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Post by wildojinx on Jan 25, 2020 16:05:35 GMT -5
Let's say Vince finally gets fed up with all of HBK's shenanigans and releases him, and he goes to WCW. What happens next? While from a fan standpoint we get dream matches against Benoit, Eddie, Rey, Malenko, Jericho, and eventually Hogan and Sting, knowing how much of a jerk he was at the time (something that Michaels himself will admit to), he would not be well-liked in the locker room, except around Nash, Hall, and Waltman. OTOH, if he still meets Whisper and eventually turns his life around, we could get a happier ending, plus, he doesnt fall on Taker's casket, putting him out of action for a time. One still wonders if WCW shuts down, and if so, would he go back to WWE with the rest of the NWO? Would he eventually make up with Bret (who would have no reason to leave)? One also wonders if WWF still exists, or if the attitude era and the mainstream success still happens (Vince could probably just use the money he saves from letting HBK go to still get Tyson, so that's no problem, but do we still get Austin vs McMahon?).
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Jan 25, 2020 16:13:22 GMT -5
1997 Shawn would have been a nightmare for WCW. Back with Hall and Nash and causing backstage issues, I’d imagine a lot of talent would have been begging for their release with The Kliq and Hogan around.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Jan 25, 2020 16:18:10 GMT -5
And I might argue that injuring his back was the best thing that happened to Shawn. He needed to be away from wrestling for a while and if he was still on the road I don’t think he would have cleaned up his act and quite possibly have gone the way of so many other wrestlers.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 25, 2020 16:40:51 GMT -5
Without Vince to reign him in dude would have run completely wild. Either an early death, or retiring as the most hated guy backstage in wrestling history and then an early death is my guess.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jan 25, 2020 16:51:33 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan gets displaced.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Jan 25, 2020 16:54:15 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan gets displaced. Shawn couldn't beat old, way past his prime Hogan at politics in 2003, he would have been eaten alive by Hogan in 97.
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Post by petef3 on Jan 25, 2020 16:54:32 GMT -5
Even with Shawn having backup I would not bet against Hogan in a political war at any time from about 1990-2008. When they faced off in the WWE years later, Hogan ate Shawn for lunch. Nash and Hall weren't around but HHH certainly was, and it didn't do anything for him.
Edit: Yeah, what Repressed Nerd said.
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Jan 25, 2020 17:00:37 GMT -5
Remember how well WCW used Bret Hart?
It would be like that but with more drugs.
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Post by auph10imitated on Jan 25, 2020 17:15:51 GMT -5
The majority of his time would have been clowning around in 10 year long interview segments with Hogan, Hall and Nash. He would have barely worked an in ring schedule. Non of those dream matches in the original thread would have happened as guys like Benoit and Guerrero were mid card in 1997. It would have been an absolute mess
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Post by Sad sack ass fruitbooty on Jan 25, 2020 17:26:49 GMT -5
Faceless NWO member #73, who walks around in the background cracking jokes with Scott Norton and Vincent while Hogan is front and center dude, jack and steroiding it up with the same tired garbage while that waste of ball juice Bitchoff holds the microphone grinning while dreaming of the ways Hollywood will violate his rear end that evening.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 25, 2020 17:29:29 GMT -5
And I might argue that injuring his back was the best thing that happened to Shawn. He needed to be away from wrestling for a while and if he was still on the road I don’t think he would have cleaned up his act and quite possibly have gone the way of so many other wrestlers. Yeah... as morbid as it is what would have happened if Shawn went to WCW... my guess is he'd probably be dead. From a wrestling stand point... I could see him getting into a second in command type spot for the NWO with Nash staying mostly tag with Hall. Hogan would still be the center star of the NWO.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Jan 25, 2020 17:56:42 GMT -5
The flip side of this to consider is: with Shawn gone, would Bret have stayed in the WWF? This would butterfly away Montreal, after all. So we’ve got a WWF going into 1998 with no DX, but Bret and the Hart Foundation still going, and Austin still on the rise, while Vince continues to try to steer the WWF product into the Attitude Era. Would Bret have remained a fixture of the main event, or would his disapproval of the Attitude Era product have caused problems?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 18:04:37 GMT -5
Hate to sound so morbid, but he might be dead of a drug overdose.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 25, 2020 18:47:38 GMT -5
Hulkster - "That ain't gonna work for me brotha"
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 25, 2020 18:49:21 GMT -5
I don't think Shawn would have died under WCW's watch, but the run would likely have killed him. He would find himself with no leverage over Bischoff, with no way out aside from being fired, and then he wouldn't be able to waltz back to the WWF without a lawsuit until the end of his deal. You'd have a miserable Shawn with Scott Hall by his side to drink and pop pills with, with little hope of getting above the US level while Hogan is in power, his demons getting bigger and bigger until WCW finally collapses, then he's unleashed onto the indy scene with a drug problem he can't shake and the WWE don't want him any more than they wanted Jake Roberts or Marty Jannetty.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 25, 2020 18:58:33 GMT -5
Probably both him and Hall dead. They were bad enough on their own. Running together would have made it worse.
Whatever would have happened wouldn’t have been happy.
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Post by Laces on Jan 25, 2020 19:01:34 GMT -5
I agree with a lot of the people here, if Shawn had jumped ship...He'd be dead.
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Post by wildojinx on Jan 25, 2020 19:21:22 GMT -5
The flip side of this to consider is: with Shawn gone, would Bret have stayed in the WWF? This would butterfly away Montreal, after all. So we’ve got a WWF going into 1998 with no DX, but Bret and the Hart Foundation still going, and Austin still on the rise, while Vince continues to try to steer the WWF product into the Attitude Era. Would Bret have remained a fixture of the main event, or would his disapproval of the Attitude Era product have caused problems? Bret likely would have lost the title to Austin at WMXIV, then either stay heel or go back to a face fighting off Neidhart, Owen, and Bulldog, maybe even allying himself with some other faces. As for the product, it probably would have gotten more hard-hitting, but less hyper-sexual.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Jan 25, 2020 21:46:09 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan gets displaced. Shawn couldn't beat old, way past his prime Hogan at politics in 2003, he would have been eaten alive by Hogan in 97. That's my take on it. Mid-to-late-90s Shawn, even at his political zenith, would run into a brick wall with 97 Hogan. The flip side of this to consider is: with Shawn gone, would Bret have stayed in the WWF? This would butterfly away Montreal, after all. So we’ve got a WWF going into 1998 with no DX, but Bret and the Hart Foundation still going, and Austin still on the rise, while Vince continues to try to steer the WWF product into the Attitude Era. Would Bret have remained a fixture of the main event, or would his disapproval of the Attitude Era product have caused problems? Bret likely would have lost the title to Austin at WMXIV, then either stay heel or go back to a face fighting off Neidhart, Owen, and Bulldog, maybe even allying himself with some other faces. As for the product, it probably would have gotten more hard-hitting, but less hyper-sexual. I could even see Bret as Vince's handpicked corporate champion, plus you have built-in history with Bret and Austin, so it's win-win.
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Post by hassanchop on Jan 25, 2020 23:32:16 GMT -5
Eric Bischoff gets fired from Turner much earlier for the chaos caused by the Kliq and Eric finds it a blessing in disguise as he got fed up with HBK’s bull. Until he gets brought back, and how Russo would handle years down the road, I assume Shawn finds religion much earlier, and Russo turns it into an angle, until the network plugs due to controversy. Yew know.
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