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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 22, 2020 15:02:22 GMT -5
Let’s walk through both scenarios. Either the Goldberg injury never happened and he is a healthy (the more fun scenario) or he is retired from in-ring action, but can be used for other things.
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Post by thegatewaydrug on Jan 22, 2020 15:41:50 GMT -5
I think you mean "The TNA".
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Post by corndog on Jan 23, 2020 11:45:02 GMT -5
Had Bret never had the injury, I still don't see him going to TNA. He probably would have just retired after his WCW contract expired. Unless offered him some serious cash, I don't see Bret going to a second tier company, especially after all the money he made in wrestling. He might have got enough of a bug to work to do a farewell tour in WWE in the mid 2000s. Would have been great to see him work against Regal, Angle, Guerrero, Michaels one last time and a Jericho match.
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Post by timelimitdraw on Jan 23, 2020 12:01:39 GMT -5
If Bret hadn't gotten hurt, he probably would've done a handful of matches in Japan or for World Wrestling All-Stars, then signed with TNA after they started on Spike. Basically, kind of the Sting/TNA career trajectory.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2020 12:32:22 GMT -5
Christy Hemme or Leticia Cline interviewing Bret Hart would have happened. And I would have been happy. (After couple years, of course...)
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 23, 2020 12:50:06 GMT -5
If Bret hadn't gotten hurt, he probably would've done a handful of matches in Japan or for World Wrestling All-Stars, then signed with TNA after they started on Spike. Basically, kind of the Sting/TNA career trajectory. This is how I could see it happening. Being that Bret didn't like his run in WCW he wouldn't want to end on that note. The idea of Bret vs. Angle in TNA would have been money. I'm going by the fact that early 2010 Bret post stroke was willing to work. So his retirement I don't think would been that close to the ending of his WCW contract. Than again I don't really know IF Bret would signed with TNA because of Russo.
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jan 24, 2020 3:34:21 GMT -5
I'd preferred an XWF run, myself.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 24, 2020 10:44:15 GMT -5
Bret wasn't exactly lighting the world on fire before his injury in WCW, I think by 2002 he would pretty much be done with the business.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 24, 2020 12:12:30 GMT -5
What's ummm.... Bret Hart? Doing in the Impact Zone!
See because his gimmick name is his real name so the "What's ...?" gag doesn't work. I'll see myself out.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 24, 2020 15:49:13 GMT -5
What's ummm.... Bret Hart? Doing in the Impact Zone! See because his gimmick name is his real name so the "What's ...?" gag doesn't work. I'll see myself out. His Impact Name would be Bret Harte like the obscure area of central California. Not because of copyright or as a reference to it, but TNA gotta TNA.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 16:23:36 GMT -5
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Jan 24, 2020 23:55:09 GMT -5
What's ummm.... Bret Hart? Doing in the Impact Zone! See because his gimmick name is his real name so the "What's ...?" gag doesn't work. I'll see myself out. What's Brent Shart doing in the Impact Zone?!
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Post by mauled on Jan 25, 2020 9:04:38 GMT -5
Let’s walk through both scenarios. Either the Goldberg injury never happened and he is a healthy (the more fun scenario) or he is retired from in-ring action, but can be used for other things. Wasn't he under a guaranteed contract with WCW like Hogan/Hall and Nash etc. Like them wouldn't he just sit at home and collect those cheques regardless of WCW closing. Also (memory is fuzzy) but when did Hogan and Bishoff join TNA. I can't see Bret wanting anything to do with them again given they buried him in WCW
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 25, 2020 9:29:15 GMT -5
Let’s walk through both scenarios. Either the Goldberg injury never happened and he is a healthy (the more fun scenario) or he is retired from in-ring action, but can be used for other things. Wasn't he under a guaranteed contract with WCW like Hogan/Hall and Nash etc. Like them wouldn't he just sit at home and collect those cheques regardless of WCW closing. Also (memory is fuzzy) but when did Hogan and Bishoff join TNA. I can't see Bret wanting anything to do with them again given they buried him in WCW Good point about Bret’s contract. I’m fuzzy on when exactly his expired. Anyone remember? Hogan and Bischoff though didn’t join until way, way later. Russo joined much sooner and some posters are at least hinting here that Bret had a problem with Russo, but I don’t recall that being the case. If it’s because of Owen’s death then any involvement Russo had certainly didn’t stop Bret from working with Russo in WCW. Also, in Russo’s YouShoot from years ago he spoke highly of Bret and took credit for pointing him in the main event after WCW had booked him as a midcarder.
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Post by 67 more on Jan 25, 2020 9:31:23 GMT -5
What's ummm.... Bret Hart? Doing in the Impact Zone! See because his gimmick name is his real name so the "What's ...?" gag doesn't work. I'll see myself out. His Impact Name would be Bret Harte like the obscure area of central California. Not because of copyright or as a reference to it, but TNA gotta TNA. Brother Bret Cage
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Post by corndog on Jan 25, 2020 10:02:04 GMT -5
Wasn't he under a guaranteed contract with WCW like Hogan/Hall and Nash etc. Like them wouldn't he just sit at home and collect those cheques regardless of WCW closing. Also (memory is fuzzy) but when did Hogan and Bishoff join TNA. I can't see Bret wanting anything to do with them again given they buried him in WCW Good point about Bret’s contract. I’m fuzzy on when exactly his expired. Anyone remember? Hogan and Bischoff though didn’t join until way, way later. Russo joined much sooner and some posters are at least hinting here that Bret had a problem with Russo, but I don’t recall that being the case. If it’s because of Owen’s death then any involvement Russo had certainly didn’t stop Bret from working with Russo in WCW. Also, in Russo’s YouShoot from years ago he spoke highly of Bret and took credit for pointing him in the main event after WCW had booked him as a midcarder. Bret signed a three year deal with WCW, and I am not entirely sure if it began in December of 1997 or November, since he didn't appear for WCW until December, but the Montreal Screwjob happened on November 9. However, I believe Bret said his contract didn't expire until the end of the month and that he easily could have dropped the belt at the following Raw or even later. As far as Russo, Bret did say in his book that once Russo became head booker he was finally booked to relevance and won the championship. It's been a while since I read his book, but I don't remember him blaming Russo for Owen's death, he blamed Vince knowing he was the final say on creative and partially himself because he couldn't be there himself to stop Owen from doing the stunt.
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 25, 2020 10:13:08 GMT -5
I can see Bret going to TNA if healthy. As someone said, he wouldn't have wanted his in ring career to end on a sour note like WCW. Also, I can see him going just as a jab against Vince McMahon who I believe he still had some issues with. I think 2002 TNA may have been post motorcycle accident where Vince reached out but it would be another 3-4 years before they got together to do the DVD and that was only because Bret didn't want a burial DVD and felt he needed to participate.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 25, 2020 19:49:06 GMT -5
Impact would be in a better state as he would have acted as a barrier against Russo and would have prevented him gaining a toxic foothold in the company in the Dixie era. There's no way Russo is employed while he's there after his involvement in the events that led to Owen's death.
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Post by cjh on Jan 25, 2020 20:06:42 GMT -5
Let’s walk through both scenarios. Either the Goldberg injury never happened and he is a healthy (the more fun scenario) or he is retired from in-ring action, but can be used for other things. Wasn't he under a guaranteed contract with WCW like Hogan/Hall and Nash etc. Like them wouldn't he just sit at home and collect those cheques regardless of WCW closing. Also (memory is fuzzy) but when did Hogan and Bishoff join TNA. I can't see Bret wanting anything to do with them again given they buried him in WCW Bret was released by WCW in October 2000 since he wasn't going to be able to return. Hall was fired that month, too. Hogan was supposed to be under contract until May 2002 but got out of it well before that. Nash was signed through the end of 2001 and refused a buyout, which is why he didn't sign with WWE until January 2002. TNA signed Hogan in October 2009. I'm sure WWE loved that, too, because it happened right as they released a new Hogan DVD.
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Post by cjh on Jan 25, 2020 20:19:11 GMT -5
Impact would be in a better state as he would have acted as a barrier against Russo and would have prevented him gaining a toxic foothold in the company in the Dixie era. There's no way Russo is employed while he's there after his involvement in the events that led to Owen's death.Why not? They worked together in WCW, where Russo immediately started pushing Bret about 10x harder than Bischoff ever did.
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