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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 1:48:27 GMT -5
Mercer would've just changed MJF's heart but the other Phantom Thieves are busy beating up stick figures, overseeing a church, and serving in the Special Forces.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Sept 19, 2019 3:40:17 GMT -5
MJF makes getting heat look way too easy.
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 19, 2019 5:38:56 GMT -5
Agreed that MJF's biggest skill is that he takes what would feel so cheap coming from almost any other heel and just pulls it off spectacularly. On BTE he decided to rag on Indianapolis by calling it a city of quitters, citing Andrew Luck and saying he retired because he "got a boo boo". Cheap heat? For sure! But, good God, does he do it with conviction!
I don't like holding wrestlers up to the "you have to be able to turn straw into gold" metric, since to me that's often inherently unfair and feels like a way of saying "find a way to make our shitty booking tolerable", but MJF is one of those guys who can take something dumb, cheap, etc. and is fully capable of breathing life into it just through his own personal abilities as a performer, from inflection to expression and so forth. Guy's a heel prodigy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 5:43:09 GMT -5
Oh wow, just seen some of the twitter responses he's had. Haha, never thought I'd see people getting so worked in 2019. Amazing.
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Post by MrElijah on Sept 19, 2019 7:00:36 GMT -5
The only D&D I know is the arcade games
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Post by Dub H on Sept 19, 2019 7:30:09 GMT -5
Oh wow, just seen some of the twitter responses he's had. Haha, never thought I'd see people getting so worked in 2019. Amazing. I think if anyone know how to roleplay along with the bit is DnD players
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Post by Deputy Muscle on Sept 19, 2019 11:54:23 GMT -5
MJF makes getting heat look way too easy. He went fishing for marks and has reeled in a ton of them!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2019 12:12:47 GMT -5
I honestly can't see MJF ever not being a heel at this point. I feel like it'd ruin him, like if they tried to turn Heenan face or something. I kind of feel slightly bad for the dude if he isn't at least somewhat of a dickhead in real life. Because seriously. Dude has to 24/7 heel for the rest of his LIFE, in-ring and out. Pretty much everyone, including other wrestlers, says that he's actually a really unlikeable guy even out of character. He actually is a total asshole, or he's somehow convinced every other wrestler to play along.
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Post by honsou on Sept 19, 2019 12:20:54 GMT -5
It really works in this case because MJF looks like that guy in high school that looked down upon all the nerds. He didn't go on a full rant either, it was just a simple statement that implied "I got to look like this because I don't waste my time in my parents basement" but if he actually said that no one would have cared. He's a god damn genius
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Post by Chainsaw on Sept 19, 2019 14:06:09 GMT -5
22 k upvotes what a bunh of Marks I knew Mercer would chime in eventually. I would love MJF to be on a DnD Shkw but being in the MJF character all the time. If he shows up on Critical Role to shit on the whole thing, tries playing to show how easy it is, keeps rolling 1s and just flips out because he keeps getting killed, it will be worth all of the negative shit that the Internet generates on a daily basis.
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Post by Dragonfly on Sept 19, 2019 14:12:20 GMT -5
Every person in my wife's two RP groups had an opinion on this. Not a single one (save for her) knew who MJF was.
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Post by salz4life on Sept 19, 2019 14:33:09 GMT -5
MJF is WCW Jericho, but I really think he might be better. They should put some young kid they want to eventually get over as a face as a follower of his. MJF treats him like dirt for awhile and eventually the guy can't take it anymore and there you go. Not right away, but eventually....
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 19, 2019 14:46:16 GMT -5
MJF is WCW Jericho, but I really think he might be better. They should put some young kid they want to eventually get over as a face as a follower of his. MJF treats him like dirt for awhile and eventually the guy can't take it anymore and there you go. Not right away, but eventually.... He isn't as original as WCW Jericho. MJF is like one of those 90s bands that ripped off a whole bunch of 60s and 70s shit but had great hooks so nobody cared it was unoriginal. So I guess MJF is the first two Oasis albums?
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Post by Dub H on Sept 19, 2019 14:50:55 GMT -5
MJF is WCW Jericho, but I really think he might be better. They should put some young kid they want to eventually get over as a face as a follower of his. MJF treats him like dirt for awhile and eventually the guy can't take it anymore and there you go. Not right away, but eventually.... He isn't as original as WCW Jericho. MJF is like one of those 90s bands that ripped off a whole bunch of 60s and 70s shit but had great hooks so nobody cared it was unoriginal. So I guess MJF is the first two Oasis albums? Of course ,Jericho did it first.
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Post by Cyno on Sept 19, 2019 14:53:50 GMT -5
MJF is a throwback and a damned good one, too.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 19, 2019 14:56:23 GMT -5
So many people started tags "I do Play DND" with photos of then being sexy/hot/normal/etc. And supporting communities.
Holy heel,did MJF just put over the DnD community?What a perfect Heel.
Not gonna lie I really want Cutler to win now. I GOT f***ING WORKED
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 19, 2019 16:02:35 GMT -5
I kind of feel slightly bad for the dude if he isn't at least somewhat of a dickhead in real life. Because seriously. Dude has to 24/7 heel for the rest of his LIFE, in-ring and out. Pretty much everyone, including other wrestlers, says that he's actually a really unlikeable guy even out of character. He actually is a total asshole, or he's somehow convinced every other wrestler to play along. The longer he manages to keep going without breaking the act, I wonder if people are going to shift from assuming it's entirely an act to thinking maybe a part of the real dude might just be that way. We'll see, I guess. The "How long can he keep it up?" aspect is actually interesting in its own way.
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Post by jking1979 on Sept 19, 2019 18:52:07 GMT -5
I miss the real bad guys. I could see Stan Hansen running over MJF with a clothesline and then spitting tobacco juice all over him.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 19, 2019 20:30:35 GMT -5
I miss the real bad guys. I could see Stan Hansen running over MJF with a clothesline and then spitting tobacco juice all over him. Cocky superior heels have existed forever. This gimmick would fit in fine during Hansen's time (with a few tweaks obviously)
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Post by honsou on Sept 19, 2019 20:41:54 GMT -5
I miss the real bad guys. I could see Stan Hansen running over MJF with a clothesline and then spitting tobacco juice all over him. I mean I guess that's the sort of reaction hes looking for. You just want to see him get obliterated by a tough dude
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