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Post by theironyuppie on Jan 27, 2020 3:07:20 GMT -5
The SD women’s division isn’t in a good place right now, I hope they can turn it around.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2020 3:44:24 GMT -5
Her basically not having been anything above medicore at any point in time on the main roster has entirely convinced me Bayley was never actually good and NXT is just great at covering people's weaknesses.
It's become a million times worse since the heel turn. She's just awful in every way imaginable. She looks incredibly generic, her music sucks, her matches suck, her gimmick sucks, her moveset sets, her promos suck, it's all terrible. As bad as Lacey is I'd have given her the belt in a heartbeat with current Bayley as the alternative.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jan 27, 2020 5:46:59 GMT -5
I'm dreading the direction of the SD women's division right now. I know a lot of people don't like Lacey but at least she was fresh and was getting over as a face. Now with her pretty much done after tonight who are they going to go with? It's either Dana or Carmella neither of which are exciting to say the least or Alexa against Bayley for the 18th billionth time but only with the roles reversed. I guess this is what happens when you refuse to elevate anyone and just keep going with the same five girls you've been pushing for the last four years.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 27, 2020 5:49:50 GMT -5
I'm feeling Lacey more than I used to, but when Evans is your contender, it doesn't speak to roster depth. They really botched any sort of balance there. Probably shouldn't have booked Becky and Charlotte at everyone's expense over the last 12-14 months
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 27, 2020 6:05:45 GMT -5
I'm feeling Lacey more than I used to, but when Evans is your contender, it doesn't speak to roster depth. They really botched any sort of balance there. Probably shouldn't have booked Becky and Charlotte at everyone's expense over the last 12-14 months You're not wrong. I mean, at least Bayley got to put one over Charlotte at several turns, but between Sasha and Alexa's iffy health status at any given time, Nia being out and to a lesser extent Ruby, etc, they just really don't have a lot of main roster women currently who have been treated with much credibility who are around to be used. Lacey's trying, and Natalya's aging out of it, if not in years in her life, years in the ring. Shayna winning the Rumble probably would have helped matters, but it'd be a band-aid on its own, not reconstructive surgery.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jan 27, 2020 7:13:45 GMT -5
Probably shouldn't have booked Becky and Charlotte at everyone's expense over the last 12-14 months You're not wrong. I mean, at least Bayley got to put one over Charlotte at several turns, but between Sasha and Alexa's iffy health status at any given time, Nia being out and to a lesser extent Ruby, etc, they just really don't have a lot of main roster women currently who have been treated with much credibility who are around to be used. Lacey's trying, and Natalya's aging out of it, if not in years in her life, years in the ring. Shayna winning the Rumble probably would have helped matters, but it'd be a band-aid on its own, not reconstructive surgery. It's really mind boggling that still can't decide whether to shit or get off the pot with Mandy Rose especially with how desperate they are for new top stars. Looks like a million bucks and is decent enough as far as intangibles goes and yet over two years later she really hasn't accomplished anything. I guess they feel she's not ready but I think she's more ready then Alexa and more so Carmella when they got their mega pushes. It seemed like they were trying to get Lacey to that next level but after tonight it looks like it's back to the drawing board when it comes to her. The whole division is just so freaking stale right now and is really in dire need of someone to get elevated. The state of the division is almost exactly the same as it was three years ago. 4HW and Alexa as their top girls and Natalya/Carmella/Nia/Naomi as the second tier girls who get title bumps every once in a while.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 27, 2020 7:15:06 GMT -5
You're not wrong. I mean, at least Bayley got to put one over Charlotte at several turns, but between Sasha and Alexa's iffy health status at any given time, Nia being out and to a lesser extent Ruby, etc, they just really don't have a lot of main roster women currently who have been treated with much credibility who are around to be used. Lacey's trying, and Natalya's aging out of it, if not in years in her life, years in the ring. Shayna winning the Rumble probably would have helped matters, but it'd be a band-aid on its own, not reconstructive surgery. It's really mind boggling that still can't decide whether to shit or get off the pot with Mandy Rose especially with how desperate they are for new top stars. Looks like a million bucks and is decent enough as far as intangibles goes and yet over two years later she really hasn't accomplished anything. I guess they feel she's not ready but I think she's more ready then Alexa and more so Carmella when they got their mega pushes. It seemed like they were trying to get Lacey to that next level but after tonight it looks like it's back to the drawing board when it comes to her. The whole division is just so freaking stale right now and is really in dire need of someone to get elevated. The state of the division is almost exactly the same as it was three years ago. 4HW and Alexa as their top girls and Natalya/Carmella/Nia/Naomi as the second tier girls who get title bumps every once in a while. Mandy and Sonya probably at least have a solid shot of becoming tag champions. Not that is means an enormous amount or anything, but I guess it's not chopped liver, either.
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Post by King Devitt: Scrum Guzzler on Jan 27, 2020 7:17:56 GMT -5
I fast forwarded so I assume it was as bad as I expected.
I was honestly surprised to see Bayley retain.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jan 27, 2020 7:41:44 GMT -5
It's really mind boggling that still can't decide whether to shit or get off the pot with Mandy Rose especially with how desperate they are for new top stars. Looks like a million bucks and is decent enough as far as intangibles goes and yet over two years later she really hasn't accomplished anything. I guess they feel she's not ready but I think she's more ready then Alexa and more so Carmella when they got their mega pushes. It seemed like they were trying to get Lacey to that next level but after tonight it looks like it's back to the drawing board when it comes to her. The whole division is just so freaking stale right now and is really in dire need of someone to get elevated. The state of the division is almost exactly the same as it was three years ago. 4HW and Alexa as their top girls and Natalya/Carmella/Nia/Naomi as the second tier girls who get title bumps every once in a while. Mandy and Sonya probably at least have a solid shot of becoming tag champions. Not that is means an enormous amount or anything, but I guess it's not chopped liver, either. The IIconics were tag team champions. IMO that makes it an accomplishment less then chopped liver considering how little the company thinks of those two.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 27, 2020 7:47:51 GMT -5
Mandy and Sonya probably at least have a solid shot of becoming tag champions. Not that is means an enormous amount or anything, but I guess it's not chopped liver, either. The IIconics were tag team champions. IMO that makes it an accomplishment less then chopped liver considering how little the company thinks of those two. They were champions, sure, but winning the belts did also get Asuka and Kairi was more usage than they had prior to winning them, so that kinda balances it out.
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