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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 7:58:35 GMT -5
I'm struggling to think of one more, "Erm... The... What?" than Rob Van Dam and Ricardo Rodriguez.
Ric Flair and AJ Styles also really, really didn't work. They're just too different of performers to make sense together.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Oct 28, 2019 8:05:01 GMT -5
Do Survivor Series teams count? If so, you get things like Miss Elizabeth managing Hillbilly Jim and Paul Bearer managing The Steiners.
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Post by Hypnosis on Oct 28, 2019 8:55:59 GMT -5
Cesaro and Heyman, because Heyman just kept screeching about Lesnar ending Taker's streak anytime they had a promo segment, and Cesaro should have turned face by that point.
DiBiase Jr. and Maryse. They had little chemistry, and Jr. didn't have his dad's personality.
Alberto Del Rio and Zeb Colter.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Oct 28, 2019 9:03:47 GMT -5
Shawn and Jose Lothario. I get the history and connection, but Shawn coming out doing his whole shtick and Jose walking behind him all old and such. Just looks kinda cringey and shit.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Oct 28, 2019 9:05:58 GMT -5
Drake Maverick and AOP is up there, especially as a significant downgrade from the perfect combo of AOP and Paul Ellering
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Post by bob on Oct 28, 2019 9:25:25 GMT -5
Rob Van Dam and Ricardo Rodriguez
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Oct 28, 2019 9:25:39 GMT -5
I always felt like Slick didn't fit with 80% of the guys he managed.
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Post by CMWaters on Oct 28, 2019 9:31:41 GMT -5
Ted DiBiase and most of the guys he managed in the Million Dollar Corporation.
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Post by BorneAgain on Oct 28, 2019 9:39:14 GMT -5
Demolition with Luscious Johnny V is such a mismatch that I forget it happened and assume Fuji was always with them until reminded otherwise.
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Post by James Fabiano on Oct 28, 2019 9:39:45 GMT -5
Slick and Rick Martel. Sure it was the "he's a heel now, get it?" combo, but as we later saw Martel didn't need a manager to come off like an obnoxious prick. Demolition and Johnny...oh crap, someone posted that as I was typing... The Baron and Powers of Pain. Tito being in their corner at first made sense as he brought them in to avenge Martel against Demolition. But Raschke did NOTHING. Did he even cut promos with them at all? Coach and anybody. Mr. Perfect didn't need a manager if neither Heenan nor Genius would be available. And oddly enough, Coach's other men, the Beverly Brothers, would get the Genius as a manager anyway! (makes one wonder, if Perfect wasn't injured, would he too go back to having the Genius in his corner?) Mike Awesome didn't need Judge Jeff Jones. Nineties wrestling didn't need Judge Jeff Jones. Anyone ECW threw together as a Flock post-BWO leaving Raven. Oliver Humperdink and anybody in the WWF. He just seemed to be there to be the punchline when someone fired/rejected heel managers. British Bulldogs and Captain Lou Albano? (I guess it makes sense with Albano's history managing tag champions, but....) The very brief period when they did that story where Debra was forced to be Rock's manager. Sandman and Missy Hyatt was okay, but it just seemed like an excuse to get another sexy female manager to replace Woman. Missy and the Steiners made less sense when Eddie Gilbert wasn't around WCW or being associated with them anymore. Undertaker and Brother Love were a weird pairing, and Paul Bearer fit in more obviously. Jim Cornette and the Dynamic Dudes..yes, all storyline, but... Sid Justice and Harvey Whippleman...low midcard manager suddenly thrust into the Mania 8 main event, huh? I wonder if they could have just had Sid form an alliance with the Flair camp and have Mr. Perfect as a manager too? They were teaming against Hogan and Piper anyway. For that matter, Warlord and Harvey too after Slick left. (didn't help that he was still dressed in the 1940s lackey outfit that fit his alliance with Big Bully Busick) How about....HULK HOGAN AND JIMMY HART? I know it since became accepted that Jimmy would be in the Hogan Clique to this day, but Hogan needed a manager? Really? I mean, yeah, there's the storyline leading up to Mania 9, but that seemed rushed and tacked on.
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Post by James Fabiano on Oct 28, 2019 13:20:26 GMT -5
I'm struggling to think of one more, "Erm... The... What?" than Rob Van Dam and Ricardo Rodriguez. I have this feeling that they wanted to recreate RVD and Fonzie, and were like, "Ricardo has Latino blood too, it'll work!"
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2019 13:24:01 GMT -5
I'm struggling to think of one more, "Erm... The... What?" than Rob Van Dam and Ricardo Rodriguez. I have this feeling that they wanted to recreate RVD and Fonzie, and were like, "Ricardo has Latino blood too, it'll work!" The explanation I've heard was that it was supposed to be Mysterio and then at the very last minute they went, "Uh, no, RVD instead!" while changing nothing else.
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Post by CubsFan71 on Oct 28, 2019 13:37:59 GMT -5
Hiro Matsuda with the Horsemen. I don’t know who’s idea that was, but that was just terrible and should never even been out on the table as an idea
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Post by jason1980s on Oct 28, 2019 14:02:34 GMT -5
Shawn and Jose Lothario. I get the history and connection, but Shawn coming out doing his whole shtick and Jose walking behind him all old and such. Just looks kinda cringey and shit. Jose should have been short lived as a manager or maybe only on very special appearances. I think Vince McMahon emotionally invested so much into Shawn Michaels and "the boyhood dream" that he had to have Jose on the shows. Demolition with Luscious Johnny V is such a mismatch that I forget it happened and assume Fuji was always with them until reminded otherwise. I think the original intent wasn't for Demolition to be this mega team that destroyed all face opponents. I don't think they were ever intended to be as over or last as long as they did. I don't even think they were so much created to be a Road Warriors type of team but rather two guys Johnny V. found in the clubs of New York and wanted to bring them to be wrestlers. Their original makeup especially was so silly compared to what it would become. Once Smash 2 came into the fold the dynamic changed, they became more aggressive/ruthless and almost evil so a Mr. Fuji pairing was more logical. Johnny for the original pairing was more logical than Fuji would have been.
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Post by grungesmurf on Oct 28, 2019 14:15:00 GMT -5
Slick and Rick Martel. Sure it was the "he's a heel now, get it?" combo, but as we later saw Martel didn't need a manager to come off like an obnoxious prick. Demolition and Johnny...oh crap, someone posted that as I was typing... The Baron and Powers of Pain. Tito being in their corner at first made sense as he brought them in to avenge Martel against Demolition. But Raschke did NOTHING. Did he even cut promos with them at all? Coach and anybody. Mr. Perfect didn't need a manager if neither Heenan nor Genius would be available. And oddly enough, Coach's other men, the Beverly Brothers, would get the Genius as a manager anyway! (makes one wonder, if Perfect wasn't injured, would he too go back to having the Genius in his corner?) Mike Awesome didn't need Judge Jeff Jones. Nineties wrestling didn't need Judge Jeff Jones. Anyone ECW threw together as a Flock post-BWO leaving Raven. Oliver Humperdink and anybody in the WWF. He just seemed to be there to be the punchline when someone fired/rejected heel managers. British Bulldogs and Captain Lou Albano? (I guess it makes sense with Albano's history managing tag champions, but....) The very brief period when they did that story where Debra was forced to be Rock's manager. Sandman and Missy Hyatt was okay, but it just seemed like an excuse to get another sexy female manager to replace Woman. Missy and the Steiners made less sense when Eddie Gilbert wasn't around WCW or being associated with them anymore. Undertaker and Brother Love were a weird pairing, and Paul Bearer fit in more obviously. Jim Cornette and the Dynamic Dudes..yes, all storyline, but... Sid Justice and Harvey Whippleman...low midcard manager suddenly thrust into the Mania 8 main event, huh? I wonder if they could have just had Sid form an alliance with the Flair camp and have Mr. Perfect as a manager too? They were teaming against Hogan and Piper anyway. For that matter, Warlord and Harvey too after Slick left. (didn't help that he was still dressed in the 1940s lackey outfit that fit his alliance with Big Bully Busick) How about....HULK HOGAN AND JIMMY HART? I know it since became accepted that Jimmy would be in the Hogan Clique to this day, but Hogan needed a manager? Really? I mean, yeah, there's the storyline leading up to Mania 9, but that seemed rushed and tacked on. Hey hey I used to work with Jeff Jones he was a good dude. Ok maybe not a good manager in wrestling but still a good dude
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Post by Joe Neglia on Oct 28, 2019 14:28:18 GMT -5
Ernie Ladd managing the Wild Samoans.
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Post by karl100589 on Oct 28, 2019 14:30:07 GMT -5
Rico managing Three Minute Warning comes to mind.
Also I didn't see the point of Stacy Kiebler as The Dutchess of Dudleyville. Not that 12 year old me was complaining.
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Post by James Fabiano on Oct 28, 2019 14:45:52 GMT -5
Slick and Rick Martel. Sure it was the "he's a heel now, get it?" combo, but as we later saw Martel didn't need a manager to come off like an obnoxious prick. Demolition and Johnny...oh crap, someone posted that as I was typing... The Baron and Powers of Pain. Tito being in their corner at first made sense as he brought them in to avenge Martel against Demolition. But Raschke did NOTHING. Did he even cut promos with them at all? Coach and anybody. Mr. Perfect didn't need a manager if neither Heenan nor Genius would be available. And oddly enough, Coach's other men, the Beverly Brothers, would get the Genius as a manager anyway! (makes one wonder, if Perfect wasn't injured, would he too go back to having the Genius in his corner?) Mike Awesome didn't need Judge Jeff Jones. Nineties wrestling didn't need Judge Jeff Jones. Anyone ECW threw together as a Flock post-BWO leaving Raven. Oliver Humperdink and anybody in the WWF. He just seemed to be there to be the punchline when someone fired/rejected heel managers. British Bulldogs and Captain Lou Albano? (I guess it makes sense with Albano's history managing tag champions, but....) The very brief period when they did that story where Debra was forced to be Rock's manager. Sandman and Missy Hyatt was okay, but it just seemed like an excuse to get another sexy female manager to replace Woman. Missy and the Steiners made less sense when Eddie Gilbert wasn't around WCW or being associated with them anymore. Undertaker and Brother Love were a weird pairing, and Paul Bearer fit in more obviously. Jim Cornette and the Dynamic Dudes..yes, all storyline, but... Sid Justice and Harvey Whippleman...low midcard manager suddenly thrust into the Mania 8 main event, huh? I wonder if they could have just had Sid form an alliance with the Flair camp and have Mr. Perfect as a manager too? They were teaming against Hogan and Piper anyway. For that matter, Warlord and Harvey too after Slick left. (didn't help that he was still dressed in the 1940s lackey outfit that fit his alliance with Big Bully Busick) How about....HULK HOGAN AND JIMMY HART? I know it since became accepted that Jimmy would be in the Hogan Clique to this day, but Hogan needed a manager? Really? I mean, yeah, there's the storyline leading up to Mania 9, but that seemed rushed and tacked on. Hey hey I used to work with Jeff Jones he was a good dude. Ok maybe not a good manager in wrestling but still a good dude Maybe. Just the wrong era for the character.
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Post by greyfmdan on Oct 28, 2019 23:26:14 GMT -5
Undertaker and Brother Love were a weird pairing, and Paul Bearer fit in more obviously. Agreed, though I’ve always been amused by Bro. Love yelling out, “Punish him! Pun-nish hee-im!” while Taker squashes a jobber.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 28, 2019 23:51:44 GMT -5
Alberto Del Rio and Zeb Colter, was the first to come to mind...
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