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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 22, 2019 20:28:33 GMT -5
Knight was at one point, along with Fallout 4, a game that I figured would really compel me to get a PS4, but after seeing the mixed reception on both, my interest cooled. I'll play them some day, but even years after release I'm in no rush as Spider-Man and Red Dead 2 are much higher priority in terms of play. It at its core is a really good game. Combat is crisp, story is okay and you get a ton of shit to do in the world. The mixed reception comes in some of the other stuff like the "boss fights" being underwhelming along with the tank which overstays its welcome. I've beaten it twice and enjoyed the game through but it falls short of an amazing game due to shortcomings just a really good game imo However, Red Dead and Spider-Man are must plays. Some of the best games in this generation and ever imo. Spider-Man can be argued as the best superhero game ever over City or Asylum If you can get the game to run since the PC version flat out doesn't. So much so they pulled it from steam and gave refunds... Then realized it was too broken and rereleased it as is... |
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Post by Starshine on Jul 22, 2019 20:30:44 GMT -5
All of them.
I loved that series.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 22, 2019 20:31:03 GMT -5
I got all of them in city.
Knight didn't work on PC and kept screwing up on me on xbox so I never felt like finishing it.
And I really disliked Asylum.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2019 20:35:35 GMT -5
Only in Asylum.
It sucked.
I didn't bother with any of the other games, especially Knight, considering you have to work with the Batmobile to get a good portion of them, and f*** the Batmobile.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 23, 2019 11:02:52 GMT -5
It at its core is a really good game. Combat is crisp, story is okay and you get a ton of shit to do in the world. The mixed reception comes in some of the other stuff like the "boss fights" being underwhelming along with the tank which overstays its welcome. I've beaten it twice and enjoyed the game through but it falls short of an amazing game due to shortcomings just a really good game imo However, Red Dead and Spider-Man are must plays. Some of the best games in this generation and ever imo. Spider-Man can be argued as the best superhero game ever over City or Asylum If you can get the game to run since the PC version flat out doesn't. So much so they pulled it from steam and gave refunds... Then realized it was too broken and rereleased it as is... Yeah, the PC f*** up was a big black eye and they had no excuses for a game that hyped to be so f***ed up at release and ruining an experience for a portion of your fans |
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Post by lionheart21 on Jul 23, 2019 11:04:58 GMT -5
Got them all in Asylum, City and Knight. Never played Origins.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 23, 2019 11:19:34 GMT -5
Not even close. I'd grab a few in the course of the game, but the jumping through hoops and things to get em, nah.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jul 23, 2019 11:36:53 GMT -5
I came close in Asylum. Never even bothered with the others unless they were directly in front of me.
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Post by King Devitt on Jul 23, 2019 21:37:28 GMT -5
City. I'll be damned if I'm ever doing that again in any of the other games. yeah...pretty much this. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 18:45:40 GMT -5
This feels like as good a thread as any to say something I've been thinking for a long time now - that Arkham City killed the appeal of the series.
Arkham City is still an excellent game - I don't think I like it quite as much as Asylum but if I'm going to replay Asylum I'm always going to play City right afterward - but.... One of the big appeals of Asylum is how it really isn't anything remarkable at all. It's just you stepping into a completely ordinary night as Batman, that's even emphasized by the ending where he immediately turns around to go fight Two-Face.
Then City suddenly retroactively turns that into, like, the single most significant night in the history of the city where everything came together snowballing to this huge showdown on the horizon, with drastically boosted stakes, and the whole thing just got really hung up on itself. Then Origins, while the story is presented very well, is much the same thing, being much more about all these big significant events in Bruce's life that all first happened the same night and it's just putting way too much focus on the narrative over just being Batman. Then Knight just kind of takes that one step further to trying to bring everything to this grand climax that's mostly just pretty stupid.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 26, 2019 18:51:23 GMT -5
This feels like as good a thread as any to say something I've been thinking for a long time now - that Arkham City killed the appeal of the series. Like, Arkham City is still an excellent game - I don't think I like it quite as much as Asylum but if I'm going to replay Asylum I'm always going to play City right afterward - but, like.... One of the big appeals of Asylum is how it really isn't anything remarkable at all. It's just you stepping into a completely ordinary night as Batman, that's even emphasized by the ending where he immediately turns around to go fight Two-Face. Then City suddenly retroactively turns that into, like, the single most significant night in the history of the city where everything came together snowballing to this huge showdown on the horizon, with drastically boosted stakes, and the whole thing just got really hung up on itself. Then Origins, while the story is presented very well, is much the same thing, being much more about all these big significant events in Bruce's life that all first happened the same night and it's just putting way too much focus on the narrative over just being Batman. Then Knight just kind of takes that one step further to trying to bring everything to this grand climax that's mostly just pretty stupid. I would disagree because it is not like City came from nowhere. The plans were there for something big but we just didn't know how big. Arkham City increased the appeal imo which is why people wanted another game to see how big the stakes could be and a Batman world potentially without Joker. They fumbled Knight but City was so great that the bar was very high |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 19:23:26 GMT -5
I guess I'm in the minority in that I found Knight fine. Definitely not on the level of Asylum and City, but a good game overall. There was disappointment in where/how some of the plot ended up, and the Batmobile was overused(especially in one of the boss fights. Probably the biggest missed opportunity with that one). But I liked the feel of it. Though I just played it for the first time when it hit Xbox Game Pass last month, so maybe any bugs that were there have been fixed by now.
I also agree that raising the stakes and the games becoming about the most dangerous night in Batman's career seemed to always be the plan. Asylum feels like Rocksteady keeping the game restrained so they could focus on not f***ing it up. The legacy of shitty superhero games looked large over them.
And while we're here, Origins is good. Alright. It had its share of bugs, and it basically just re-skinned bosses from Asylum/City, but I'm a sucker for things set at Christmas. The assassins were a diverse group of villains, many not utilized a lot in other media, so they felt fresh.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jul 26, 2019 19:36:50 GMT -5
This feels like as good a thread as any to say something I've been thinking for a long time now - that Arkham City killed the appeal of the series. Like, Arkham City is still an excellent game - I don't think I like it quite as much as Asylum but if I'm going to replay Asylum I'm always going to play City right afterward - but, like.... One of the big appeals of Asylum is how it really isn't anything remarkable at all. It's just you stepping into a completely ordinary night as Batman, that's even emphasized by the ending where he immediately turns around to go fight Two-Face. Then City suddenly retroactively turns that into, like, the single most significant night in the history of the city where everything came together snowballing to this huge showdown on the horizon, with drastically boosted stakes, and the whole thing just got really hung up on itself. Then Origins, while the story is presented very well, is much the same thing, being much more about all these big significant events in Bruce's life that all first happened the same night and it's just putting way too much focus on the narrative over just being Batman. Then Knight just kind of takes that one step further to trying to bring everything to this grand climax that's mostly just pretty stupid. That concept felt like a consequence of the open world non-linear set-up. Keeping a coherent narrative while allowing for completion with the player's preferences and with no day/night cycle to suggest time has passed basically meant they had to jam the entire event onto one night. Moreover since the entire main campaign is sold on being Batman, they weren't keen on having story sections where you play as Nightwing or Robin taking the load off Bruce for a bit. Basically every possible way to not make it some overlapping explosion of plots Batman was dealing with was closed off in one way or another. |
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Post by CMWaters on Jul 26, 2019 23:47:55 GMT -5
I only got Asylum's...but that's because while I want to, haven't played much of City or any of Origins or Knight.
I'll probably try for them just to say I did.
Slightly off topic though...I still want to see Rocksteady try a different hero. Either Superman (just so we HOPEFULLY could FINALLY get a good Superman game) or if that's too hard with his powers, have something similar but with less power overload with a Wonder Woman game.
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Post by Cyno on Jul 27, 2019 0:36:06 GMT -5
Got them all in Asylum. Never beat Arkham City, though I got the Riddler trophies I could.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 27, 2019 1:16:32 GMT -5
And while we're here, Origins is good. Alright. It had its share of bugs, and it basically just re-skinned bosses from Asylum/City, but I'm a sucker for things set at Christmas. The assassins were a diverse group of villains, many not utilized a lot in other media, so they felt fresh. Origins is extremely underrated. Best boss battles in the series, and the only game to really make the most of Batman being the world's greatest detective. Plus I love that different areas of the map pay homage to the design of Burton and Schumacher's versions of Gotham. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 1:28:17 GMT -5
I mostly like Origins. It has some problems - how buggy it is (though it's probably less so than the PS4 port of City), its roller coaster of a difficulty curve, how much it's blatantly recycling from City, crowbarring the Joker into it, the way it bends over backwards to try to do Rises Bane while still keeping to his established continuity in the first two games - but its story is the best presented one in the series, it's the one game in the series that has genuinely great boss fights, it gives some very underused villains a shine and the only one it really wastes is Lady Shiva, and it's the one game in this series that has genuinely good DLC.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Jul 27, 2019 3:07:29 GMT -5
Did it in the entire trilogy. Helps that Riddler is one of my favorite villains, so anything content related to him I wanted to experience and see.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 27, 2019 11:03:37 GMT -5
The only thing I didn't like about Origins is the twist where "oh it's Joker again." Even that didn't hinder my enjoyment that much, but would have preferred the straight forward Black Mask plot.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 27, 2019 11:40:30 GMT -5
The only thing I didn't like about Origins is the twist where "oh it's Joker again." Even that didn't hinder my enjoyment that much, but would have preferred the straight forward Black Mask plot. Yea, that is a big complaint because it had no real reason to be there whatsoever especially coming off the heels of Joker dying in Arkham City and thinking he is done with the story even with Origins being a prequell |
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