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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 15, 2019 21:28:59 GMT -5
Yes, I think it is time to start prepping up a heel to dethrone Kofi. He has had a PHENOMENAL (Sorry AJ) title run but with this Orton W it is time to move on. There is really nothing else Kofi can do and you don’t want this title reign to get long in the tooth with Kofi always overcoming the odds
So with that said, who do you think takes him down. Ideally it should be someone who could carry the momentum Kofi had. I wouldn’t be against another Daniel Bryan reign. Brock is probably a top executive choice. Roman is due but idk how much he actually wants that as he seems content with just doing feuds and having fun
To go off the broken path, I’d have a guy like Lashley or even Drew take the title off of him. Get them a few months with the title before Mania roles around and you can put it on someone else. Braun would also be a choice
Changed the thread title for the Kofi vs Brock announcement for the SD Premiere. This might end up being a fallout thread too if/when Kofi lose
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Post by Chiral on Sept 15, 2019 21:30:14 GMT -5
I wish the Orton feud hadn't lost so much momentum because the idea of doing a 10 years later Team Kofi vs. Team Orton is cool to me. Maybe Kofi loses it to someone at HIAC via Orton interference setting that up, because Orton/Kofi has very little steam as a world title program right now.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 15, 2019 21:31:45 GMT -5
I wish the Orton feud hadn't lost so much momentum because the idea of doing a 10 years later Team Kofi vs. Team Orton is cool to me. Maybe Kofi loses it to someone at HIAC via Orton interference setting that up, because Orton/Kofi has very little steam as a world title program right now. That AJ Styles special killed the momentum last month WWE did not know how to extend this feud. Kofi should have been given a buffer match in between this
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 21:32:02 GMT -5
I've kind of been getting the impression they're trying to drag it to Mania for a New Day triple threat.
That said... Yeah, I feel like he's done everything he needs to do and should just lose it already. Although if it's between him and Lesnar then PLEASE just keep it on Kofi. If you're going to have a directionless champion with no potential decent payoff at least have it be one who's actually on the show every week.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Sept 15, 2019 21:35:09 GMT -5
If it's Brock I may be back to being on break from watching until he loses. On the plus side, I have been working way more closing shifts on Mondays and Fridays so it may not be that difficult. And Wednesday is my Forged In Fire night and I ain't missing that for anything if I can avoid it.
I wouldn't mind Roman winning obviously but not as a face.
After finding out about that disturbing "species de-evolution"/eugenics crap that Bryan believes in I never want him to win the title again. He's on Jay Briscoe levels of "never again" to me now.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Sept 15, 2019 21:35:31 GMT -5
See, I agree but I ain't f***ing with none of the alternatives unless they randomly put it on Rey-Rey or Andrade. Otherwise, keep the homie Kofi strapped up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 21:35:55 GMT -5
Yeah I agree. Kofi's cool, Kofi's dope and he's had an amazing run so it's cool for him to lose now. Orton was the final stop for him so yeah, I'm cool with it.
I've been predicting for a while that Kofi was losing either on the debut Fox SDL or in that first feud so having him win is what it is. He's like Becky, Seth, AJ last year, he's like that long reigning defending champion, that champion's cheers always decrease so this happening to Kofi makes complete sense. No he's not hated as he was cheered on SDL a few days prior, yeah the crowd might have booed some but this happens to every long-reigning champion including each of those mentioned above.
But Kofi's good, it's time for him to lose the belt to someone. I say this: either have Lesnar beat Kofi for the title as Lesnar would be a good sendoff or build up a new lead heel on SDL. It can be Andrade, it can be McIntyre, shit I'd even be cool with Corbin being drafted and beating Kofi, either's good with me.
What this needs to turn into though is an Ali storyline. Have Kofi lose to the lead heel and have Kofi fail at getting his title back. Have Ali pick up some wins with his matches and then next year have Ali/Kofi with the winner facing the lead heel. Ali wins, gets Kofi's blessing and boom, Ali wins at WM.
Given officials are high on Ali now it's possible and it's a great story. Let's just hope it goes that direction.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 21:36:16 GMT -5
I'm not even a Dolph hater, but Kofi's title reign started going downhill the moment they had him feud with Dolph.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Sept 15, 2019 21:38:41 GMT -5
Yeah. It's time.
On paper this all looks great, he overcame his past and did the impossible. If this goes on much longer the crowd might turn on him though since there's no interesting stories lined up now.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 15, 2019 21:41:10 GMT -5
Yeah. It's time. On paper this all looks great, he overcame his past and did the impossible. If this goes on much longer the crowd might turn on him though since there's no interesting stories lined up now. It would be borderline close to New Day a few years ago when they got really stale but always kept winning and people were just going what the f*** Except that was the tag titles, not the WWE title
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 21:41:24 GMT -5
Yeah I agree. Kofi's cool, Kofi's dope and he's had an amazing run so it's cool for him to lose now. Orton was the final stop for him so yeah, I'm cool with it. I've been predicting for a while that Kofi was losing either on the debut Fox SDL or in that first feud so having him win is what it is. He's like Becky, Seth, AJ last year, he's like that long reigning defending champion, that champion's cheers always decrease so this happening to Kofi makes complete sense. No he's not hated as he was cheered on SDL a few days prior, yeah the crowd might have booed some but this happens to every long-reigning champion including each of those mentioned above. But Kofi's good, it's time for him to lose the belt to someone. I say this: either have Lesnar beat Kofi for the title as Lesnar would be a good sendoff or build up a new lead heel on SDL. It can be Andrade, it can be McIntyre, shit I'd even be cool with Corbin being drafted and beating Kofi, either's good with me. What this needs to turn into though is an Ali storyline. Have Kofi lose to the lead heel and have Kofi fail at getting his title back. Have Ali pick up some wins with his matches and then next year have Ali/Kofi with the winner facing the lead heel. Ali wins, gets Kofi's blessing and boom, Ali wins at WM. Given officials are high on Ali now it's possible and it's a great story. Let's just hope it goes that direction. I really think trying to push Ali into the title scene right now would be a pretty genuinely awful idea. He's the kind of performer built for the slow climb and, while maybe this has changed in the last month or so, at least from previous experience pretty much no crowd actually reacts to him.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Sept 15, 2019 21:42:16 GMT -5
He's just not bringing it in the ring to warrant keeping it on him.
Is he hurt? Is he complacent?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 15, 2019 21:43:36 GMT -5
He's just not bringing it in the ring to warrant keeping it on him. Is he hurt? Is he complacent? I don't put as much blame on him for that SD one on one world title matches have been just not all that good for a good while now. Outside of Mania, they are just standard wrestling matches when in many instances it should be very crazy contested matches
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 21:44:43 GMT -5
He’s in a bad position with this feud where he looked bad at SummerSlam, and he’s booked against Orton, who still gets a lot of fan love despite being a heel. The fans were really not into his act tonight, which was rough to hear.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 21:45:49 GMT -5
Kofi beats Reigns cleanly in their first match and a frustrated Reigns cheats and turns heel (teaming up with Joe?) to win the title in the rematch, would be more original than Brock deciding to show up.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 21:46:03 GMT -5
Yeah I agree. Kofi's cool, Kofi's dope and he's had an amazing run so it's cool for him to lose now. Orton was the final stop for him so yeah, I'm cool with it. I've been predicting for a while that Kofi was losing either on the debut Fox SDL or in that first feud so having him win is what it is. He's like Becky, Seth, AJ last year, he's like that long reigning defending champion, that champion's cheers always decrease so this happening to Kofi makes complete sense. No he's not hated as he was cheered on SDL a few days prior, yeah the crowd might have booed some but this happens to every long-reigning champion including each of those mentioned above. But Kofi's good, it's time for him to lose the belt to someone. I say this: either have Lesnar beat Kofi for the title as Lesnar would be a good sendoff or build up a new lead heel on SDL. It can be Andrade, it can be McIntyre, shit I'd even be cool with Corbin being drafted and beating Kofi, either's good with me. What this needs to turn into though is an Ali storyline. Have Kofi lose to the lead heel and have Kofi fail at getting his title back. Have Ali pick up some wins with his matches and then next year have Ali/Kofi with the winner facing the lead heel. Ali wins, gets Kofi's blessing and boom, Ali wins at WM. Given officials are high on Ali now it's possible and it's a great story. Let's just hope it goes that direction. I really think trying to push Ali into the title scene right now would be a pretty genuinely awful idea. He's the kind of performer built for the slow climb and, while maybe this has changed in the last month or so, at least from previous experience pretty much no crowd actually reacts to him. I'm not saying right now. I'm saying that if they work with him well by WM it could work and maybe not this WM but next year's WM. He's not ready for the title.
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Post by Perd on Sept 15, 2019 21:47:08 GMT -5
Yeah, it’s time. I think he’s made a great baby face champion. And tonight he vanquished the guy that “held him down” for ten years. He can lose now and be considered a great champion who proved he belongs.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 15, 2019 21:48:48 GMT -5
I really think trying to push Ali into the title scene right now would be a pretty genuinely awful idea. He's the kind of performer built for the slow climb and, while maybe this has changed in the last month or so, at least from previous experience pretty much no crowd actually reacts to him. I'm not saying right now. I'm saying that if they work with him well by WM it could work and maybe not this WM but next year's WM. He's not ready for the title. Hell, if they really wanted to build up Ali for a surprise W against Kofu than why not Kofi do the babyface proper thing and give Ali a title match Ali almost beats him and it is a little too close of comfort for Kofi but he laughs it off. Ali teases Kofi about almost beating him but holds the title in his face bragging about it. This doesn't even have to result in Ali winning the title, make this a TV feud and you can have Kofi drop the title to someone. Once Kofi drops the title, you have Ali pick up that win and Kofi now feeling down and out attacks him in frustration
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 15, 2019 21:51:23 GMT -5
Yeah, go for someone else at the Next PPV that beat him... basically a 6 month reign where he was pretty damned over for the majority is nothing to be ashamed of... and he's still part of the New Day so I doubt they'll have him drop down the card again.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Sept 15, 2019 21:52:23 GMT -5
The damn win against Orton felt necessary but also didn’t have the “umph” it should have. I agree. I mean I’m scared it’s gonna be Brock but I hope they gamble with someone like Andrade.
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