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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Nov 23, 2019 21:41:38 GMT -5
Ok, this may be hyperbole since it just happened. But that finish is on a par with Foley going off the top of the cell with moments that made me think âholy shit, he might be crippledâ. Without taking away from the insane risk Cole took at all, one of the replays showed just how carefully Ciampa was setting everything up, making sure he had Cole held tight and looking over his shoulder on the way down. It was still way too bonkers to do, but Cole at least had Ciampa doing everything he could to help him take it as safely as possible. Foley just went for it. It makes me cringe to this day, especially when I see his state these days.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 23, 2019 21:42:18 GMT -5
Ok, this may be hyperbole since it just happened. But that finish is on a par with Foley going off the top of the cell with moments that made me think âholy shit, he might be crippledâ. Na no hyperbole, I legit thought one of them wasn't walking away from that Ciampa is still taking a bump after he just had neck surgery and Cole, Jesus my guy.
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Post by MrElijah on Nov 23, 2019 21:45:36 GMT -5
So Britt Baker is a widow now, right? Cody: Here lies Adam Cole. He never scored. Britt: HEY!! Samoa Joe: f*** that guy. Seth: Greatest ROH World Champion, my ass! Jay Lethal: Seriously.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Nov 23, 2019 21:46:07 GMT -5
Why does nobody just stomp Matt Riddleâs toes for like ten minutes?
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Nov 23, 2019 21:49:23 GMT -5
Why does nobody just stomp Matt Riddleâs toes for like ten minutes? There was a bit during War Games where a UE dude had Keith Lee in a leglock and another UE dude was trying to pull Lee's hands off the ropes (which did't matter at all anyways) and I was like, "He should be trying to, like, take an eye out of Lee or something. He's helpless and there's no rules." Wrestlers just have a sense of fair play that we don't, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2019 21:56:07 GMT -5
Holy shit, I just realized the show ended before 10. Nice.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Nov 23, 2019 21:57:34 GMT -5
Holy shit, I just realized the show ended before 10. Nice. Didn't Summerslam end before or shortly after 10? I remember being shocked a big show ended promptly earlier this year, I'm hoping they're getting that back under control.
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Post by hbkid718 on Nov 23, 2019 22:00:42 GMT -5
Another amazing Takeover. I didnât see all of the Pre-Show, so I canât comment on Scott VS Garza. The Womenâs War Games Match had to be one of the best Takeover openers ever, so many cool moments, even if Stevie Wonder saw that turn from a mile away. The Triple Threat Match was fun. Riddle VS Balor was a great match. The main event was amazing. I have no idea how any of them will be able to compete tomorrow at Survivor Series. Here's my Complete History of TakeoverAnd here are the Facts & Stats for NXT Takeover: War Games III. - NXT Takeover: War Games III was the 1st Takeover in History to not have any Title Matches, the 1st Takeover of 2019 to not have any Title Matches, the 1st Takeover since War Games II on November 17, 2018 to not have a NXT North American or NXT Tag Team Championship Match, the 1st since Respect on October 7, 2015 to not have an NXT Championship Match, & the 1st ever Takeover to not have a Womenâs Championship Match, the 1st Takeover since War Games I on November 18, 2017 that Johnny Gargano did not wrestle on, ending the longest consecutive Takeover match streak for Men in History at 9 matches, which is 1 match short of Asuka & now Shayna Baszlerâs record of 10 straight Takeover matches for most in History - The 2 War Games Matches was the 13th & 14th 8-Person Tag Team Match of 2019, the 1st since Raw on November 11, the 1st & 2nd for NXT in 2019, & the 1st time there were 2 on the same show in 2019, the 3rd & 4th 8-Person Tag Team Match in Takeover History & the 1st since War Games II on November 17, 2018, & the 1st time there were 2 in Takeover History, the 6th & 7th Steel Cage Match of 2019, the 1st since Hell In A Cell on October 6, 2019, the 1st & 2nd for NXT in 2019, & the 1st time since Hell In A Cell on October 6, 2019 that there were 2 on the same show, the 4th & 5th Steel Cage Match in Takeover History, the 1st since War Games II on November 17, 2018, not counting the Cage Match that was part of the 2 Out of 3 Falls Match at Toronto on August 10, 2019 - Someone from the wrestlers that made their Takeover debut: Isaiah Scott, Angel Garza, Dakota Kai, Tegan Nox, Rhea Ripley, Kay Lee Ray, Damien Priest, Dominik Dijakovic, & Keith Lee was the 100th wrestler to compete at NXT Takeover - Isaiah Scott VS Angel Garza was the 1st ever Kickoff Match in Takeover History & both Scott & Garzaâs Takeover debut - Team Ripley VS Team Baszler was the 1st Womenâs Tag Team Match since Bayley & Charlotte Flair VS Dana Brooke & Emma at Takeover: Unstoppable on May 20, 2015, Dakota Kai, Tegan Nox, Rhea Ripley, & Kay Lee Rayâs Takeover debut, making it the 3rd year in a row that someone made their Takeover debut competing in a War Games Match, the 1st time since WALTER at New York on April 5, 2019 that a wrestler from NXT UK made their Takeover debut, Candice LeRaeâs 2nd Takeover in a row of 2019 & 1st War Games Match, Shayna Baszlerâs 10th Takeover in a row, tying her with Asuka, Finn Balor, Adam Cole, & Kyle OâReilly for 4th most Takeover Matches in History, & 1st War Games Match, tying her with Asuka for most consecutive Takeover Matches in Takeover History, & was the 1st Takeover that she did not compete for or defended the NXT Womenâs Championship, ending a streak of 9 straight Title Matches, which is the most in Takeover History, her 4th Takeover in a row of 2019, making her the only wrestler to compete at every Takeover of 2019, Bianca Belairâs 3rd Takeover & 1st since New York on April 5, 2019 & 1st War Games Match, Io Shiraiâs 4th Takeover in a row of 2019 & 1st War Games Match, the 2nd Takeover in a row that both Candice LeRae & Io Shirai wrestled each other, & Shayna Baslzer, Bianca Belair, & Io Shirai join Charlotte & Bayley, Baron Corbin & Rhyno, Finn Balor & Samoa Joe, Johnny Gargano & Tommaso Ciampa, Kyle OâReilly & Roderick Strong, & Ricochet & War Raiders as the only wrestlers to be both opponents & partners at a Takeover, the 1st Womenâs Match to open Takeover since Asuka VS Emma at Takeover London on December 5, 2015 & everyoneâs 1st ever Takeover opener, making Rhea Ripley, Tegan Nox, & Kay Lee Ray the 1st since Matt Riddle to make their Takeover debut competing in the opening match, & was Baszlerâs 1st loss at Takeover since she lost the NXT Womenâs Title to Kairi Sane at Takeover: Brooklyn 4 on August 18, 2018 - Pete Dunne VS Killian Dain VS Damien Priest was the 6th Triple Threat Match in Takeover History & 2nd Takeover in a row & the 29th Triple Threat Match of 2019, the 1st since Smackdown on November 22, & the 1st for NXT since October 23, Pete Dunneâs 6th Takeover & 2nd in a row in 2019, & his 2nd Triple Threat Match in a row, Killian Dainâs 4th Takeover & 1st since New Orleans on April 7, 2018, & 1st Triple Threat Match, & Damien Priestâs Takeover debut - Matt Riddle VS Finn Balor was Matt Riddleâs 5th Takeover in a row & 3rd in a row in 2019, & 2nd Takeover in a row that he wrestled in a regular 1-on-1 Match, Finn Balorâs 10th Takeover, tying him with Asuka, Shayna Baszler, Adam Cole, & Kyle OâReilly for 4th place for most Takeover Matches in History, his 1st Takeover since The End on June 8, 2016, tying him with Tyler Breeze for the 2nd longest gap between Takeover Matches at 17, & his 1st match overall since he lost to Bray Wyatt at SummerSlam on August 11. Team Ciampa VS The Undisputed ERA was Tommaso Ciampaâs 11th Takeover, which will put him in 3rd place after Johnny Gargano at 15 & Roderick Strong at 12, for most Takeover Matches in History, & his 1st since Phoenix on January 26, 2019, his 1st ever War Games Match, & the 1st time he is not in a Title Match since Chicago on June 16, 2018, Dominik Dijakovic & Keith Leeâs Takeover debut, making it the 3rd year in a row that someone made their Takeover debuts in a War Games Match, Kevin Owensâ 5th Takeover & 1st since Takeover: Brooklyn on August 22, 2015, giving him a gap of 20 Takeovers, which is the most in Takeover History, Adam Coleâs 9th Takeover & 4th in a row in 2019, but 10th match since he competed twice at New Orleans on April 7, 2018, which ties him with Asuka, Finn Balor, Shayna Baszler, & Kyle OâReilly for 4th most Takeover Matches in History, & 3rd War Games Match, Bobby Fishâs 6th Takeover & 3rd in a row in 2019, & 3rd War Games Match, Kyle OâReillyâs 10th Takeover, tying him with Asuka, Finn Balor, Shayna Baszler, & Adam Cole for 4th most Takeover Matches in History, & 3rd in a row in 2019, 3rd War Games Match, & the 1st time he didnât wrestle in a Tag Team Championship Match since War Games II on November 17, 2018, Roderick Strongâs 12th Takeover, which is the 2nd most in Takeover History after Johnny Gargano at 15, & 3rd in a row in 2019, & 3rd War Games Match, The Undisputed ERA were the only wrestlers to be in every War Games, the 1st Non-Title Match to main event Takeover since the War Games Match at War Games II on November 17, 2018, Adam Coleâs 4th Takeover main event in a row, adding to the list with Johnny Gargano, Samoa Joe, Shinsuke Nakamura, & Sami Zayn as the only wrestlers to compete in 4 consecutive main events, & 6th overall, putting him in 2nd place for most Takeover main events, Tommaso Ciampaâs 6th Takeover main event, tying him & Adam Cole for 2nd most Takeover main events & his 1st main event since Phoenix on January 26, 2019, Bobby Fish, Kyle OâReilly, & Roderick Strongâs 3rd Takeover main event & 1st since War Games II on November 17, 2018, Dominik Dijakovic & Keith Leeâs 1st Takeover main event making them the 1st wrestlers since War Raiders to make their Takeover debut competing in the main event, & was & Kevin Owensâ 4th Takeover main event & 1st since Brooklyn on August 22, 2015
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Post by hbkid718 on Nov 23, 2019 22:01:18 GMT -5
And at this rate, Team NXT will be The Forgotten Sons, Mansoor, & Kona Reeves.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Nov 23, 2019 22:07:50 GMT -5
Ok, this may be hyperbole since it just happened. But that finish is on a par with Foley going off the top of the cell with moments that made me think âholy shit, he might be crippledâ. Without taking away from the insane risk Cole took at all, one of the replays showed just how carefully Ciampa was setting everything up, making sure he had Cole held tight and looking over his shoulder on the way down. It was still way too bonkers to do, but Cole at least had Ciampa doing everything he could to help him take it as safely as possible. Foley just went for it. It makes me cringe to this day, especially when I see his state these days. When you see the replays, yes you can see Ciampa cradling Coleâs head. But watching it for the first time you couldnât see it as clearly and the fact they waited a while to show a replay just added to it.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 23, 2019 23:09:08 GMT -5
NXT TakeOver: War Games November 23rd, 2019 | Allstate Arena in Rosemont, Illinois
I was out today and missed the pre-show. Iâll watch Garza/Scott back later but this review will focus on the main card.
War Games: Bianca Belair, Io Shirai, Kay Lee Ray & Shayna Baszler vs. Candice LeRae, Dakota Kai, Rhea Ripley & Tegan Nox Rhea Ripley feels like a major star in the way that not many other people do. Dakota Kai replaced Mia Yim, who was mysteriously attacked on the Kickoff Show. Candice LeRae started against Io Shirai. It was another awesome installment in their rivalry. Bianca Belair made it 2-1 but the match really got going when Rhea Ripley entered fourth. She brought the weapons into play the changed the mood. Kay Lee Ray was next and brought in more weapons, leading to a huge Tower of Doom spot onto a pile of chairs. And then Bianca followed it with a 450 splash. Thatâs a taste of how this match went. Dakota Kai we supposed to be next in but she stopped, turned, and laid out Tegan Nox with a big boot. Dakota continued the attack, slamming the cage door on Teganâs surgically repaired knee. Dakota even hit William Regal when he came out. That segment was so well done. Now down 4-2, Team Rhea was in trouble. Candice and Rhea did well to fight back and got in a lot of hope spots. I loved the moment of Rhea and Shayna doing dueling hanging submissions. Ioâs moonsault off the cage was great, as was Candice wailing on Bianca with a kendo stick. There was so much great here. In an incredible finish, Rhea countered the Kirifuda Clutch by handcuffing herself to Shayna. The shocked champion then got hit with Riptide onto chairs, giving Team Ripley the upset in 29:37. That was the best War Games match NXT has done. It was brutal, had great spots, and told a fantastic story. The Dakota turn was memorable and the comeback from down 2 on 4 was done in a way that made sense and didnât seem cheap. Tremendous. [****Âœ]
Imperium was shown in the front row.
Number One Contender's Match: Damian Priest vs. Killian Dain vs. Pete Dunne The winner faces Adam Cole for the NXT Title at Survivor Series tomorrow. A lot of this was your typical triple threat fare. The two heels and big guys teamed up to beat down on Pete Dunne. Once he was out of the picture, they went at it themselves. Things picked up when they went outside and Dunne got dropped on a table followed by Dain diving onto and crushing Priest. From there on, this was fast paced and filled with big spots. But it still felt kind of hollow. I think it went too long. Not that 19:58 is overly long but it is when the outcome seems obvious. I couldnât imagine Priest or Dain in a Big Four PPV singles match so taking so long to get to Dunne as the winner felt unnecessary. Still, it had a lot to like going for it. Dain hit a senton with Dunne on his back onto Priest. Dain fell outside but Dunne grabbed the leg to score the three. Very good stuff but a bit long and lacking in drama. [***Âœ]
Finn Balor vs. Matt Riddle This match oddly doesnât feel like the big deal that it should. Iâm not sure why. Lots of good exchanges and some hard strikes in this one. Riddle always brings that but Finn had extra snap behind some of his shots. Even his baseball slide looked pretty stiff. Riddle got a pop for doing some Goldberg spots like the Spear and Jackhammer. There was just something about this that didnât quite click the way I wanted it to. A lot of the stuff they did was fine but it didnât have much feeling behind it. When Balor got his knees up on the Floating Bro it started to improve. They went into a series of counters that was the highlight of the match. But that segment wrapped quickly and Finn won with 1916 in 14:23. I liked this but wanted to like it more. Everything they did was smooth but it was missing that extra something to make it special. [***ÂŒ]
War Games: Dominik Dijakovic, Keith Lee, Kevin Owens and Tommaso Ciampa vs. The Undisputed Era Ciampa didnât announce his fourth team member. He came out with the old Psycho Killer mask and that was enough for me. Ciampa started against Roderick Strong. Their exchange was pretty basic, with Kyle OâReilly entering next. They had the advantage until Dijakovic hit the ring. He had a fun spot where he just kept leveling a rebounding OâReilly. Bobby Fish was next followed by the fantastic run of Keith Lee. War Games should be a series of hot tags and Lee is perfect for that role. Adam Cole headed straight to get a table and bring it into the mix. It backfired as Cole was sent through the table in short order. Team Ciampa faced off despite being down 4-3 and held their own. The buzzer went off and the fourth member was KEVIN OWENS! The pop was insane and Owens wore his original NXT gear. From that point on, the crowd was way into this and the action picked up. Big moves, close calls, and some great moments. The Panama Sunrise on the steel in between the two rings was insane. The match ended with a trio of massive spots. Owens frog splashed OâReilly through a table, Lee powerbombed Fish through one, and then Ciampa hit an absurd Air Raid Crash off the cage on Cole through two tables. Insanity. Team Ciampa wins in 38:28. Iâd call this pretty damn great. The thing that held it back was that some of the early stuff was kind of just there. Up until Keith Leeâs hot tag, it was just a pretty good tag. But things picked up there and went nuts. [***Ÿ]
Overall: 8/10. You want an example of how incredible NXT is at this TakeOver stuff? This 8/10 score is one of their worst TakeOver efforts in years. And this show rocked. Balor/Riddle was the worst thing and it was still good stuff. I liked the triple threat. Both War Games matches were strong, with the womenâs one being an all-time great.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Nov 24, 2019 0:53:42 GMT -5
Watching the Men's War Games match, and I'm watching Cole slide all of these tables in the ring, and it makes me appreciate the one good thing TNA did with their Lethal Lockdown matches, which was having the weapons descend with the ceiling at the Match Beyond stage. Both of the matches tonight had the pace slow to a crawl because someone had to spend several minutes sliding furniture through a cage door.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2019 1:42:09 GMT -5
Well, this show's gone to show why this place is better than a lot of others. Said somewhere, "Yeah, I didn't really like the women's match and the rest was up and down, I liked the triple threat (which people elsewhere seem to be really heavily hating on), show wasn't great," and just instantly got a ton of people bombarding me with how clearly I must be a troll for expressing an opinion that isn't in line with the majority.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Nov 24, 2019 1:49:00 GMT -5
Best night I've had watching wrestling in a while.
Only been watching Dark and NWA for a few weeks so it's nice to get that main event feel again.
This show actually made me interested in the SurSer tomorrow. Watching all the double duty NXT acts is gonna be a blast.
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Post by clifford on Nov 24, 2019 6:23:05 GMT -5
Probably been mentioned already but I loved the end of the Men's WarGames match parallel to the end of Cole/Gargano at Takeover Toronto
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