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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 12:43:53 GMT -5
Janela even knows Cass needs help. The fact I've seen some fans questioning if this is a work or that Cass did this in the right state of mind is silly. Yea, Janela is not even using this in a way to help him and flat out saying that man needs help so that should tell you all you need to know Not everything is a work especially when the public wouldn't be privy to it. The damn cops don't play that game I hate when wrestling fans claim everything is a work. I mean shit, these are real f***ing people. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 15, 2019 12:45:55 GMT -5
Yea, Janela is not even using this in a way to help him and flat out saying that man needs help so that should tell you all you need to know Not everything is a work especially when the public wouldn't be privy to it. The damn cops don't play that game I hate when wrestling fans claim everything is a work. I mean shit, these are real f***ing people. Because people don't want to be "worked" so they got to get ahead of the pack so they can say I told you so. This isn't a situation where you should be claiming a work because if it was, it would be disgusting Cass needs help, end of story. No need to make fun of him, just hope he gets the help he needs |
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Post by Cyno on Sept 15, 2019 12:46:17 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm glad Janela realizes the guy needs help and won't rub salt in the wound with pressing charges that could derail things even further. Especially as it sounds like he, Cass, and Enzo buried hatchets the night before at the NEW show.
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Sept 15, 2019 12:51:18 GMT -5
Janela even knows Cass needs help. The fact I've seen some fans questioning if this is a work or that Cass did this in the right state of mind is silly. Huge huge *huge* respect to Joey Janela for recognizing what was happening and not doing anything to make it worse. |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 15, 2019 12:55:24 GMT -5
If this was a work there'd be a ton of tweets right now. If Janela decided to promo himself and turn this into a work for his own profile there'd be tweets--when you get mileage out of being a doof on the internet once, the chance for a repeat performance with the last guy's tag partner is the obvious next step. Dude's doing none of that. All he's said is:
and he may have moments of being a total jackass, but right there in the moment, dude's being a stand-up guy who's trying to guide the conversation toward "Big Cass is in need of help" instead of "hey, my fans, bombard this dude with untold amounts of garbage". It's the right thing to do.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 15, 2019 12:57:58 GMT -5
Janela even knows Cass needs help. The fact I've seen some fans questioning if this is a work or that Cass did this in the right state of mind is silly. Huge huge *huge* respect to Joey Janela for recognizing what was happening and not doing anything to make it worse. Shows you that these dudes are human at the end of the day. Janela likes to troll and do crazy shit but that's all in wrestling context. Take out the wrestling and you see a man who realized a troubled individual needs help and is not trying to do anything to prop himself up or put that other person down |
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 15, 2019 13:31:23 GMT -5
If this was a work there'd be a ton of tweets right now. If Janela decided to promo himself and turn this into a work for his own profile there'd be tweets--when you get mileage out of being a doof on the internet once, the chance for a repeat performance with the last guy's tag partner is the obvious next step. Dude's doing none of that. All he's said is: and he may have moments of being a total jackass, but right there in the moment, dude's being a stand-up guy who's trying to guide the conversation toward "Big Cass is in need of help" instead of "hey, my fans, bombard this dude with untold amounts of garbage". It's the right thing to do. I don't totally see eye to eye with Janela and have seen him at his worse with fans. But I admit this is the high road to take. Now...do we know what other people at WP have had to say? I do know people there who HAVE had fans "bombard [someone] with garbage" when things didn't go their way and I will leave it at that. Plus another unruly "superstar" incident they experienced, the one with Sabu and the hotel room, led to endless sniping between Sabu and WP talent on Twitter. |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 15, 2019 13:37:42 GMT -5
If this was a work there'd be a ton of tweets right now. If Janela decided to promo himself and turn this into a work for his own profile there'd be tweets--when you get mileage out of being a doof on the internet once, the chance for a repeat performance with the last guy's tag partner is the obvious next step. Dude's doing none of that. All he's said is: and he may have moments of being a total jackass, but right there in the moment, dude's being a stand-up guy who's trying to guide the conversation toward "Big Cass is in need of help" instead of "hey, my fans, bombard this dude with untold amounts of garbage". It's the right thing to do. I don't totally see eye to eye with Janela and have seen him at his worse with fans. But I admit this is the high road to take. Now...do we know what other people at WP have had to say? I do know people there who HAVE had fans "bombard [someone] with garbage" when things didn't go their way and I will leave it at that. Plus another unruly "superstar" incident they experienced, the one with Sabu and the hotel room, led to endless sniping between Sabu and WP talent on Twitter. You are bringing up something you're not supposed to talk about a startling amount of times in this thread for it being something you're not supposed to talk about. |
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Post by Muskrat on Sept 15, 2019 14:08:11 GMT -5
This is really unfortunate to hear, I was really rooting for him to pull things together and get another shot with WWE, AEW or Impact. Hopefully he finds the help he needs
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Sept 15, 2019 14:16:43 GMT -5
I have no idea what Janela ever did to make people dislike him so much, and I don't care because I'm not a dirtsheet believer. I enjoy him as a wrestler and that's all I need from him. That said, I'm really glad to see he's not piling on and recognizes that Cass is in a lot of trouble. It would have been very easy and understandable for him to have pressed charges in the heat of the moment, but the fact that he kept a level head and is not going to add another issue on top is a beyond-solid move. Especially given the issues he has already had with Enzo's dumb ass.
I have never cared for Cass as a performer and, given some of the choices he's made in and out of the ring, never gave him much stock as a person either. But I REALLY, genuinely hope he gets whatever help he needs. I have suffered from severe depression and anxiety my entire life and witnessed my mom have a mental break when I was a teeneager. These problems are very real and can make good people do bad things for no reason at all.
I do believe Cass is a good person with some severe problems. On the other hand, I think Enzo is a giant piece of shit who has contibuted directly to the problems that Cass has. The first thing they should do to help Cass is get him away from Enzo for good.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 15, 2019 14:36:40 GMT -5
I have no idea what Janela ever did to make people dislike him so much, and I don't care because I'm not a dirtsheet believer. I enjoy him as a wrestler and that's all I need from him. That said, I'm really glad to see he's not piling on and recognizes that Cass is in a lot of trouble. It would have been very easy and understandable for him to have pressed charges in the heat of the moment, but the fact that he kept a level head and is not going to add another issue on top is a beyond-solid move. Especially given the issues he has already had with Enzo's dumb ass. I have never cared for Cass as a performer and, given some of the choices he's made in and out of the ring, never gave him much stock as a person either. But I REALLY, genuinely hope he gets whatever help he needs. I have suffered from severe depression and anxiety my entire life and witnessed my mom have a mental break when I was a teeneager. These problems are very real and can make good people do bad things for no reason at all. I do believe Cass is a good person with some severe problems. On the other hand, I think Enzo is a giant piece of shit who has contibuted directly to the problems that Cass has. The first thing they should do to help Cass is get him away from Enzo for good. Janela trolls and can be an attention whore for no reason other then that it brings attention to himself Cass is a grown man and if he chooses to be around Enzo that is his own issue. It is a bit unfair to blame Enzo for Cass own problems. Instead of trying to dish blame, it is better to just focus on Cass and the help he needs |
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Sept 15, 2019 15:00:40 GMT -5
All sorts of respect to Joey Janela for his handling of this. Pressing charges would have been understandable in the situation, and maybe even justified. It would have been easy for him to exploit this to get attention, but he decided to take the high road and be the bigger person.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 15, 2019 15:07:36 GMT -5
Hey guys, the last couple of pages have had the seams start coming apart on this thread with people wanting to argue with each other over stupid and mostly-unrelated stuff. Stop that. Let's keep this as what it needs to be, and please stop trying to start fights with one another. Thank you.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Sept 15, 2019 15:36:26 GMT -5
Sad to hear, I thought I just read new rumors that the WWE thought about bring Cass back, (No Enzo) just him. I hope he gets help and gets things back on track. I haven't heard him before getting professional help, I hope now he does. Cass is one of those guys that has a lot of potential if his head was right. Lets hope we get to see him living up to it at some point.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 15, 2019 16:30:41 GMT -5
I am glad Janela's not pressing charges for a variety of reasons. He's trying to be a decent dude to someone he feels needs help, and I am inclined to agree, but had he pressed charges, I could see some people try to spin that as a slight against him under macho bullshit reasoning that he should have "taken care of Cass himself, instead of hiding behind cops, rah rah rah", so on and so forth. This spares him any of that bullshit, especially since AEW's TV is coming in less than a month, and he doesn't need that noise. Sad to hear, I thought I just read new rumors that the WWE thought about bring Cass back, (No Enzo) just him. I hope he gets help and gets things back on track. I haven't heard him before getting professional help, I hope now he does. Cass is one of those guys that has a lot of potential if his head was right. Lets hope we get to see him living up to it at some point. Triple H publicly refuted the rumors that he wanted Enzo, Cass, or both, and accused Enzo of seeding the rumors to begin with for hype. Cass denies any involvement from either of them, not sure if Enzo has commented on it one way ore another. |
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Post by Dub H on Sept 15, 2019 16:53:48 GMT -5
I am glad Janela's not pressing charges for a variety of reasons. He's trying to be a decent dude to someone he feels needs help, and I am inclined to agree, but had he pressed charges, I could see some people try to spin that as a slight against him under macho bullshit reasoning that he should have "taken care of Cass himself, instead of hiding behind cops, rah rah rah", so on and so forth. This spares him any of that bullshit, especially since AEW's TV is coming in less than a month, and he doesn't need that noise. Sad to hear, I thought I just read new rumors that the WWE thought about bring Cass back, (No Enzo) just him. I hope he gets help and gets things back on track. I haven't heard him before getting professional help, I hope now he does. Cass is one of those guys that has a lot of potential if his head was right. Lets hope we get to see him living up to it at some point. Triple H publicly refuted the rumors that he wanted Enzo, Cass, or both, and accused Enzo of seeding the rumors to begin with for hype. Cass denies any involvement from either of them, not sure if Enzo has commented on it one way ore another. Yeh the burn was good but even when Triple H said that there was no evidence of such. Which comes of pretty petty IMO.Anyway I wonder if he already was having issues like that when went against Vince's order. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 15, 2019 17:03:20 GMT -5
I am glad Janela's not pressing charges for a variety of reasons. He's trying to be a decent dude to someone he feels needs help, and I am inclined to agree, but had he pressed charges, I could see some people try to spin that as a slight against him under macho bullshit reasoning that he should have "taken care of Cass himself, instead of hiding behind cops, rah rah rah", so on and so forth. This spares him any of that bullshit, especially since AEW's TV is coming in less than a month, and he doesn't need that noise. Triple H publicly refuted the rumors that he wanted Enzo, Cass, or both, and accused Enzo of seeding the rumors to begin with for hype. Cass denies any involvement from either of them, not sure if Enzo has commented on it one way ore another. Yeh the burn was good but even when Triple H said that there was no evidence of such. Which comes of pretty petty IMO.Anyway I wonder if he already was having issues like that when went against Vince's order. Direct evidence? Not so much, but given stuff like his trying to create buzz by buying a ticket and getting himself kicked out for creating a disturbance in the front row of a WWE show, it's pretty much in character for Enzo to do that. |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Sept 15, 2019 17:21:44 GMT -5
Yeh the burn was good but even when Triple H said that there was no evidence of such. Which comes of pretty petty IMO.Anyway I wonder if he already was having issues like that when went against Vince's order. Direct evidence? Not so much, but given stuff like his trying to create buzz by buying a ticket and getting himself kicked out for creating a disturbance in the front row of a WWE show, it's pretty much in character for Enzo to do that. Also, that rumour had to come from somewhere, Meltzer can get worked but someone still has to be working him, and if there was nothing internal about the idea of bringing Enzo back then where the hell did it come from? Only person who comes to mind who could or would is Enzo. |
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 15, 2019 17:42:57 GMT -5
I don't think Enzo and his shenanigans are the topic here, guys. Let's keep it focused.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 15, 2019 19:17:00 GMT -5
On Joey, I think he battled his own demons when he destroyed his leg so he probably recognizes when someone needs help. Now its apples and oranges but still probably easy for Joey to turn the other cheek.
As for Cass, that hits home for me. I legit lost my little cousin a few days ago and from what I heard from my family he was having similar issues. My cousin was refusing help. Hopefully Cass is willing and able to get help
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