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Post by Alice Syndrome on Nov 10, 2019 17:22:14 GMT -5
Complaining about someone being ruined forever by wrestling a 9 year old in a comedy promotion is like hating Bryan Cranston in Breaking Bad because he once played a dork on Malcom in the Middle
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Nov 10, 2019 17:26:02 GMT -5
For all the smoke Cornette blows it isn't about anything he's done in the ring, it's Omega blowing off a Ring of Honor show while Cornette was booking, in order to work Japan. That got him on Cornette's shitlist, everything after that with the comedy matches is just a cherry on top. Cornette's excused guys he likes like Jericho and Flair (and himself, for that matter) for stupid crap before, Omega's real contribution to "killing the business" was ditching making money with/for Cornette to make more of it elsewhere.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 10, 2019 17:32:24 GMT -5
Right. It's petty and personal to him, same with how he talked nonstop shit about Kevin Owens when he left ROH, comfortably sitting behind a gag order Owens/Steen had to abide by to be released. He's kind of a punk, if you haven't gathered.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 10, 2019 17:35:22 GMT -5
Kenny Omega isn't a cokehead from the 80's NWA.
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Post by Dub H on Nov 10, 2019 17:49:42 GMT -5
For all the smoke Cornette blows it isn't about anything he's done in the ring, it's Omega blowing off a Ring of Honor show while Cornette was booking, in order to work Japan. That got him on Cornette's shitlist, everything after that with the comedy matches is just a cherry on top. Cornette's excused guys he likes like Jericho and Flair (and himself, for that matter) for stupid crap before, Omega's real contribution to "killing the business" was ditching making money with/for Cornette to make more of it elsewhere. Omega didn't work in japan,he went to accept a award(and he was still injured)
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Nov 10, 2019 18:14:19 GMT -5
Dave Meltzer gave Kenny Omega a six star match, which angered many old time fans who don't think today's wrestling is nearly as good, let alone better than what they grew up watching. Also, here is old Corny, who is more than willing to repeat this opinion, in his entertaining, angry way.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Nov 10, 2019 18:25:44 GMT -5
Kenny Omega did a terminator dive into Cornette's local Wendy's thus destroying the building and losing out on his favorite cheeseburgers.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 10, 2019 18:30:32 GMT -5
Kenny Omega did a terminator dive into Cornette's local Wendy's thus destroying the building and losing out on his favorite cheeseburgers. That's only because Cornette refused Kenny's offer of paying him Tuesday for a hamburger today.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Nov 10, 2019 18:45:18 GMT -5
Omega had the temerity to be successful without adhering to Cornette’s idea of what wrestling should be.
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Post by toodarkmark on Nov 10, 2019 23:39:52 GMT -5
In addition to the legitmate answer, that they had issues in ROH, his biggest problem with Kenny Omega is the need to monetize Kenny's success. There are a contingent of fans who hate Kenny, as well as The Bucks, and want to see them and AEW fail. He knows that he can make money off of these marks. That's the wrestling business, "how do I make money with what I do?" He is making money off of those who hate AEW and/or Omega so he goes overboard with it.
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Post by Dub H on Nov 10, 2019 23:44:02 GMT -5
Omega had the temerity to be successful without adhering to Cornette’s idea of what wrestling should be. It is interesting ,it also connects back to The Bucks, according to then Cornette wanted then to stop all the stuff that made then popular,including the superkicks
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 11, 2019 6:46:11 GMT -5
Omega et al pushed back at Corny's criticism, getting more eyes and ears on him so he's run with it, playing it up for hits, clicks and merch sales because he has his little cottage industry of shooting on things to maintain. When the targets of his ire ignore him, he tends to drop it.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Nov 11, 2019 6:47:29 GMT -5
I respect Jim Cornette's place in the history of the business as a promoter, manager, commentator, and historian. All of that being said: The same Jim Cornette who booked a mummy and a ninja turtle to wrestle in SMW is worried about someone making a mockery of the business? It's amazing how people can hate something, yet be completely oblivious to the same flaws within themselves.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 11, 2019 12:34:23 GMT -5
I think this is a question that can be asked about Chuck Taylor, Orange Cassidy, the Smash Bros, Joey Janela, and Jimmy Havoc
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Nov 11, 2019 12:48:32 GMT -5
Jim Cornette was a goofy, bitter, comedy manager who had absolutely zero use in modern wrestling, so he built a gimmick of loudly hating the things people love. Without Kevin Steen, El Generico, Kenny Omega, the Bucks, and basically the entire AEW roster, Cornette would have been forgotten about by now.
These guys have never needed Jim Cornette, he needs them. And that makes him even more bitter.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 11, 2019 13:32:31 GMT -5
Corny isn't bitter, why would he be? He made a lot of money from wrestling, travelled, met his wife and now he's making money without having to be on the road 90% of the year or put up with the politics of running a day to day promotion. He's found a niche being the angry videogame nerd of wrestling, yelling at clouds and trends for comedic effect, whether he's actually mad at them or not, his audience likes it, and once he's done complaining about Omega, he'll find something else. Corny is where he is because that's where he wants to be, he's not like Russo or Disco Inferno, in the situation where they complain because nobody will hire them.
As for being useless, he's still a decent colour commentator and he would be invaluable to any promotion as a promoter, not a booker. He's always been a crap booker, he was dated in 1992, but he is one of the few people in wrestling that understands the fundamentals of what it takes to make a promotion run day to day and live within it's means, not running up millions in debt trying to be the WWE or a super indy.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Nov 11, 2019 15:38:37 GMT -5
Omega's match with the little kid was actually brilliant, because he showed the value of selling, and how it can even make a nine year old girl's offence look devestating if done right. It was a masterclass, and Cornette completely misunderstood it. Not to mention that the greatest compliment that can be given to a wrestler is being so safe, people will trust you in there with a kid. Because the times have long since passed him by, regarding the art form he's dedicated his entire life to (as well as the general culture he lives in). Lacking money isn't the only reason someone would be bitter.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Nov 11, 2019 19:03:48 GMT -5
Even ignoring the money, he's happily married, healthy by wrestling standards, gets to work in wrestling on his terms and do his assorted side projects. If he were genuinely bitter and not playing a character, he would just walk away like so many of his peers have.
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Post by Starshine on Nov 11, 2019 19:27:49 GMT -5
Better question:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2019 19:50:09 GMT -5
The only reason I can see 'disliking' Kenny Omega is because he's too reliant on cutesy video game in-joke stuff and even then, disliking him or bad mouthing him constantly for that is a bit much.
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