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Post by Dub H on Jan 13, 2020 17:18:23 GMT -5
Every day in life I see people in power attacking things such as ONGS and overall people that give a damn about a cause like that.
So yeh I dont believe Gabe for a second
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Post by Jacy Jayne Atomic Dog AMV on Jan 13, 2020 17:19:15 GMT -5
I don't even like David Starr much at all but wow I do not believe Gabe here, lol. You don't like a man who tries to fight for better working conditions for wrestlers? I never said I disliked what he was doing. I'm a gigantic fan of it. I've just found him super obnoxious since before he even started doing it.
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Post by autisticgeordie on Jan 13, 2020 17:20:55 GMT -5
You don't like a man who tries to fight for better working conditions for wrestlers? I never said I disliked what he was doing. I'm a gigantic fan of it. I've just found him super obnoxious since before he even started doing it. I can see that, I think Starr himself has even owned up to the fact that he rubbed people the wrong way, back when he was teaming with JT Dunn what feels like forever ago. Honestly, Starr seems like someone who's getting closer than anyone has to helping the wrestlers since more and more promotions are joining unions and stuff.
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Post by Steveweiser on Jan 13, 2020 17:31:39 GMT -5
HE'S ACTUALLY PUT OUT THE SHIRT. AMAZING.
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Post by autisticgeordie on Jan 13, 2020 17:33:16 GMT -5
So, EVOLVE or PROGRESS? Who sold out the most?
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 13, 2020 17:38:52 GMT -5
This WWE deal has really brought out a lot more of Gabe's shitty side and awoken something noxious in him, but responding to accusations he doesn't pay wrestlers enough with "If they don't want to take my offer that's on them" is. Oof.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Jan 13, 2020 17:50:43 GMT -5
So, EVOLVE or PROGRESS? Who sold out the most? Easily EVOLVE.
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Post by Display Name on Jan 13, 2020 18:10:32 GMT -5
Gabe is a shithead. Starr is an annoying and smug shithead. They can both go away.
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Post by autisticgeordie on Jan 13, 2020 18:12:26 GMT -5
Gabe is a shithead. Starr is an annoying and smug shithead. They can both go away. One of these men won't even pay his employees and the other is trying to improve the industry, I know which one I'd call an annoying and smug shithead and it's not David Starr.
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Post by eJm on Jan 13, 2020 18:15:23 GMT -5
So, EVOLVE or PROGRESS? Who sold out the most? Easily EVOLVE. For all the stick you could give PROGRESS, at least people want to go there. There's new talent being booked there to potentially replace some of the signed guys. Darby Allin leaves EVOLVE, becomes one of the fastest rising stars in one night against Cody.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Jan 13, 2020 18:18:42 GMT -5
Gabe is a shithead. Starr is an annoying and smug shithead. They can both go away. So, the man who tries to help wrestlers and improve the industry is annoying and smug? Guessing you just want the status quo to stay the same with wrestlers being just treated like garbage? Isn't it great how a guy is told to "Go away" for daring to try and improve the industry, yeah, it's not like the wrestlers matter, anyway, right? Maybe people have other reasons for disliking him? You're getting needlessly personal when you don't know shit about who you're attacking.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 13, 2020 18:30:02 GMT -5
2020 has been just unrelenting on all fronts wrestling and otherwise so far.
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Post by autisticgeordie on Jan 13, 2020 18:32:46 GMT -5
For all the stick you could give PROGRESS, at least people want to go there. There's new talent being booked there to potentially replace some of the signed guys. Darby Allin leaves EVOLVE, becomes one of the fastest rising stars in one night against Cody. Darby has also verbally backhanded Gabe about pay, too, I believe?
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jan 13, 2020 18:33:48 GMT -5
This WWE deal has really brought out a lot more of Gabe's shitty side and awoken something noxious in him, but responding to accusations he doesn't pay wrestlers enough with "If they don't want to take my offer that's on them" is. Oof. Per Punk and Joe back in 05, this is a guy who would throw screaming tantrums over minor technical errors, doing things like throwing plates at the wall and otherwise being a violent, petulant child backstage. I got the strong sense that the two of them found it funny because they knew they could walk out the door and leave him high and dry if they wanted. Give a guy like that power, this is what happens.
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Post by Rave on Jan 13, 2020 18:40:13 GMT -5
One can agree with what David Starr is trying to accomplish, yet still find him annoying as f***. It's not a mutually exclusive thing.
Gabe's a prick, we all know that.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 13, 2020 18:44:44 GMT -5
One can agree with what David Starr is trying to accomplish, yet still find him annoying as f***. It's not a mutually exclusive thing. Gabe's a prick, we all know that. The problem is that when you say "I don't like either of these guys", people call you a fence-sitter afraid to take a stand.
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Post by toodarkmark on Jan 13, 2020 18:46:48 GMT -5
I guess another WWE proxy being used to attack something Vince hates, the idea of unionizing. I'm sure the Gabe personal issues are just coincidental.
Wrestles can't start promotions, can't unionize, they can just be tools for Rupert Murdoch and Saudi Arabia contracts.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Jan 13, 2020 18:46:54 GMT -5
Also, wait, David Starr full on lives in the UK now?! I just thought he came over here all the time like Timothy Thatcher would do with wXw in Germany? Yeah, he lives in London now, his partner is English. Apparently he lives in Bishop's Stortford. Probably can't afford London with only those indy paydays. /s
Anyway, not much of a shocker here, not paying talent properly and throwing spectacular shitfits are kind of his trademarks. You'd think with all of the money he's raking in from the McMahons that he might be able to afford decent paydays for his wrestlers these days.
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Post by Dub H on Jan 13, 2020 18:53:57 GMT -5
One can agree with what David Starr is trying to accomplish, yet still find him annoying as f***. It's not a mutually exclusive thing. Gabe's a prick, we all know that. The problem is that when you say "I don't like either of these guys", people call you a fence-sitter afraid to take a stand. Thing is this is not a case of liking the guy or not.It is about business pratices and morals of both guys.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 13, 2020 20:10:03 GMT -5
Gabe is notoriously difficult to work with and also someone that if he has some kind of connection will hold it over wrestlers heads to get them to do what he wants.
Though this reminded me of him whining about how AEW would ruin the indies and a bunch of people called him out for being a WWE employee and it shut him up. He even tried to rally people against AEW.
As for Starr... I agree with the message but he can be a bit hard to like
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