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Post by chazraps on Sept 14, 2019 19:10:17 GMT -5
Bret Hart, though I wouldn't blame him for being bitter. I disagree. Watch a 2009/2010 Bret interview and watch him today, he's really mellowed out and come around significantly. Doing that program for Mania 26 and that last run really seemed to bury a lot of hatchets for him.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Sept 14, 2019 19:13:36 GMT -5
Bret Hart, though I wouldn't blame him for being bitter. I disagree. Watch a 2009/2010 Bret interview and watch him today, he's really mellowed out and come around significantly. Doing that program for Mania 26 and that last run really seemed to bury a lot of hatchets for him. That, and he said he caught on to those around him encouraging him to speak out about every little thing and egging him on just to get him worked up to get *those* kinds of online reactions from him, which is why he stepped back.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 14, 2019 19:17:31 GMT -5
Bret Hart, though I wouldn't blame him for being bitter. I disagree. Watch a 2009/2010 Bret interview and watch him today, he's really mellowed out and come around significantly. Doing that program for Mania 26 and that last run really seemed to bury a lot of hatchets for him. Yea, I think the stuff with him, Shawn and Vince really gave him a bit of peace that he had not had in years
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Sept 14, 2019 19:24:19 GMT -5
I disagree. Watch a 2009/2010 Bret interview and watch him today, he's really mellowed out and come around significantly. Doing that program for Mania 26 and that last run really seemed to bury a lot of hatchets for him. Yea, I think the stuff with him, Shawn and Vince really gave him a bit of peace that he had not had in years And it’s the reason I will always try to defend Bret/Vince at WM26. Yes, the match is an abomination but we got to see Bret in a ring again and it seemed to give him the opportunity to let go of all the hate that had been eating away at him for over a decade.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Sept 14, 2019 19:27:05 GMT -5
I feel like Bret has good days and Bret has bad days. Most bitter, I don't want to say, because we already have enough threads about him on here these days.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 14, 2019 19:29:33 GMT -5
Yea, I think the stuff with him, Shawn and Vince really gave him a bit of peace that he had not had in years And it’s the reason I will always try to defend Bret/Vince at WM26. Yes, the match is an abomination but we got to see Bret in a ring again and it seemed to give him the opportunity to let go of all the hate that had been eating away at him for over a decade. Oh yeah the match was complete garbage but it was cathartic for Bret even if he didn't realize it
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 19:46:02 GMT -5
There's a whole thread opining on Cornette's attitude problems and while I broadly agree with the sentiment that he's playing some shock jock character to keep interest in his podcasts and shoots, his anger at the current product is real and like many of his generation/background manages to be both a bully and a snowflake at the same time and in there not deeply buried is some genuine sadness and anger that so few contemporary wrestlers respect him. With Prichard, Jarrett and Bischoff back in the fold at titan towers and several WCW alumni getting backstage work for AEW every time the phone rings at Jim's house he probably explodes with excitement only to deflatedly put it down 5 minutes later having given a hapless telesales employee a piece of his mind.
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Post by bob on Sept 14, 2019 20:07:08 GMT -5
Jim Cornette and Ole Anderson come to mind immediately.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Sept 14, 2019 20:07:50 GMT -5
I’ve met Vader a few times. Unfortunately he was pretty miserable every time. I brought him some stuff to sign from Japan that was kind of rare. Whenever I’ve done something like that I usually get a very impressed or appreciative reaction. It can lead to some pretty cool conversations too. Vader seemed annoyed because he went on to say, “I never got paid for this! I never got paid for this either! They never paid me for this! They were supposed to pay me for this!” So much bitterness. I got off easy though. At one convention there was a short guy that looked like Bill Apter, it wasn’t him but looked a lot like him, that had apparently paid Vader to sign a big pile of 8x10s. Vader got through about a third of the pile when the guy came over and said something to him. Maybe to sign faster or something. Idk. All of the sudden Vader threw the pile at him and said, “Get the f*** outta here!” The guy said he paid for everything to be signed and Vader moved towards him saying, “You got enough from me! Get the f***outta here!” The guy quickly grabbed what he could of the photos and ran away. I was always a big fan of Vader but he was not a happy guy. Certainly not the times I’d seen him around.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 14, 2019 22:29:52 GMT -5
Ole Anderson. Not sure why since it seems like he retired with quite a bit of money. It's not like a Billy Jack Haynes situation where he is bitter because he's broke and wrestling left him with nothing. For whatever reason this has been the word for decades about Ole. Even watching his shoot interview from years ago he comes off like a grumpy old man that screams and hollers about everything. I don't feel Ole is bitter at all. He does not tolerate fools and he has a very low-key but vicious sense of humor. Can certainly be an asshole to people if they push his buttons.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Sept 14, 2019 22:39:31 GMT -5
Bret Hart, though I wouldn't blame him for being bitter. Even during his 'worst' period, he always seemed to find time to say nice things about many of his former coworkers, even Shawn as a performer, he's outspoken in his praise for Kevin Nash too. Compare that to Ole Anderson, Dynamite Kid, Warrior before his HOF induction, Billy Graham and so on, who seldom had a nice thing to say about anyone, he was never, ever in their league of embittered bumholeness. Bret is far from the most bitter guy in the business. In his case it's just that he was a much bigger star than an Ole Anderson or a Billy Jack Haynes, so it was a lot more visible.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Sept 14, 2019 22:50:29 GMT -5
Bret Hart, though I wouldn't blame him for being bitter. I’ve spent time with Bret on a couple of occasions and shot the shit with him and what I got from him is that he’s not actually bitter, that’s just how he comes across. He speaks in a very matter-of-fact way and I don’t think he realizes how it can be perceived. It’s very much a sort of “Well, this is what happened” and he’s blunt and he might not speak glowingly about a situation or a person, but I don’t think he’s angry at all. If anything, I think he’s really come to terms with a lot of grievances he might have held in the past.
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Post by RowdyRobbyPiper on Sept 15, 2019 0:02:23 GMT -5
There's a whole thread opining on Cornette's attitude problems and while I broadly agree with the sentiment that he's playing some shock jock character to keep interest in his podcasts and shoots, his anger at the current product is real and like many of his generation/background manages to be both a bully and a snowflake at the same time and in there not deeply buried is some genuine sadness and anger that so few contemporary wrestlers respect him. With Prichard, Jarrett and Bischoff back in the fold at titan towers and several WCW alumni getting backstage work for AEW every time the phone rings at Jim's house he probably explodes with excitement only to deflatedly put it down 5 minutes later having given a hapless telesales employee a piece of his mind. That’s an unfair statement. He is self-aware enough to know he can’t handle the pressure that is corporate wrestling. He has managed to make his podcasts and his online store a sustainable business without having to leave home.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 15, 2019 0:10:32 GMT -5
Billy Jack Haynes is a bitter old man but, as others have said, I don't blame him. Not one bit.
Ole Anderson has always been like that. It's hard to really tell if him getting old brought it out of him, or just made it more noticeable.
"Superstar" Billy Graham? I just think he's a douche, To be honest.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 15, 2019 0:11:34 GMT -5
Bret Hart, though I wouldn't blame him for being bitter. I’ve spent time with Bret on a couple of occasions and shot the shit with him and what I got from him is that he’s not actually bitter, that’s just how he comes across. He speaks in a very matter-of-fact way and I don’t think he realizes how it can be perceived. It’s very much a sort of “Well, this is what happened” and he’s blunt and he might not speak glowingly about a situation or a person, but I don’t think he’s angry at all. If anything, I think he’s really come to terms with a lot of grievances he might have held in the past. Bret's just blunt. He's always been like that.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 15, 2019 0:23:37 GMT -5
There's a whole thread opining on Cornette's attitude problems and while I broadly agree with the sentiment that he's playing some shock jock character to keep interest in his podcasts and shoots, his anger at the current product is real and like many of his generation/background manages to be both a bully and a snowflake at the same time and in there not deeply buried is some genuine sadness and anger that so few contemporary wrestlers respect him. With Prichard, Jarrett and Bischoff back in the fold at titan towers and several WCW alumni getting backstage work for AEW every time the phone rings at Jim's house he probably explodes with excitement only to deflatedly put it down 5 minutes later having given a hapless telesales employee a piece of his mind. Corny left the main WWE corporate structure by choice in the 90s as he hated Connecticut and the travel to go live in Louisville and do OVW. He hated the interference and incompetence of WWE officials when he was there so there is zero chance he's living his life waiting for the call to go back into that. He's stated numerous times he is where he us by choice and is happy where he is, doing his podcasts, shoots, occasional appearances on cons and minor shows without that stress and grief.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 15, 2019 0:31:11 GMT -5
Thinking of Corny, how about Vince Russo? It very clearly eats at him he's never going to be invited back in the fold after his antics at WCW, disrupting TNA and trying to get a job at Fox behind the WWE's back and the people at AEW just plain don't want to know. He wants back in but the door has been slammed shut, nailed closed and the building caved in over his head.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Sept 15, 2019 0:53:45 GMT -5
Bill Eadie always comes off as angry He’s actually a really easy going good guy. I’ve spoken to him several times and he’s very easy to talk to and he’s more than happy to talk to wrestling fans. I’ve only heard him be somewhat annoyed twice. One time was when discussing Smash staying behind in the WWF to do the Repoman gimmick when he already agreed to go to WCW with Ax to be Demolition over there. That’s been water under the bridge for over a decade now. They’re always together at shows since. The other time was when he was running a tour overseas with a bunch of ex WWF guys and Brutus Beefcake started treating him like a mark promoter by bragging about himself and making all kinds of demands. Eadie, who has quite a bit of seniority over Beefcake, let him know he wasn’t having it. There was some speculation that Beefcake was messed up on some substances at the time and didn’t know his place. He was told to shut up and get his act together or go home. Apparently Beefcake decided to calm down and start showing more respect to the veterans around him after that. I could see people thinking Bill Eadie has a bit of a serious tone to him but he’s super easy to talk to. Just approach him in a friendly manner and you’re more than likely to get the same reaction in return. Ask him about Andre and listen to him tell some great stories. He’s a totally cool dude.
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Post by Shark on Sept 15, 2019 1:02:17 GMT -5
I disagree. Watch a 2009/2010 Bret interview and watch him today, he's really mellowed out and come around significantly. Doing that program for Mania 26 and that last run really seemed to bury a lot of hatchets for him. Yea, I think the stuff with him, Shawn and Vince really gave him a bit of peace that he had not had in years He himself admitted as much in the Rivals interview he did with JR and Shawn. It started with Vince when they talked after Bret had his stroke and then he finally found full peace with Shawn in 2010.
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Post by Kyn on Sept 15, 2019 2:36:29 GMT -5
Maybe Cornette isn't bitter, but he can sure come across that way sometimes.
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