away and sneaking the pins, but she can do a lot more than Rest holds; she’s shown it time and time again imo. I also really feel for her on this one. She’s likely going to take the brunt of the hatred, especially when most already loathe her due to the combo of blonde hair and being one of the top stars in the women’s division. On top of that, she likely had to remember the match layout, loves wrestling too much like many in that company, and had been sick for a couple weeks, so it’s likely that tonight was the night that she snapped. Im almost positive a saw her tear up mid match, and she’s usually well at taking heat.I’m not saying the match isn’t warranted criticism, but these dudes are human beings at the end of the day as well. I’m not gonna call her a sensitive egomaniac for being human and having an off night. These things happen. A heel who breaks character and cries because the crowd hurt their feelings with a G-rated chant sucks. This shouldn't even be debatable. Your job is to be hated and revel in it, and you cry.
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Jul 16, 2019 15:56:43 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 15:59:13 GMT -5
I personally blame whoever produced that match rather than Alexa herself. Who books a four way where Alexa just does a bunch of restholds? You save that shit for the final two, not with every opponent. I was fine with her running away and sneaking the pins, but she can do a lot more than Rest holds; she’s shown it time and time again imo. I also really feel for her on this one. She’s likely going to take the brunt of the hatred, especially when most already loathe her due to the combo of blonde hair and being one of the top stars in the women’s division. On top of that, she likely had to remember the match layout, loves wrestling too much like many in that company, and had been sick for a couple weeks, so it’s likely that tonight was the night that she snapped. Im almost positive a saw her tear up mid match, and she’s usually well at taking heat.I’m not saying the match isn’t warranted criticism, but these dudes are human beings at the end of the day as well. I’m not gonna call her a sensitive egomaniac for being human and having an off night. These things happen. A heel who breaks character and cries because the crowd hurt their feelings with a G-rated chant sucks. This shouldn't even be debatable. Your job is to be hated and revel in it, and you cry. She’s been boeed and held her own plenty of times. One bad night doesn’t mean she’s automatically bad at her job.
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Post by DSR on Jul 16, 2019 15:59:46 GMT -5
who else thinks Rollins and Bliss would make a better couple than Rollins and Lynch? IT SHOULD'VE BEEN ME!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 16:02:06 GMT -5
I personally blame whoever produced that match rather than Alexa herself. Who books a four way where Alexa just does a bunch of restholds? You save that shit for the final two, not with every opponent. I was fine with her running away and sneaking the pins, but she can do a lot more than Rest holds; she’s shown it time and time again imo. I also really feel for her on this one. She’s likely going to take the brunt of the hatred, especially when most already loathe her due to the combo of blonde hair and being one of the top stars in the women’s division. On top of that, she likely had to remember the match layout, loves wrestling too much like many in that company, and had been sick for a couple weeks, so it’s likely that tonight was the night that she snapped. Im almost positive a saw her tear up mid match, and she’s usually well at taking heat. I’m not saying the match isn’t warranted criticism, but these dudes are human beings at the end of the day as well. I’m not gonna call her a sensitive egomaniac for being human and having an off night. These things happen. I think most people actually like her, she even had an approval rating between 65-70% or something when we all did that one survey. It doesn't matter who it is though, when you put on a bad match and go after the fans for not liking your bad match you're going to get dunked on. Becky, Toni Storm, or Asuka would most likely get the same reactions. Xavier Woods pretty much called the fans crybabies and got ripped for it. Yeah most fans don't say "I'm mad at who produced the match" or anything like that, it's always directed at the wrestlers themselves since they're actually in the ring. The same applies when it comes to segments as well. They're just doing what they're doing at the end of the day. People on this forum clown these wrestlers all the time when they do something (well online wrestling fans) so whenever I see a wrestler come out and say "hey I didn't like that comment" and then I see the defense responses from fans to me it's like "well shit, yall are always clowning them regardless of what they do." It's not really a matter of if the wrestler's right or wrong at a certain point but a matter of them being clowned on by fans. It's like the Ambrose stuff. Dude was clowned all the time when he was in the company but the moment he's like "man this sucked" it's like "oh hey yay Moxley is with us now he's great, clown em like we do" but the moment he denounces what fans liked (like that jokey silly stuff he hated) people keep bringing it up. I don't know. I just don't like that whole clowning wrestler culture people have going on thing. I don't even think this as a whole is a big deal as it's her opinion. Whatever's an opinion is an opinion when it comes to stuff like this. The the topic, the match was bad and Alexa's fine to have her opinion, same as though who thought it was bad. Yeah, I truly don’t understand why people online get so angry/disappointed at the wrestlers for voicing their personal frustrations; Same shit happened with Seth as well. Like, yeah they’re characters, but they’re also humans underneath those characters. She isn’t demanding anyone to enjoy the match, but she personally felt slighted that the match got shat on. On top of that, she gets shit from podcasters, fans, Twitter DMs, etc. I’m surprised it’s took her this long to crack tbh. It really isn’t that big of a deal since it’s her opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 16:07:24 GMT -5
I wonder how much of it was also the dumb "no wrestling during the breaks" shit. When Carmella and Naomi were eliminated, I imagine there was a whole lot of standing around doing nothing after.
Boils down to this: It shouldn't have been an elimination rules match and it should've been 10 minutes, tops.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 16:16:40 GMT -5
Yeah most fans don't say "I'm mad at who produced the match" or anything like that, it's always directed at the wrestlers themselves since they're actually in the ring. The same applies when it comes to segments as well. They're just doing what they're doing at the end of the day. People on this forum clown these wrestlers all the time when they do something (well online wrestling fans) so whenever I see a wrestler come out and say "hey I didn't like that comment" and then I see the defense responses from fans to me it's like "well shit, yall are always clowning them regardless of what they do." It's not really a matter of if the wrestler's right or wrong at a certain point but a matter of them being clowned on by fans. It's like the Ambrose stuff. Dude was clowned all the time when he was in the company but the moment he's like "man this sucked" it's like "oh hey yay Moxley is with us now he's great, clown em like we do" but the moment he denounces what fans liked (like that jokey silly stuff he hated) people keep bringing it up. I don't know. I just don't like that whole clowning wrestler culture people have going on thing. I don't even think this as a whole is a big deal as it's her opinion. Whatever's an opinion is an opinion when it comes to stuff like this. The the topic, the match was bad and Alexa's fine to have her opinion, same as though who thought it was bad. Yeah, I truly don’t understand why people online get so angry/disappointed at the wrestlers for voicing their personal frustrations; Same shit happened with Seth as well. Like, yeah they’re characters, but they’re also humans underneath those characters. She isn’t demanding anyone to enjoy the match, but she personally felt slighted that the match got shat on. On top of that, she gets shit from podcasters, fans, Twitter DMs, etc. I’m surprised it’s took her this long to crack tbh. It really isn’t that big of a deal since it’s her opinion. Yeah, I didn't mind the Seth stuff either since that's his opinion. It's no different than fans saying "hey we don't like this" except in the case of fans, their opinions aren't seen much. It's like people's opinions on what a woman's gear looks like. Yeah it's your opinion but shit.
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