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Post by SirLucas on Sept 15, 2019 21:43:55 GMT -5
Wyatt destroys Seth, but it's a DQ finish.
1. The Fiend continues to look dominant without having to be champ so soon. 2. Seth keeps his reign a big longer. 3. It sets up a rematch at Survivor Series.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 21:44:31 GMT -5
I have a very honest question. Bray wins the title, then what? The strength of the character is that we so rarely see him. The more we see him, the less impact he has, that's not his fault, it's just how wrestling always works. Bray has only ever done the taped promos so he's never really "there". I don't see much difference in this between what we've had for years with Lesnar: a rarely seen champion with a mouthpiece that you can't really feud with. What I'm really saying is I'm not sold on the Fiend as champion as pretty much everyone else is. I agree that that's an issue, but losing right now would be a bigger one; really the Fiend shouldn't be challenging for the title until at least January or so, because it kind of puts a ticking clock on when you have to have him lose, but with the match made, you pretty much have no choice but to give it to him.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Sept 15, 2019 21:45:42 GMT -5
I have a very honest question. Bray wins the title, then what? The strength of the character is that we so rarely see him. The more we see him, the less impact he has, that's not his fault, it's just how wrestling always works. Bray has only ever done the taped promos so he's never really "there". I don't see much difference in this between what we've had for years with Lesnar: a rarely seen champion with a mouthpiece that you can't really feud with. What I'm really saying is I'm not sold on the Fiend as champion as pretty much everyone else is. Have Bray come out on RAW without the title and beat a jobber. Later in the night The Fiend shows up. Firefly Fun House to further feuds Bray Wyatt ( without title) squashes every other week The Fiend once or twice a month.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Sept 15, 2019 21:45:45 GMT -5
The second Seth won his match, I thought to myself “aaaaand now he’s losing it to the Fiend”.
I absolutely agree. Seth has to lose.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2019 21:46:33 GMT -5
Wyatt destroys Seth, but it's a DQ finish. 1. The Fiend continues to look dominant without having to be champ so soon. 2. Seth keeps his reign a big longer. 3. It sets up a rematch at Survivor Series. That sounds absolutely awful. WWE really needs to get out of their habit of constant DQs to drag feuds out and it'd be the third PPV in a row where one of the top belts gets tied up in a non-finish to push the next PPV. Fourth if you count Brock cashing in.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Sept 15, 2019 21:46:43 GMT -5
Well the Funhouse looked like a cheap wall unlike the normal set so I expect Seth will burn it down at some point. Bray with the charred corpses of Ramblin' Rabbit and Huskus in hand as he cries until he morphs into the Fiend. Where that would leave Funhouse Bray is a question since the Funhouse is supposed to be a safe place. Plus they got Fiend/Taker to do in November. That kills off the "good side", which leaves only the monster in play. Yeah. I'm into it.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Sept 15, 2019 21:48:09 GMT -5
Wyatt destroys Seth, but it's a DQ finish. 1. The Fiend continues to look dominant without having to be champ so soon. 2. Seth keeps his reign a big longer. 3. It sets up a rematch at Survivor Series. That sounds absolutely awful. WWE really needs to get out of their habit of constant DQs to drag feuds out and it'd be the third PPV in a row where one of the top belts gets tied up in a non-finish to push the next PPV. Fourth if you count Brock cashing in. And that’s why if I was a betting man, I’d argue that’s whats going to happen. That dragging-the-rivalry thing out is getting old but I’m guessing it’s a symptom of all the network specials.
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Post by SirLucas on Sept 15, 2019 21:48:22 GMT -5
If Seth loses this soon, what was the point of having him beat Brock twice in a row?
Then again, the live crowd was dead as shit for Seth's victory tonight.
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Post by Shark on Sept 15, 2019 21:49:16 GMT -5
I have a very honest question. Bray wins the title, then what? The strength of the character is that we so rarely see him. The more we see him, the less impact he has, that's not his fault, it's just how wrestling always works. Bray has only ever done the taped promos so he's never really "there". I don't see much difference in this between what we've had for years with Lesnar: a rarely seen champion with a mouthpiece that you can't really feud with. What I'm really saying is I'm not sold on the Fiend as champion as pretty much everyone else is. I agree that that's an issue, but losing right now would be a bigger one; really the Fiend shouldn't be challenging for the title until at least January or so, because it kind of puts a ticking clock on when you have to have him lose, but with the match made, you pretty much have no choice but to give it to him. It's a rare time where WWE's actually striking while the iron is hot, but it may not end up working out in the long run. I won't be surprised to see the match end with a non finish. The Fiend in that champion vs champion match at Survivor Series especially since he'd in theory face Kofi and Kofi would have to lose that and Kofi is on shaky ground as it is. After that, then The Fiend can win it and then lose it at Mania to I don't know who.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 15, 2019 21:50:44 GMT -5
If Seth loses this soon, what was the point of having him beat Brock twice in a row? Then again, the live crowd was dead as shit for Seth's victory tonight. What was the point of having Roman beat Taker and "retire him" only for him to lose PPV matches for the next 6 months
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 15, 2019 21:52:52 GMT -5
I have a very honest question. Bray wins the title, then what? The strength of the character is that we so rarely see him. The more we see him, the less impact he has, that's not his fault, it's just how wrestling always works. Bray has only ever done the taped promos so he's never really "there". I don't see much difference in this between what we've had for years with Lesnar: a rarely seen champion with a mouthpiece that you can't really feud with. What I'm really saying is I'm not sold on the Fiend as champion as pretty much everyone else is. You're saying that like we saw certain people who were Universal Champion every week, LOL ;-)
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Sept 15, 2019 21:52:52 GMT -5
Somehow I can see Bray/Seth at HITC ending in a no contest. Thanks to The Demon's return?
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 15, 2019 21:53:58 GMT -5
This is going to be the problem with the Fiend... eventually he has to lose... and sticking him in a title match THIS early kinda doesn't help him either as his other issue is going to be overexposure which well he needs to show up more often as the champion... Undertaker lost eventually in his heyday. Again does anyone else remember how often we saw Brock? Uni Title outside of Seth = Part Time Championship.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 15, 2019 21:54:07 GMT -5
I agree that that's an issue, but losing right now would be a bigger one; really the Fiend shouldn't be challenging for the title until at least January or so, because it kind of puts a ticking clock on when you have to have him lose, but with the match made, you pretty much have no choice but to give it to him. It's a rare time where WWE's actually striking while the iron is hot, but it may not end up working out in the long run. I won't be surprised to see the match end with a non finish. The Fiend in that champion vs champion match at Survivor Series especially since he'd in theory face Kofi and Kofi would have to lose that and Kofi is on shaky ground as it is. After that, then The Fiend can win it and then lose it at Mania to I don't know who. Kingston probably could afford to lose that Survivor Series match if it happens. He’s had a strong run, it’s fizzling out a bit, but I don’t think it’d hurt him that much. As for Wyatt’s WrestleMania challenger, it lines up perfectly for Balor to return at the Rumble, win it and summon the demon paint to have this visual epic of Fiend v Demon at WrestleMania. Optimistic to a fault? Sure. But we’re talking about Bray f***ing Wyatt having a successful reboot after all he’s been through. It’s not as impossible as you might think.
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 15, 2019 21:56:02 GMT -5
Well the Funhouse looked like a cheap wall unlike the normal set so I expect Seth will burn it down at some point. Bray with the charred corpses of Ramblin' Rabbit and Huskus in hand as he cries until he morphs into the Fiend. Where that would leave Funhouse Bray is a question since the Funhouse is supposed to be a safe place. Plus they got Fiend/Taker to do in November. That kills off the "good side", which leaves only the monster in play. Yeah. I'm into it. Again that could work. But both are over, I can't see one persona be killed off, so to say. FFH Bray is like his own Paul Bearer to his Undertaker when he's the Fiend. The goofy yet creepy mouthpiece. But...if that happened, they had better have Abby the Witch say "not again!" Think about it.
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Post by Shark on Sept 15, 2019 21:58:14 GMT -5
It's a rare time where WWE's actually striking while the iron is hot, but it may not end up working out in the long run. I won't be surprised to see the match end with a non finish. The Fiend in that champion vs champion match at Survivor Series especially since he'd in theory face Kofi and Kofi would have to lose that and Kofi is on shaky ground as it is. After that, then The Fiend can win it and then lose it at Mania to I don't know who. Kingston probably could afford to lose that Survivor Series match if it happens. He’s had a strong run, it’s fizzling out a bit, but I don’t think it’d hurt him that much. As for Wyatt’s WrestleMania challenger, it lines up perfectly for Balor to return at the Rumble, win it and summon the demon paint to have this visual epic of Fiend v Demon at WrestleMania. Optimistic to a fault? Sure. But we’re talking about Bray f***ing Wyatt having a successful reboot after all he’s been through. It’s not as impossible as you might think. Balor honestly is the only one I can think of. They've done everyone else. The guy is still way over despite his booking, he's not getting any younger. It's a great spectacle to go with for Mania. I don't know that he'll win the Rumble. I feel like that's earmarked for Roman, but Balor is the only real option as far as someone that might get fans real interested.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 15, 2019 21:58:55 GMT -5
This is going to be the problem with the Fiend... eventually he has to lose... and sticking him in a title match THIS early kinda doesn't help him either as his other issue is going to be overexposure which well he needs to show up more often as the champion... Undertaker lost eventually in his heyday. Again does anyone else remember how often we saw Brock? Uni Title outside of Seth = Part Time Championship. Yeah... and it was awful when we didn't see Brock. The Universal Title especially needs to be around and defended cause right now it doesn't really mean anything.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 15, 2019 22:05:27 GMT -5
As far as Vince is concerned, everybody can lose always, he's planning ahead for the next seven yeas for these guys, apparently...
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Post by kingoftheindies on Sept 15, 2019 22:08:39 GMT -5
I have a very honest question. Bray wins the title, then what? The strength of the character is that we so rarely see him. The more we see him, the less impact he has, that's not his fault, it's just how wrestling always works. Bray has only ever done the taped promos so he's never really "there". I don't see much difference in this between what we've had for years with Lesnar: a rarely seen champion with a mouthpiece that you can't really feud with. What I'm really saying is I'm not sold on the Fiend as champion as pretty much everyone else is. A way around it I've been thinking of is just have the Fiend destroy Seth, but he walks away, have the message be that Bray knows he can take the title at any time, but he's not done having fun with Seth. Then you can extend the feud a bit.
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Post by Sparkybob on Sept 15, 2019 22:30:18 GMT -5
It's a rare time where WWE's actually striking while the iron is hot, but it may not end up working out in the long run. I won't be surprised to see the match end with a non finish. The Fiend in that champion vs champion match at Survivor Series especially since he'd in theory face Kofi and Kofi would have to lose that and Kofi is on shaky ground as it is. After that, then The Fiend can win it and then lose it at Mania to I don't know who. Kingston probably could afford to lose that Survivor Series match if it happens. He’s had a strong run, it’s fizzling out a bit, but I don’t think it’d hurt him that much. As for Wyatt’s WrestleMania challenger, it lines up perfectly for Balor to return at the Rumble, win it and summon the demon paint to have this visual epic of Fiend v Demon at WrestleMania. Optimistic to a fault? Sure. But we’re talking about Bray f***ing Wyatt having a successful reboot after all he’s been through. It’s not as impossible as you might think. Well my issue with my planning ahead so much is Bray could conceivably just put up stinkers in his title match the next couple of months where they have to have drop the title asap. I think in case of Bray you have to take it week by week until he can show he is a main event talent.
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