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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Feb 16, 2020 22:07:50 GMT -5
NXT has a real problem with faces man. It really is a cool heel heavy promotion. NXT makes me appreciate Jay White in NJPW even more. Not a cool heel. Just a piece of crap (in kayfabe!) that's easy to hate.
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Post by Chiral on Feb 16, 2020 22:08:05 GMT -5
Like what was even the story of that last third there? It was just like big move big move big move big move big move murder move UE interferes nut shot nut shot and then a belt shot ends it...
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Feb 16, 2020 22:08:31 GMT -5
MORE Ciampa vs Gargano? Miss me with that shit. Now to be fair about the whole thing, the final blowoff match to the year-long feud didn't get to happen due to Ciampa's neck injury. If they're only doing this to finish that, then I'll allow it personally. I bet this is brought up for sure.
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Post by salz4life on Feb 16, 2020 22:08:32 GMT -5
Ugh..... so now it will be Cole/Gargano/Ciampa at Tampa? Ehhhh...... four way with Balor I'd imagine. Yeah.... I forgot Balor won. You’re right.
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Post by Chiral on Feb 16, 2020 22:09:21 GMT -5
NXT has a real problem with faces man. It really is a cool heel heavy promotion. That's HHH problem in general He leans way too heavy into heel champs Very true, and that goes all the way back to like...man I was gonna say 2002 Raw but it might be longer with his Attitude Era run. IDK if that counts since I'm not sure he had as much booking power then.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 22:09:26 GMT -5
There is such a thing as TOO many kickouts.
Plus Ciampa essentially no selling the effects of that Sunrise on the floor really bothered me.
Its hard to believe he would be beat by getting with the belt when he survived THAT.
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Post by RKTaker on Feb 16, 2020 22:10:04 GMT -5
gargano vs ciampa and lee vs dijakovic the feuds that never end
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 16, 2020 22:10:24 GMT -5
So, uh... Dream to be the one to beat Cole? Who does this even leave otherwise if Ciampa and Gargano are gonna go do their thing? I don’t see why not. Velveteen Dream is awesome.
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Post by Moppy on Feb 16, 2020 22:11:14 GMT -5
There is such a thing as TOO many kickouts. Plus Ciampa essentially no selling the effects of that Sunrise on the floor really bothered me. Its hard to believe he would be beat by getting with the belt when he survived THAT. This is a fair point. The belt shot looked weak compared to everything else, and not in a "this finally finishes him off" kind of way either.
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Post by MrElijah on Feb 16, 2020 22:14:02 GMT -5
Despite Ciampa cheating ways and Gargano being a bastard, Adam Cole wins clean as a sheet! What?! Which match did you watch? My monitor kept going out.
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Post by salz4life on Feb 16, 2020 22:15:34 GMT -5
I just had a thought...... what if they figured out a way to have Gargano challenge Cole at Takeover and have Ciampa face Finn. Gargano beats Cole and Ciampa beats Finn.... Ciampa/Gargano for the NXT title at Mania.... or blow off Ciampa/Gargano at Takeover, have Cole beat Finn and then have Ciampa beat Cole at Mania
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 16, 2020 22:19:22 GMT -5
Johnny probably needed to turn heel, but at the same time, what, am I supposed to feel sorry for Ciampa? He has this coming.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 22:28:53 GMT -5
From an action standpoint, this show was pretty awesome.
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Post by fw91 on Feb 16, 2020 22:32:12 GMT -5
Johnny probably needed to turn heel, but at the same time, what, am I supposed to feel sorry for Ciampa? He has this coming. Agreed.
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Post by hbkid718 on Feb 16, 2020 22:40:14 GMT -5
Another amazing Takeover. Keith Lee VS Dominik Dijakovic was off the charts, one of the best Takeover openers in History. The Street Fight between Tegan Nox & Dakota Kai was OK. They worked hard, but I had no idea who Raquel Gonzalez is, so there was no need for interference. Johnny Gargano VS Finn Balor was incredible. Rhea Ripley VS Bianca Belair was very good and I like they saved the interference for after the match. The Broserweights VS The Undisputed ERA was a fun match. Tomasso Ciampa VS Adam Cole was an amazing match, but lost momentum with too many near falls, interference, & the ref bump. Here’s the Complete History of Takeover, now updated with tonight’s results:Here are the Facts & Stats for NXT Takeover: Portland: - NXT Takeover: Portland was the 1st Takeover since Takeover: War Games I on November 18, 2017 that Shayna Baszler did not compete, ending a streak of 10 straight Takeovers, tying her with Asuka for most consecutive Takeovers in a row for all-time, the 1st Takeover in History where no one made their Takeover debut, the 1st Takeover since Takeover: Toronto on August 10, 2019 to have 2 Women’s Matches, & the 2nd Takeover in a row to have 6 matches - Keith Lee VS Dominik Dijakovic was the 2nd North American Championship Match of 2020 & the 1st since NXT on January 20, 2020 & the 7th North American Title Match in Takeover History & the 1st since Takeover: Toronto on August 10, 2019, the 1st time since Takeover: Phoenix that The Velveteen Dream was not in a North American Title Match, Keith Lee’s 2nd Takeover in a row & 1st Singles Match & Title Match at a Takeover, he is the 1st North American Champion since The Velveteen Dream at Takeover: New York on April 5, 2019 to defend the North American Title at a Takeover after winning it at an event other than a Takeover, Dominik Dijakovic’s 2nd Takeover in a row & 1st Singles Match & Title Match at a Takeover, Keith Lee & Dominik Dijakovic join Charlotte Flair & Bayley, Baron Corbin & Rhyno, Finn Balor & Samoa Joe, Johnny Gargano & Tommaso Ciampa, Kyle O’Reilly & Roderick Strong, Ricochet & War Raiders, Shayna Baszler & Io Shirai, & Tegan Nox & Dakota Kai this event, as the only wrestlers to be both opponents & partners at a Takeover, as they were partners at Takeover: War Games III on November 23, 2019, the 1st Singles Match to open Takeover since Riddle VS Strong at Takeover 25 on June 1, 2019 or the 1st North American Title to open a Takeover since the 6-Way Ladder Match at Takeover: New Orleans on April 7, 2018, Lee & Dijakovic’s 1st ever Takeover opener, & they were the 1st since Aleister Black at Takeover: Phoenix on January 26, 2019 & Takeover: New York on April 5, 2019 to go from the Takeover main event to the following Takeover opener, the 5th 1-on-1 Match between Lee & Dijakovic, with their 1st match taking place on NXT on February 27, 2019, which ended in a Double Count Out, & their last match prior to Takeover taking place on NXT on October 16, 2019, which ended in a No Contest, so now in their 5 previous matches, Lee won twice, Dijakovic won once, & 2 matches ended in a No Contest, & Lee was the 2nd North American Champion in a row & only 2nd in History after The Velveteen Dream to have a successful 1st Title Defense at a Takeover - Tegan Nox VS Dakota Kai was the 5th No Disqualification Match in Takeover History, the 1st since Johnny Gargano VS Tommaso Ciampa at Takeover: Chicago on June 16, 2018, the 1st Women’s Street Fight in Takeover History, & the 2nd No Disqualification Match of 2020 & the 1st since NXT UK on January 2, 2020, both Tegan Nox & Dakota Kai’s 2nd Takeover in a row & 1st Singles Match at a Takeover, Tegan Nox & Dakota Kai join Charlotte Flair & Bayley, Baron Corbin & Rhyno, Finn Balor & Samoa Joe, Johnny Gargano & Tommaso Ciampa, Kyle O’Reilly & Roderick Strong, Ricochet & War Raiders, Shayna Baszler & Io Shirai, & Keith Lee & Dominik Dijakovic this event, as the only wrestlers to be both opponents & partners at a Takeover, as they were partners at Takeover: War Games III on November 23, 2019, & was the 2nd 1-on-1 Match between them, as they wrestled on NXT on January 29, 2020, which was won by Nox, so now in their 2 matches, they each have 1 win each. - Johnny Gargano VS Finn Balor was Johnny Gargano’s 16th Takeover, which is the most in History & 1st since Takeover: Toronto on August 10, 2019, his 1st 1-on-1 Non-Title Non-Gimmick Match since he lost to Aleister Black at Takeover: War Games II on November 17, 2018, Finn Balor’s 10th Takeover, but 11th match, tying him with Adam Cole & Kyle O’Reilly for 3rd place for most Takeover matches, as he competed twice at Takeover: Respect on October 7, 2015, & his 2nd in a row, & the 1st ever match between 2 former NXT Champions in Takeover History, the 1st ever 1-on-1 match between Johnny Gargano & Finn Balor, & was the 100th Singles Match in WWE, NXT, NXT UK, & 205 Live on TV & PPV in 2020 - Rhea Ripley VS Bianca Belair was the 2nd NXT Women’s Championship Match of 2020 & the 1st since Worlds Collide on January 25, & the 27th in Takeover History & the 1st since Takeover: Toronto on August 10, 2019, the 1st time since Takeover: War Games on November 18, 2017 that Shayna Baszler will not be competing in an NXT Women’s Championship Match, ending a streak of 9 straight Title Matches at a Takeover, which was the most in Takeover History, Rhea Ripley’s 2nd Takeover in a row & her 1st NXT Women’s Championship Match at a Takeover, she is the 1st NXT Women’s Champion not named Shayna Baszler since Ember Moon at Takeover: Philadelphia on January 27, 2018, & the 1st NXT Women’s Champion since Shayna Baszler at Takeover: War Games II on November 17, 2018 to defend the NXT Women’s Championship for the 1st time at Takeover after winning the title at an event other than a Takeover, Was Bianca Belair’s 4th Takeover & 2nd in a row & her 3rd NXT Women’s Championship Match & 1st since Takeover: New York on April 5, 2019, , the 2nd Takeover in a row that Ripley & Belair wrestled each other, as they were on opposite teams at Takeover: War Games III on November 23, 2019, & was the 2nd time they wrestled each other, as Ripley defeated Belair on NXT on October 23, 2019, Ripley was the 3rd NXT Women’s Champion in a row to have a successful 1st Title Defense, & Belair was the 1st Woman to have 4 losses without a win at Takeover - Pete Dunne & Matt Riddle VS The Undisputed ERA was the 1st NXT Tag Team Championship Match of 2020 & the 24th Tag Team Championship Match in Takeover History & the 1st since Toronto on August 10, 2019, Pete Dunne’s 7th Takeover & 3rd in a row, & his 1st Tag Team Match since he & Roderick Strong lost to The Undisputed ERA in a Triple Threat Match at Takeover: New Orleans on April 7, 2018, Matt Riddle’s 6th Takeover & 2nd in a row, & his 1st ever Tag Team Match at Takeover, Bobby Fish’s 7th Takeover & 3rd in a row, & his 4th NXT Tag Team Championship Match & 1st since Takeover XXV on June 1, 2019, Kyle O’Reilly’s 11th Takeover, tying him with Finn Balor & Adam Cole for 3rd place for most Takeover matches, & 4th in a row, & his 8th Tag Team Championship Match, which is the most in Takeover History, The Undisputed ERA were the 1st Tag Team Champions since Scott Dawson & Dash Wilder at Takeover: London on December 6, 2015 to defend the Tag Team Titles at a Takeover after winning them at an event other than a Takeover, was the 1st ever meeting between The Broserweights & The Undisputed ERA, & was the 50th Tag Team Match in WWE, NXT, NXT UK, & 205 Live on TV & PPV in 2020, the 1st NXT Tag Team Title Change of 2020, the 10th in Takeover History & the 1st since Takeover XXV on June 1, 2019, when The Street Profits won the Vacant Titles in a Ladder Match, & Pete Dunne became the 2nd wrestler in History after Tyler Bate to be both NXT UK & NXT Tag Team Champion - Tommaso Ciampa VS Adam Cole was the 1st NXT Championship Match of 2020 & the 26th NXT Championship Match in Takeover History & the 1st since Toronto on August 10, 2019, Tommaso Ciampa’s 12th Takeover, tying him with Roderick Strong for 2nd most Takeover Matches in History, & 2nd in a row & his 3rd NXT Championship Match & 1st since Takeover: Phoenix on January 26, 2019, he is the 1st former NXT Champion since Aleister Black at Takeover: Phoenix on January 26, 2019 to get a shot at the NXT Title, Adam Cole’s 10th Takeover, but 11th match since he competed twice at Takeover: New Orleans on April 7, 2018, tying him with Finn Balor & Kyle O’Reilly in 3rd place for most Takeover Matches of all-time & 5th in a row, his 4th NXT Championship Match, making him the 1st wrestler since Johnny Gargano to compete in 4 or more NXT Championship Matches, the 22nd NXT Championship Match to be the main event of a Takeover & the 1st since Takeover: Toronto on August 10, 2019, both Tommaso Ciampa & Adam Cole’s 7th Takeover main event, keeping them in 2nd place after Johnny Gargano at 8 for most Takeover main events, Tommaso Ciampa’s 2nd main event in a row, & Cole’s 5th main event in a row, tying him with Samoa Joe for the most consecutive main events in Takeover history, the 2nd Takeover in a row that Ciampa & Cole wrestled each other, as they were on opposite teams at Takeover: War Games III on November 23, 2019, & was the 1st ever 1-on-1 Match between them in NXT, & though he didn’t defend the title at War Games III, Adam Cole was the 1st NXT Champion since Tommaso Ciampa to retain the title at back-to-back Takeover defenses - NXT Takeover: Portland was the 1st time that the Tag Team Titles were the only Titles to change hands since The Revival defeated American Alpha at Takeover: The End on June 8, 2016
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 16, 2020 23:47:50 GMT -5
Johnny probably needed to turn heel, but at the same time, what, am I supposed to feel sorry for Ciampa? He has this coming. Yeah, the asshole got attacked by his "friend" who he had spent like a year and ahalf before purposely tormenting...
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 16, 2020 23:54:46 GMT -5
Johnny probably needed to turn heel, but at the same time, what, am I supposed to feel sorry for Ciampa? He has this coming. Yeah, the asshole got attacked by his "friend" who he had spent like a year and ahalf before purposely tormenting... Yeah, like, I don't keep up closely with the weekly shows or anything, but has he made any kind of apologies, or...?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 0:51:51 GMT -5
Johnny probably needed to turn heel, but at the same time, what, am I supposed to feel sorry for Ciampa? He has this coming. Yeah, the asshole got attacked by his "friend" who he had spent like a year and ahalf before purposely tormenting... Makes absolutely no sense lol. Of course Johnny is gonna do the whole "YOU people" promo next. Because he can't possibly be a good man who just happens to hate the guy that essentially tormented him for about a year. Either way, I am over this feud. They both need to be separated from each other. It's as tiring as Owens vs Zayn at this point.
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