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Post by Dub H on Dec 5, 2019 11:23:42 GMT -5
I wanna see him turn heel on JB and Luchasaurus, and be a little cowardly heel who hides behind a monster hoss. The image of him doing that obnoxious floss dance while a monster heel beats up the faces he's feuding with is gold to me. Basically Colin Delaney done right?
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Post by warden on Dec 5, 2019 11:23:59 GMT -5
People that say size doesn't mean shit in a fight have never had a bigger guy on them. There are reasons combat sports have weight divisions. However, this is rasslin and we go with the narrative of the size of the heart and the fighting spirit and all that hoopla. Plus all the small guy has to do is keep your shoulders down for 3 seconds and he has many ways of getting to that end result. He doesn't need to kick ass just get a lucky pin That being said I don't like Marko, so him getting beat is enjoyment for me I have literally witnessed a 150lb friend of mine knock the lights out of someone three times his size. I f***Ing hate that argument. You know how to fight, you know how to fight. You're right if you know how to fight you know how to fight. But if two equally skilled fighters clash more often than not the bigger guy prevails. It's why we don't see a guy like jon jones fight a cejudo. Cause more than likely jones eats poor cejudo.
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Post by sportatorium on Dec 5, 2019 13:15:26 GMT -5
He’s small. The current WWE Universal champion is an evil clown who exists as a figment of a wrestler’s imagination. The next Impact world champion is very likely to be a woman. One of the most over wrestlers in the NWA is a question mark. I don’t look at the last three and say “I can enjoy them because they’re bigger”.
Miz was a reality TV star, Bobby Heenan was a manager who never had in ring training, but could sell like death for babyface a when he got in the ring. Jerry Lawler publicly states that he never worked out in a gym. George Steele matching up physically with Randy Savage was laughable until it worked.
Otherwise, his booking has been great and his execution in the ring has been great. Mikey Whipwreck & Sean Waltman looked completely out of place back in the day as the guys they shared the ring with were even bigger than they are today. If Marko Stunt ever needs more credibility beyond his current role, give him submissions Or something that he can equalize the size difference that complements his aerial moves.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Dec 5, 2019 13:27:18 GMT -5
Seriously. He is doing literally everything that he can be doing to address most of the criticism against him. I feel like a lot of people who don't like him would only be satisfied by him never wrestling, ever, at all, because he is already wrestling in a manner congruent with said common criticisms. We have had wrestlers legitimately sell for a Blow Up Doll before, and a Giant Inflatable Panda. We treat mist like it's a real magical thing, we've seen wrestlers use hypnosis as a legit means of control in matches by legendary wrestlers mind you in some regards. Wrestlers dying and coming back to life is a legit thing several wrestlers have done to further a story. But nah dawg Marko Stunt, that ruins the believability of wrestling
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Post by Dub H on Dec 5, 2019 13:28:25 GMT -5
We have had wrestlers legitimately sell for a Blow Up Doll before, and a Giant Inflatable Panda. We treat mist like it's a real magical thing, we've seen wrestlers use hypnosis as a legit means of control in matches by legendary wrestlers mind you in some regards. Wrestlers dying and coming back to life is a legit thing several wrestlers have done to further a story. But nah dawg Marko Stunt, that ruins the believability of wrestling But you said it tho?For real?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 5, 2019 13:31:06 GMT -5
Eh, I don't get Stunt either. A lot of people will defend him by saying 'what about Jungle Boy'? Jungle Boy is tall and can bulk up for the main event if he needs to. But fair play, a lot of people like him and he gets a good reaction. I highly doubt Marko Stunt will ever (or should ever) touch championship gold, but he could fill out the Spike Dudley niche quite well and garner good heat for the heels. It's not entirely that he's small. It's that the rest of his schtick (association with JB and LS notwithstanding) is riding way too hard on the "He looks like a 11 year old!" thing. The Fortnite Dancing, the Rugrats-esque imagery (font, etc.) on some of his gear and merch, in MLW his theme was knock-off Sesame Street music... It comes off kind of unsettling, in a way.
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Post by salz4life on Dec 5, 2019 13:41:35 GMT -5
He's not my favorite, but he doesn't bother me at all. I see him as part of the package with Luchasauras and Jungle Boy. I don't know.
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Post by flowercity on Dec 5, 2019 14:12:57 GMT -5
I never knew how much the board was in favor of Marko. Interesting.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Dec 5, 2019 14:39:56 GMT -5
He's a reverse hoss. Anyone he wrestles is Hoss For The Night. He wrestles Christopher Daniels or Pentagon, Jr. the same way each of them would wrestle Giant Bernard or Kane, and it allows for a different view of wrestlers that are usually playing a set role. I'm 5'10 and 170 lbs., and Marko would make me look like Brock Lesnar. Haha. Play up Marko like Steve Rogers before the Super Serum, or at least like Crash Holly, and he's good to go.
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Post by realist on Dec 5, 2019 14:50:32 GMT -5
Eh, I don't get Stunt either. A lot of people will defend him by saying 'what about Jungle Boy'? Jungle Boy is tall and can bulk up for the main event if he needs to. But fair play, a lot of people like him and he gets a good reaction. I highly doubt Marko Stunt will ever (or should ever) touch championship gold, but he could fill out the Spike Dudley niche quite well and garner good heat for the heels. It's not entirely that he's small. It's that the rest of his schtick (association with JB and LS notwithstanding) is riding way too hard on the "He looks like a 11 year old!" thing. The Fortnite Dancing, the Rugrats-esque imagery (font, etc.) on some of his gear and merch, in MLW his theme was knock-off Sesame Street music... It comes off kind of unsettling, in a way. Bingo!! You hit the nail right on the head. This is the problem for me. It is not necessarily the size for me, as I never had much issue with Rey Mysterio or Spike Dudley fighting bigger guys, but something about this schtick is a bit unsettling. I do think that there is a place for Marko Stunt in wrestling. I think he'd be a great bumping heel manager. He could be this generation's Jimmy Hart.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 5, 2019 15:39:17 GMT -5
If more people wanna get Marko Stunt, he had a really great recent interview where he comes across as a very likable dude you wanna root for
FYI Stunt was supposed to be taller, he actually hurt the growth plate in his back. So that just makes me want to support him more for the peopel who say he isn't believable as a wrestler.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Dec 5, 2019 15:54:21 GMT -5
I really don't. He's short, he can wrestle and is he the son of c-list actor Pauly Shore of "Encino Man" fame? Can anyone tell me why I should care for Marko Stunt? If Le Champion doesn't, should I? I am biased with Marko. KNown of him for a few years now cause of him working NOrth MS shows. Got to talk to him a handful of times and the dude is very nice and so far is humble as hell. I get why his style isn't for everyone.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Dec 5, 2019 16:17:27 GMT -5
That stupid dance is actually a thing?
What the f*** is the world coming to?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 5, 2019 18:19:30 GMT -5
It's not entirely that he's small. It's that the rest of his schtick (association with JB and LS notwithstanding) is riding way too hard on the "He looks like a 11 year old!" thing. The Fortnite Dancing, the Rugrats-esque imagery (font, etc.) on some of his gear and merch, in MLW his theme was knock-off Sesame Street music... It comes off kind of unsettling, in a way. Bingo!! You hit the nail right on the head. This is the problem for me. It is not necessarily the size for me, as I never had much issue with Rey Mysterio or Spike Dudley fighting bigger guys, but something about this schtick is a bit unsettling. I do think that there is a place for Marko Stunt in wrestling. I think he'd be a great bumping heel manager. He could be this generation's Jimmy Hart. I feel like he could definitely be a good heel character. I could see him being the type who is a vicious type who lashes out when he can, but uses his size and general look to take advantage of people who hesitate or show weakness because he looks like a kid just entering adolescence. He makes people think he's vulnerable, but he's really a manipulative, conniving, chessmaster sociopath and/or psychopath. And yeah, give him a big, mountain of a man to step in when it looks like someone has him dead to rights.
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Post by Hypnosis on Dec 5, 2019 19:23:23 GMT -5
That stupid dance is actually a thing? What the f*** is the world coming to? I'm afraid so.
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Post by Mike Strike on Dec 5, 2019 19:45:51 GMT -5
If you throw a 50 lb weight at a guy's face it's gonna hurt.
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Post by bog on Dec 5, 2019 19:51:13 GMT -5
He’s small. The current WWE Universal champion is an evil clown who exists as a figment of a wrestler’s imagination. The next Impact world champion is very likely to be a woman. One of the most over wrestlers in the NWA is a question mark. I don’t look at the last three and say “I can enjoy them because they’re bigger”. Miz was a reality TV star, Bobby Heenan was a manager who never had in ring training, but could sell like death for babyface a when he got in the ring. Jerry Lawler publicly states that he never worked out in a gym. George Steele matching up physically with Randy Savage was laughable until it worked. Otherwise, his booking has been great and his execution in the ring has been great. Mikey Whipwreck & Sean Waltman looked completely out of place back in the day as the guys they shared the ring with were even bigger than they are today. If Marko Stunt ever needs more credibility beyond his current role, give him submissions Or something that he can equalize the size difference that complements his aerial moves. Or keep him in hardcore matches where he can just throw things and jump off things
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Dec 5, 2019 20:40:38 GMT -5
Personally, as long as the partnership with AAA is in place, I'd love to see them bring in some of the minis to wrestle against Stunt. Here's a five-man minis championship match from last month in AAA (starts at around 14 minutes in if timestamp doesn't work); these guys are all around Marko's size, some even a bit larger.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 5, 2019 22:43:19 GMT -5
Personally, as long as the partnership with AAA is in place, I'd love to see them bring in some of the minis to wrestle against Stunt. Here's a five-man minis championship match from last month in AAA (starts at around 14 minutes in if timestamp doesn't work); these guys are all around Marko's size, some even a bit larger. Honestly I feel at this point the AAA partnertship is just for The Lucha Bros. They barely use TH2 right now(but i'm sure that will change,can't push everyone at same time)
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Post by Dang! on Dec 6, 2019 10:33:01 GMT -5
That stupid dance is actually a thing? What the f*** is the world coming to? I'm afraid so. NEIN! AUFHÖREN! Das ist ja furchtbar. Das ist kein Tanz. DIES IST EIN TANZ:
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