Futureraven: Beelzebruv
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 28, 2020 11:23:24 GMT -5
I like AC Milan's twist on this.
They retired Paolo Maldini's shirt after a spectacular career, never leaving the club in 25 years.
But they'll reuse it if one of his sons becomes a regular, his older son, not so much but his younger one is coming through at the moment.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Feb 28, 2020 16:33:27 GMT -5
I’m fine with it if the player truly is synonymous with the team. All time great? Had a long career with the team? Go for it and retire their number.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 1, 2020 4:47:22 GMT -5
I only don't care for it if they were there for a cup of coffee or something.
Babe Ruth's number being retired for the Yankees as opposed to the Braves for instance.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Mar 5, 2020 1:59:05 GMT -5
I don’t mind it if the guy is a huge legend, but it seems like they do it way too often now, just to have the ceremony. I only follow hockey but a lot of guys got a retired number that probably don’t deserve it.
The Oilers retired #4 for Kevin Lowe. One day they drafted Taylor Hall and he asked for permission to wear 4. Lowe granted it. Then Hall split and Kris Russell wears it now. So I guess, easy come, easy go as far as retired numbers.
I do like what the Canucks did and took 11 and 28 out of circulation for guys who died wearing it as members of the team. They’re not retired but you can’t wear them. Unless you’re Messier who demanded it and was another reason he didn’t endear himself to Vancouver for his run there.
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Post by Triangle Lancer on Nov 20, 2020 7:01:57 GMT -5
I'm in favor of the Ring of Honor for team heroes and borderline greats that meant a lot to the organization. Only so many numbers to go around.
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 20, 2020 9:50:21 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of the concept "Being special is what makes it special". Having like 1-3 numbers retired shows that these three people were special. Having 10+ numbers retired is just a list of people that were great.
That's why I prefer "Ring of Honor" or "*insert team name here* Hall of Fame" rather than retiring numbers.
I'll give a pretend example of what I mean: For the Bulls I'd only retire Jordan's number. Everybody else that even sniffs that honor would be a in "Bulls Ring of Honor"
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Nov 20, 2020 11:14:32 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of the concept "Being special is what makes it special". Having like 1-3 numbers retired shows that these three people were special. Having 10+ numbers retired is just a list of people that were great. That's why I prefer "Ring of Honor" or "*insert team name here* Hall of Fame" rather than retiring numbers. I'll give a pretend example of what I mean: For the Bulls I'd only retire Jordan's number. Everybody else that even sniffs that honor would be a in "Bulls Ring of Honor" Even Scottie Pippen?
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Post by Triangle Lancer on Nov 21, 2020 6:51:08 GMT -5
I only don't care for it if they were there for a cup of coffee or something. Babe Ruth's number being retired for the Yankees as opposed to the Braves for instance. Weirdest thing I've seen was a guy at work wearing a powder blue Braves "shirt-sey" with a 3 on it. I see it and think, "Oh cool, a Dale Murphy! I'd get that!" So as I am about to approach him about where he got it, he turned around. It had "Ruth" on the back. I was flummoxed.
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Nov 21, 2020 9:41:22 GMT -5
Nobody is worse than the Yankees. They are going to have to start giving out spring training numbers, although all the single digit numbers DO deserve to be retired. I'm looking through their list of retired numbers and having a hard time coming up with which ones should be unretired. Of all of them, you could make the case to make available Don Mattingly's no. 23, as he is the lone Yankee to have a retired number who never won a World Series. He was a big fish in a small pond as the lone star of those lousy 1980s and early 1990s Yankees squads and he never really came close to being a Hall of Famer. That said, I know a number of Yankees fans who would flip the f**k out if the organization decided to unretire Mattingly's number, as he was the bridge between the dynasties of the 1970s and 1990s. Don Mattingly's number is retired because of his awesome sideburns. As an english person, retiring numbers is stupid. Especially because you know that if it's a dealbreaker for a star to sign, they'll just unretire that number. There's also am argument to be made that it's hardly an honour when top young prospects are not allowed to wear a number, while playing for the team, but anyone can buy a shirt with it on to wear to do whatever they want with. If they're truly retiring it, they shouldn't sell it and should ban fans from wearing their old shirts in the venue.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Nov 21, 2020 12:39:38 GMT -5
The Colts had a earlier this season where they called up a practice squad member to the main roster and assigned him the number 12, Andrew Luck’s old number. He thought that was bad form and asked for another and was told that a combination of league rules and retired numbers meant that was his only choice. By NFL rules, receivers can only wear numbers 10-19 and 80-89. All of the numbers in that range was either in use by a player already on the roster or had been retired.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Nov 21, 2020 12:54:21 GMT -5
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Nov 21, 2020 16:32:28 GMT -5
The Kings retired Vlade Divac’s number. They need to have an unretirement ceremony where it’s yanked from the rafters and burned. Then it can be a banned number, because fxxx Vlade Divac.
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