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Post by hbkid718 on Nov 24, 2019 23:59:20 GMT -5
Now for my favourite part... Scoring this complicated-ass show for the points rankings. (F***s sake, why did they have to do a battle royal too?) Sorry. I just have to go through 32 years of results & records and add this year's results.
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Post by agent817 on Nov 25, 2019 0:14:43 GMT -5
Okay, I did have a gripe about the 15-man Survivor Series match. So Braun got counted out. It appears that getting countered out cause some people to get eliminated. But what annoyed me was that Roman Reigns was outside of the ring while Keith Lee and Seth Rollins were going at it. So the referee didn't bother counting him out? I know I shouldn't be questioning this considering the logic of the wrestling world, but still.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 0:16:38 GMT -5
Okay, I did have a gripe about the 15-man Survivor Series match. So Braun got counted out. It appears that getting countered out cause some people to get eliminated. But what annoyed me was that Roman Reigns was outside of the ring while Keith Lee and Seth Rollins were going at it. So the referee didn't bother counting him out? I know I shouldn't be questioning this considering the logic of the wrestling world, but still. Wait....somebody got counted out...IN A TRIPLE THREAT MATCH, A MATCH THAT DOESN'T HAVE COUNTOUTS?! Shit, didn't Braun take a long nap on the floor last year after being put through a table with no count out?
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Post by eJm on Nov 25, 2019 0:18:37 GMT -5
Okay, I did have a gripe about the 15-man Survivor Series match. So Braun got counted out. It appears that getting countered out cause some people to get eliminated. But what annoyed me was that Roman Reigns was outside of the ring while Keith Lee and Seth Rollins were going at it. So the referee didn't bother counting him out? I know I shouldn't be questioning this considering the logic of the wrestling world, but still. I think, and this is just me spitballing, it hit a point where it was a triple threat properly so with how they usually are, it would be impossible for the Ref to count Reigns out as well as keep up with Seth and Keith in the ring. Or I could just use the old chestnut of βRefereeβs discressionβ.
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Post by agent817 on Nov 25, 2019 0:21:22 GMT -5
Okay, I did have a gripe about the 15-man Survivor Series match. So Braun got counted out. It appears that getting countered out cause some people to get eliminated. But what annoyed me was that Roman Reigns was outside of the ring while Keith Lee and Seth Rollins were going at it. So the referee didn't bother counting him out? I know I shouldn't be questioning this considering the logic of the wrestling world, but still. I think, and this is just me spitballing, it hit a point where it was a triple threat properly so with how they usually are, it would be impossible for the Ref to count Reigns out as well as keep up with Seth and Keith in the ring. Or I could just use the old chestnut of βRefereeβs discressionβ. But it was also elimination rules. Keep that in mind.
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Post by eJm on Nov 25, 2019 0:22:30 GMT -5
I think, and this is just me spitballing, it hit a point where it was a triple threat properly so with how they usually are, it would be impossible for the Ref to count Reigns out as well as keep up with Seth and Keith in the ring. Or I could just use the old chestnut of βRefereeβs discressionβ. But it was also elimination rules. Keep that in mind. Also very true. Then my answer is: π€·π»ββοΈ
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Post by Hurbster on Nov 25, 2019 7:01:13 GMT -5
Loved the show but Corey Graves needs to go away.
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Post by hbkid718 on Nov 25, 2019 11:09:37 GMT -5
Okay, I did have a gripe about the 15-man Survivor Series match. So Braun got counted out. It appears that getting countered out cause some people to get eliminated. But what annoyed me was that Roman Reigns was outside of the ring while Keith Lee and Seth Rollins were going at it. So the referee didn't bother counting him out? I know I shouldn't be questioning this considering the logic of the wrestling world, but still. They said you get eliminated by pinfall, submission, Count Out, or Disqualification, which is normal for Elimination Matches. In a normal Triple Threat, there are no Count Outs or Disqualifications, but I guess since this was an Elimination Match, they allowed Count Outs & Disqualifications.
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Post by agent817 on Nov 25, 2019 12:43:02 GMT -5
Okay, I did have a gripe about the 15-man Survivor Series match. So Braun got counted out. It appears that getting countered out cause some people to get eliminated. But what annoyed me was that Roman Reigns was outside of the ring while Keith Lee and Seth Rollins were going at it. So the referee didn't bother counting him out? I know I shouldn't be questioning this considering the logic of the wrestling world, but still. They said you get eliminated by pinfall, submission, Count Out, or Disqualification, which is normal for Elimination Matches. In a normal Triple Threat, there are no Count Outs or Disqualifications, but I guess since this was an Elimination Match, they allowed Count Outs & Disqualifications. I pointed that out earlier. Now that I think about it. Asuka wasn't officially eliminated either and then just left the match. She wasn't the legal woman at that point and then just took off.
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Post by hbkid718 on Nov 25, 2019 13:16:23 GMT -5
They said you get eliminated by pinfall, submission, Count Out, or Disqualification, which is normal for Elimination Matches. In a normal Triple Threat, there are no Count Outs or Disqualifications, but I guess since this was an Elimination Match, they allowed Count Outs & Disqualifications. I pointed that out earlier. Now that I think about it. Asuka wasn't officially eliminated either and then just left the match. She wasn't the legal woman at that point and then just took off. That has happened in the past too. I think it will be considered a Count Out, though she wasn't officially Counted Out.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Nov 25, 2019 13:37:58 GMT -5
There was a SurSer match that Ric Flair won because everyone else got counted out, I believe.
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Post by cosmo on Nov 25, 2019 14:03:21 GMT -5
There was a SurSer match that Ric Flair won because everyone else got counted out, I believe.
The '91 Survivor Series had Flair be the only survivor in his match when the ref DQ'd everybody after they all came in the ring to brawl. Flair only survived because he got thrown out of the ring just before the ref called for the bell.
The '94 Survivor Series, meanwhile, had Razor Ramon be the only survivor for his team after all five opponents got counted out at the same time when they tried to stop Diesel from chasing Shawn Michaels out of the building.
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Post by Shark on Nov 25, 2019 14:39:34 GMT -5
Okay, I did have a gripe about the 15-man Survivor Series match. So Braun got counted out. It appears that getting countered out cause some people to get eliminated. But what annoyed me was that Roman Reigns was outside of the ring while Keith Lee and Seth Rollins were going at it. So the referee didn't bother counting him out? I know I shouldn't be questioning this considering the logic of the wrestling world, but still. I think, and this is just me spitballing, it hit a point where it was a triple threat properly so with how they usually are, it would be impossible for the Ref to count Reigns out as well as keep up with Seth and Keith in the ring. Or I could just use the old chestnut of βRefereeβs discressionβ. When Braun was counted out, it wasn't just him out there. It was Keith and Drew were out there too so they all were being counted out. The part I bolded is also key. It's only one ref out there, it's arguably more important to keep track of what's happening in the ring than what's happening outside. e: also just watched a WON upload on youtube and Bryan and Vinny made a good point that Rollins is the new Roman Reigns and given this was in Chicago, if ever there was a time for Roman to get the reaction he used to get for winning, it was after he pinned Keith, but while there were some boos, it was mostly a positive reaction. I think it helped that the sequence between him and Keith was so good.
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Post by Sam Punk on Nov 25, 2019 19:10:51 GMT -5
Loved the show but Corey Graves needs to go away. True that
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Post by Chiral on Nov 25, 2019 22:18:28 GMT -5
The ref's like "wow Charlotte what happened with that green mist? Well anyways bye"
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Post by Steveweiser on Nov 29, 2019 2:56:27 GMT -5
Big Dave Ratings
Tag Team Battle Royal: *1/2 Rush/Kalisto/Tozawa: **1/2 Tag Team Triple Threat: *** Women's Survivor Series Match: **3/4 Styles/Strong/Nakamura: ***1/2 Cole/Dunne: ****1/4 Wyatt/Bryan: ***1/2 Men's Survivor Series Match: ****1/4 Lesnar/Mysterio: **1/2 Bayley/Lynch/Baszler: **
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 29, 2019 2:57:54 GMT -5
Oof at the main event score.
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Post by hbkid718 on Dec 5, 2019 21:52:52 GMT -5
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