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Post by wildojinx on Aug 15, 2019 14:38:11 GMT -5
Same here, my fav era is the 86-94 era (basically, the Phil Hartman years). Almost every episode has one classic sketch. Hartman night actually be the most important character outside of Murphy because of his range as an actor he was able to do so much and fill in so many cracks. Yeah, once you watch the 94-95 season you can tell they're missing something without Hartman, they tried having Micheal McKean be a replacement (even playing Clinton and being the spokesman for the fake commercials), but it wasnt the same.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 15, 2019 15:21:32 GMT -5
Almost any season is better than that really weird one where they filled the cast with a bunch of established John Hughes actors. That was just weird.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Aug 15, 2019 15:25:46 GMT -5
Never been huge into SNL but, wow, that's some bad material. You mean to tell me they got in trouble for Charles dropping an F-bomb but not when he dropped THAT racial slur on air? I'd say different times but you're absolutely right to question that. Funny that not counting Eddie Murphy the person to have most success career wise after that season is Gilbert Godfried. Of course, his success is more based on his stand up and voice work then his run on SNL.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Aug 15, 2019 15:26:33 GMT -5
Hartman night actually be the most important character outside of Murphy because of his range as an actor he was able to do so much and fill in so many cracks. Yeah, once you watch the 94-95 season you can tell they're missing something without Hartman, they tried having Micheal McKean be a replacement (even playing Clinton and being the spokesman for the fake commercials), but it wasnt the same. The show treaded water for two years where the only reason to watch the show was Weekend Update
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Post by wildojinx on Aug 15, 2019 15:36:13 GMT -5
Almost any season is better than that really weird one where they filled the cast with a bunch of established John Hughes actors. That was just weird. 84-85 was also kind of a weird season as it was a mix of some of the lesser lights of the Ebersol cast (Mary Gross, Gary Kroger, Julia Louis-Dreyfuss) and guys who had already been established (Billy Crystal, Christopher Guest, Harry Shearer).
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 15, 2019 15:48:25 GMT -5
Almost any season is better than that really weird one where they filled the cast with a bunch of established John Hughes actors. That was just weird. 84-85 was also kind of a weird season as it was a mix of some of the lesser lights of the Ebersol cast (Mary Gross, Gary Kroger, Julia Louis-Dreyfuss) and guys who had already been established (Billy Crystal, Christopher Guest, Harry Shearer). Is there an established reason? NBC demanding stars perhaps.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Aug 15, 2019 16:01:25 GMT -5
84-85 was also kind of a weird season as it was a mix of some of the lesser lights of the Ebersol cast (Mary Gross, Gary Kroger, Julia Louis-Dreyfuss) and guys who had already been established (Billy Crystal, Christopher Guest, Harry Shearer). Is there an established reason? NBC demanding stars perhaps. according to the Live from New York book Dick Ebersol knew it was going to be his last season and decided to do something different and bring in the established stars, so it the show itself rather than the network who made the decision
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Post by salz4life on Aug 15, 2019 17:40:13 GMT -5
Is there an established reason? NBC demanding stars perhaps. according to the Live from New York book Dick Ebersol knew it was going to be his last season and decided to do something different and bring in the established stars, so it the show itself rather than the network who made the decision That book was a really good read!
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 15, 2019 17:59:05 GMT -5
These were also the years where the show lost its intent and became something else. Note that this time mentioned here when things improved (mid to late 80s) is when Michaels came back and they started featuring newer up and coming talent.
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Post by DSR on Aug 15, 2019 22:51:03 GMT -5
Almost any season is better than that really weird one where they filled the cast with a bunch of established John Hughes actors. That was just weird. That was the first season with Lorne back at the helm. It had its moments, but they knew it wasn't what it was supposed to be. The season finale featured a cliffhanger where they acted like they set the building on fire and Lorne wondered aloud who would survive (before jumping back in really quick to grab Jon Lovitz, who had some breakout material that year).
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Post by madness50 on Aug 16, 2019 0:43:08 GMT -5
I remember when Netflix had the season up during the period when they had all of SNL up (heavily cut episodes with no music, of course, but still some content) a few years ago. Just the little amount they put on there, it was really awful. For those that were around during that time, was it close to getting cancelled during that season? I mean it was truly bad. The closest the show has ever come to being cancelled was in 1986 if I’m not mistaken. That 1985-86 season was the absolute shits. Was a weird mix of cast members and very few people returned for the following season. Lorne caught lightning in a bottle with getting Hartman, Carvey, Hooks, etc. They really saved the show from getting booted.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Aug 16, 2019 1:05:16 GMT -5
As a kid I got hooked on SNL during the 80-81 season. My parents would go out every other Saturday and the babysitter they hired,the teenager that lived next door,would let me stay up to watch SNL with her. Same lady that introduced me to David Letterman.
As far as SNL's peak...for me it starts in 85 or so and by 96 it ends. Since the 97-98 season I might watch 1 episode a year. Might be I am older or that my taste in comedy is odd. But there hasn't been much on SNL since the late 90s that appeals to me. Like the infamous More cowbell skit. It is funny,the first time you see it,but once everybody was repeating it it lost what made it funny.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Aug 16, 2019 1:30:38 GMT -5
according to the Live from New York book Dick Ebersol knew it was going to be his last season and decided to do something different and bring in the established stars, so it the show itself rather than the network who made the decision That book was a really good read! It is a great book, like that it doesn't pull any punches like with cast members who didn't have a good time or one's that didn't get along
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Post by Welfare Willis on Aug 16, 2019 2:19:55 GMT -5
That book was a really good read! It is a great book, like that it doesn't pull any punches like with cast members who didn't have a good time or one's that didn't get along Cough *chevychase* cough cough But everyone knows about the dick-atude of Chevy Chase. Not to veer into slighty off topic, but I was surprised the Victoria Jackson, Jan Hooks, and I think Nora Dunn didn't get along during that time. It's been a while since I read the book so if I get that wrong, please correct me.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Aug 16, 2019 2:33:21 GMT -5
It is a great book, like that it doesn't pull any punches like with cast members who didn't have a good time or one's that didn't get along Cough *chevychase* cough cough But everyone knows about the dick-atude of Chevy Chase. Not to veer into slighty off topic, but I was surprised the Victoria Jackson, Jan Hooks, and I think Nora Dunn didn't get along during that time. It's been a while since I read the book so if I get that wrong, please correct me. I remember one of the Chevy Chase stories, when he was guest hosting in the 80s, he suggested a recurring segment where they say openly gay cast member Terry Sweeney as AIDs and they weigh him each week. going off memory Nora Dunn and Jan Hooks hated each other, and according to Victoria it was more like they were bullying her, but I guess the dislike went all 3 ways, also slightly unrelated but Nora quit when Andrew Dice Clay was made guest host, odd sometimes what you remember
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