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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 12, 2019 17:49:54 GMT -5
What the hey...
As I don't have the service yet, here is what I know from online reports:
Star Wars - the original movies are apparently the Blu-ray editions, with a compilation of changes made since 1997. A New Hope now has an added close-up of Greedo in the infamous shooting scene, before he is, well, shot.
The Simpsons - the season 3 episode "Stark-Raving Dad" is excluded for Michael Jackson being a central part/voice on the episode.
The Santa Clause - a gag about a 1-800-SPANK ME hotline is removed.
Andi Mack - episodes involving Stoney Westmoreland, the actor who played the grandfather, are gone due to him being fired for pedophilia and trying to plan a liaison with a thirteen year old boy.
Now, WHAT'S INTACT...
Dumbo - contrary to earlier reports, the scenes with the crows are intact. The movie is listed with a warning about outdated images.
Anything with Jim Cummings has not been altered, despite controversial news coming out earlier about the VA.
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Post by Muskrat on Nov 12, 2019 18:35:24 GMT -5
That Santa Clause one seems like a really random edit
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 18:40:06 GMT -5
I'm not 100% (not finished with it yet and not actually seen it previously anyway) but I think Fantasia is the 2000 edit, mostly because it has the guy dropping his chimes from the roadshow version.
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Post by Muskrat on Nov 12, 2019 18:57:47 GMT -5
I'm not 100% (not finished with it yet and not actually seen it previously anyway) but I think Fantasia is the 2000 edit, mostly because it has the guy dropping his chimes from the roadshow version. It more then likely is, as that was what was used for the 2010 Blu Ray release. Is it in 4K? Because man, if it’s 4K that would be stunningly beautiful
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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 12, 2019 19:11:11 GMT -5
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 12, 2019 19:17:20 GMT -5
That Santa Clause one seems like a really random edit I think they cut it from the home video release as well after they found out it was a real number for a phone sex hotline.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Nov 12, 2019 19:18:29 GMT -5
What the hey... As I don't have the service yet, here is what I know from online reports: Star Wars - the original movies are apparently the Blu-ray editions, with a compilation of changes made since 1997. A New Hope now has an added close-up of Greedo in the infamous shooting scene, before he is, well, shot. The Simpsons - the season 1 episode "Stark-Raving Dad" is excluded for Michael Jackson being a central part/voice on the episode. The Santa Clause - a gag about a 1-800-SPANK ME hotline is removed. Andi Mack - episodes involving Stoney Westmoreland, the actor who played the grandfather, are gone due to him being fired for pedophilia and trying to plan a liaison with a thirteen year old boy. Now, WHAT'S INTACT... Dumbo - contrary to earlier reports, the scenes with the crows are intact. The movie is listed with a warning about outdated images. Anything with Jim Cummings has not been altered, despite controversial news coming out earlier about the VA. Stark Raving Dad was episode 1 of season 3.
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Post by thirteen3 on Nov 12, 2019 19:24:00 GMT -5
I though Jim Cumming thing ended when he won custody of his kids because his ex was crazy? Or Am I thinking of somebody else?
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Post by Cyno on Nov 12, 2019 19:47:05 GMT -5
The divorce between Jim Cummings and his ex-wife was incredibly messy, to say the least. That isn't to say the accusations were flat-out lies, but so many things got thrown out there in addition to lack of evidence, and his ex-wife's own personal issues that it muddled the waters a lot. At the very least it allows Disney plausible deniability.
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Post by cjh on Nov 12, 2019 19:53:01 GMT -5
That Santa Clause one seems like a really random edit I think they cut it from the home video release as well after they found out it was a real number for a phone sex hotline. From what I've read, it's missing on the Blu-ray release, but it is on the original VHS and DVD as well as the streaming versions on YouTube and Amazon Prime.
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 12, 2019 19:56:06 GMT -5
The Darkwing Duck episode "Hot Spells" is also not on there from what I've heard.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 19:58:38 GMT -5
The Darkwing Duck episode "Hot Spells" is also not on there from what I've heard. Looking it up it's also not included in the iTunes and Google Play releases.
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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 12, 2019 20:07:10 GMT -5
The Darkwing Duck episode "Hot Spells" is also not on there from what I've heard. Any possible issues there?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 20:13:14 GMT -5
I'm not 100% (not finished with it yet and not actually seen it previously anyway) but I think Fantasia is the 2000 edit, mostly because it has the guy dropping his chimes from the roadshow version. It more then likely is, as that was what was used for the 2010 Blu Ray release. Is it in 4K? Because man, if it’s 4K that would be stunningly beautiful Don't think it is but I wouldn't really no. The Darkwing Duck episode "Hot Spells" is also not on there from what I've heard. Any possible issues there? From what I could tell looking it up episode drew criticism because of being a deal with the devil plot and wasn't put into syndication. It sounds very tame granted.
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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 12, 2019 20:21:05 GMT -5
It more then likely is, as that was what was used for the 2010 Blu Ray release. Is it in 4K? Because man, if it’s 4K that would be stunningly beautiful Don't think it is but I wouldn't really no. Any possible issues there? From what I could tell looking it up episode drew criticism because of being a deal with the devil plot and wasn't put into syndication. It sounds very tame granted. I see. Wonder if they kept the Rescue Rangers episode with the Asian stereotypes? (or include it, just with the disclaimer) And while we're on the topic, might as well inquire about... - Other missing episodes? - Phantom Menace : original or remastered version? - Fantasia still the altered version (race references gone, Corey Burton replacement audio)? - THINK THIS WAS CONFIRMED. - "Subliminal" references removed in select animated movies from the 80s and 90s? - Fantastic Four and Fox Spider-Man keep references to the WTC and/or it being in peril? - Melody Time = version with cigarettes edited out?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2019 20:22:36 GMT -5
Don't think it is but I wouldn't really no. From what I could tell looking it up episode drew criticism because of being a deal with the devil plot and wasn't put into syndication. It sounds very tame granted. I see. Wonder if they kept the Rescue Rangers episode with the Asian stereotypes? (or include it, just with the disclaimer) And while we're on the topic, might as well inquire about... - Other missing episodes? - Fantasia still the altered version (race references gone, Corey Burton replacement audio)? - THINK THIS WAS CONFIRMED. - "Subliminal" references removed in select animated movies from the 80s and 90s? - Fantastic Four and Fox Spider-Man keep references to the WTC and/or it being in peril? - Melody Time = version with cigarettes edited out? I just finished watching Fantasia and yeah, it's the edited version.
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Post by burdette25159 on Nov 12, 2019 20:55:59 GMT -5
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Post by wildojinx on Nov 12, 2019 21:57:46 GMT -5
It more then likely is, as that was what was used for the 2010 Blu Ray release. Is it in 4K? Because man, if it’s 4K that would be stunningly beautiful Don't think it is but I wouldn't really no. Any possible issues there? From what I could tell looking it up episode drew criticism because of being a deal with the devil plot and wasn't put into syndication. It sounds very tame granted. In that case, even if they did get the Muppet Show, we likely wouldnt have the Alice Cooper episode (same premise, they even mentioned Faust by name).
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Post by horsemen4ever on Nov 12, 2019 22:16:41 GMT -5
Well the Bonkders episode "New Partners On the Block" is there despite being banned. Sadly the lost Miranda episodes are not there, those epsioes might have been destroyed long ago. Too bad I am curious what the original pilot with Miranda was like.
They don't have the Donald Duck short "Donald's Dilema", I wonder if and when that is added, will it be edited? It is unedited on the Donald Duck Tressure collection DVDs.
For some reason the season 1 finale of Gummi Bears is missing. I don't remember it being that controversal.
And no Wuzzles, what the hell I want a refund.
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Post by burdette25159 on Nov 12, 2019 22:36:00 GMT -5
The reason for the Corly Burton replacement VO in fantasia is because in an effort to recreate the roadshow version of Fantasia with missing footage from the interstitials (including Deems Taylor's expanded introductions and additional shots of the on-screen orchestra) restored, and the original midway-point title card (which included the RKO Radio Pictures credit), but still containing the edit to the "Pastoral Symphony." Because most of Taylor's original dialogue tracks had not been preserved, it became necessary for Disney to have voice actor Corey Burton dub Taylor's lines (Taylor had passed away 34 years earlier).
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