Zen411
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Post by Zen411 on Nov 7, 2019 17:48:51 GMT -5
If Bigelow stuck around in WWF after wrestlemania 4, (not counting the 93 return) how would he have been booked? Would he have won a championship? Done a heel turn? Feud with Hogan? Teamed with Hogan regularly?
In my opinion, whereas a feud with Hogan would be natural, it would be cool if he teased a heel turn only to lead a heel manager like heenan on only to stay face and end up feuding with the heenan family as a result.
Thoughts?
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Post by petef3 on Nov 7, 2019 18:15:07 GMT -5
They'd literally just done the "tease him as a heel but he rejects the manager" angle with Slick at his debut--they couldn't do it again.
The heel turn and Hogan feud is the logical way to go, but frankly the Big Boss Man was about to leave Bam Bam in the dust no matter which role he played. The run ultimately was a failure and there may really have not been anywhere to go with him besides allowing him to leave and come back hopefully fresher and revitalized.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Nov 7, 2019 18:21:44 GMT -5
Were there some attitude problems or anything with Bigelow at this time? He got a gigantic push during the second half of 87 with every heel manager begging him to align himself with them. And then was booked very strongly at Survivor Series by being down 3 to 1 and still took out Bundy and The One Man Gang. He was tagging with Hogan in main events at MSG in January 88 and then basically nothing other than a count out loss at WM4.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball☝🏻 on Nov 7, 2019 18:38:00 GMT -5
Were there some attitude problems or anything with Bigelow at this time? He got a gigantic push during the second half of 87 with every heel manager begging him to align himself with them. And then was booked very strongly at Survivor Series by being down 3 to 1 and still took out Bundy and The One Man Gang. He was tagging with Hogan in main events at MSG in January 88 and then basically nothing other than a count out loss at WM4. Yeah, I believe he basically got run out of the dressing room because of his attitude. He was young, with a huge push and green, didn’t make for a good combo.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Nov 7, 2019 18:39:25 GMT -5
Ultimately I don’t think he would’ve gotten as over in the long run, but I think had Bam Bam returned at Summerslam 88 and squashed Honky Tonk Man in place of Warrior, the audience would’ve ate it up in that moment.
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Post by lildude8218 on Nov 7, 2019 19:57:34 GMT -5
Heel turn and he could have either slid into the Bossman feud with Hogan or Bad News Brown's feud with Savage. Just something to keep either of the top babyfaces busy until the Mega Powers exploded the following year. After that? No idea.
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Post by Aceorton on Nov 7, 2019 21:36:07 GMT -5
Were there some attitude problems or anything with Bigelow at this time? He got a gigantic push during the second half of 87 with every heel manager begging him to align himself with them. And then was booked very strongly at Survivor Series by being down 3 to 1 and still took out Bundy and The One Man Gang. He was tagging with Hogan in main events at MSG in January 88 and then basically nothing other than a count out loss at WM4. Yeah, I believe he basically got run out of the dressing room because of his attitude. He was young, with a huge push and green, didn’t make for a good combo. If I'm not mistaken, he pissed Andre off at Survivor Series because he was so blown up at the end that their spots looked bad. I think Lanny Poffo is on record saying he was full of himself in the locker room. I could see an angle where DiBiase buys Bigelow off as an "enforcer" to try to get an edge on Hogan and Savage after failing to beat Savage for the belt. Bigelow-Savage matches could have been fun. Or maybe he joins Boss Man and Akeem, making them the Triple Towers? As a face, it's harder to see any decent possibilities. The shine had worn off and at that point in Bam Bam's career he was a way-below-average talker. Beating Honky for the IC belt would have seemed off ... like something that should have happened nine months earlier if it was going to happen. Humperdink was the shits as a manager. Maybe he turns on Bam Bam to form a heel stable, and Bam Bam feuds with them?
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Post by auph10imitated on Nov 8, 2019 7:46:05 GMT -5
Yeah the heel turn and feud with Hogan was pretty natural and also a challenger for Randy Savage, I always thought they made him a babyface to simply turn him heel eventually as he was a natural hell, natural heel look and that was the go to storyline of that era - babyface friend turns on Hogan. I guess in mid to late 1987 they were grooming him for this to happen, but Savage had this rise in popularity and basically took the role instead while Bam Bam just floundered and was phased out.
Hulk Hogan vs Bam Bam Bigelow could have easily been an early candidate for the Wrestlemania 4 Main Event really. With no tournament of shenanigans prior. Lets say Savage stays heel and does something else.. Bigelow was pushed to the final two at SurSer. They could have had him win the Royal Rumble by eliminating Hogan last, then turn heel challenging him to a title match at Mania.
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Post by Manute Bol on Nov 8, 2019 15:23:31 GMT -5
According to Bam Bam, the plan was for him to turn on Hogan and won the belt, but he was insistent that he needed time off for surgery which pissed off McMahon.
I always wondered if he had agreed to postpone the surgery, would Hogan/Bam Bam have been the main event of WrestleMania IV?
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 8, 2019 15:41:27 GMT -5
He'd be a heel, with Jimmy Hart as his manager.
He could have replaced Zeus as an opponent for Hogan because No Holds Barred would never have happened.
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Post by XIII on Nov 8, 2019 16:39:54 GMT -5
I’d have just stuck him with Akeem and the Bossman. Triple Towers.
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Post by lildude8218 on Nov 8, 2019 21:30:47 GMT -5
Here's a great terrible idea:
Bobby Heenan introduces the new King of the World Wrestling Federation: King Bam Bam!
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Post by Squirrel Master on Nov 9, 2019 18:45:55 GMT -5
Bring in Terry Gordy, fresh off his run as UWF Heavyweight Champion, to team with Bigelow as The Bam Bams, whether heel or face to start. If both were well and healthy, they could have had two years of programs, with WWF tag team title chase, victory and title defenses. Add a double turn on their previous alignment, then a team breakup via paranoia by one of the Bam Bams to ignite a singles feud.
This scenario requires a clean, focused Terry Gordy...probably one reason why we didn't see it.
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Post by jason1980s on Nov 10, 2019 8:26:02 GMT -5
I'm sure WWF felt burned by Bam Bam considering how much they did for him during the first few months only for him.
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Post by Manute Bol on Nov 10, 2019 10:00:49 GMT -5
I'm sure WWF felt burned by Bam Bam considering how much they did for him during the first few months only for him. Only for him to want to take care of an injury? The nerve of him!
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Post by Milkman Norm on Nov 10, 2019 10:56:51 GMT -5
Does this assumes the incredibly lame match at WM IV happened? Because... jeez at that point I can't see him as more a midcard face for a year or so until he can turn heel and start a program with Hogan. Of course if in this reality Big Bubba Rogers is pissed at his Starrcade payoff so he goes to New York, gets the Boss Man gimmick & draws huge money with Hulk that wasn't gonna happen either.
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Post by jason1980s on Nov 10, 2019 15:56:39 GMT -5
I'm sure WWF felt burned by Bam Bam considering how much they did for him during the first few months only for him. Only for him to want to take care of an injury? The nerve of him! He always seemed like a guy that left a promotion if something wasn't going his way. He joined NWA later in 1988 so I'm not so sure how much of his leaving WWF was from surgery or not assimilating to the locker room. I think he was best suited for a territory like attraction going from promotion to promotion for short periods. He was with WWF for less than a year before kind of becoming stale and forgotten about and he had like one good year during his 1992-1993 return before just being thrown bones by WWF with storylines or opponents.
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Post by auph10imitated on Nov 10, 2019 16:44:06 GMT -5
He left in 1995 when he was unhappy too, he was under contract to October 1996. It would have been interesting to see where he would have been booked on the card. Perhaps against Vader in Yokozuna’s spot, or a Bam Bam and Vader tag team with a strong tag championship run. Fodder for the debuting Mankind at some point. A push against Michaels after Hall & Nash left? Quite a few possibilities.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Nov 11, 2019 10:33:25 GMT -5
In addition: Bigelow already was on the shit list *allegedly* after he blew up during the Survivor Series match where they were trying to show case him. I remember Prichard saying during the watch along that he pissed off Andre by messing up a spot.
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