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Post by Alexander The So-so on Apr 13, 2020 8:18:21 GMT -5
Fingerpoke of Doom. I still dug the Hollywood vs Wolfpac split in ‘98, and was going along with it. The Fingerpoke was when I finally threw up my hands that nothing would ever change.
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Post by cabbageboy on Apr 13, 2020 8:28:51 GMT -5
Man, everyone lost interest a long time after I did. By that I mean the time I would watch Nitro first and largely ignore Raw. I pretty much gave up on the NWO as something I would be glued to the screen watching around the build of SuperBrawl in 1997. The whole "Piper in Alcatraz" deal was incredibly lame, as was Savage's heel turn to join the NWO after being beaten down every week on TV for months. It also didn't help that I quickly realized that the NWO angle was going nowhere fast and Sting was going to skulk for the next 6 months before any build to Starrcade.
Keep in mind around April 1997 is when Raw finally expanded to 2 hours and became a far better show than it had been.
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Post by chronocross on Apr 13, 2020 8:34:41 GMT -5
For me, it was early 1999 when they did the Fingerpoke of Doom. Especially when the nWo Wolfpac Elite group only lasted a couple of months as Hogan would be a face by March and Nash would turn back face in April.
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Post by bob on Apr 13, 2020 8:53:13 GMT -5
finger poke of doom
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Apr 13, 2020 9:10:23 GMT -5
When Dusty Rhodes joined. I mean, why?
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Post by H-Virus on Apr 13, 2020 9:26:30 GMT -5
After Starrcade 97, when it became clear that no one was ever truly going to defeat them. Driven home later on when Goldberg crushed Hogan they still wouldn’t go away.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 13, 2020 10:49:24 GMT -5
the nWo Black & White vs nWo Wolfpac stuff. I wouldn't even call it an angle.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 10:55:42 GMT -5
Hard to say, my brain tries its best to forget the order of wrestlers joining this stable..
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Post by edgestar on Apr 13, 2020 11:13:34 GMT -5
When my neighbors became members Did they spraypaint your doors and lawn dart you into the side of your house? Not my favorite thing to talk about, but, yes.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Apr 13, 2020 11:20:20 GMT -5
I would say SuperBrawl IX. I thought the splitting into the two factions gave it some new life. The Fingerpoke was irritating, but the two months of TV after it was actually very good in my opinion. The nWo had some real heat for the first time in like a year or more and they positioned all of the best babyfaces up against the NWO: Goldberg, Flair, DDP, the Horseman, Rey Mysterio, Konnan etc. And then at SuperBrawl, the NWO won every match they were in. After that, my watching of WCW went way down for the rest of the history of the company. I was just tired of always being disappointed at the end of big angles. I only remember seeing it a few times after that point.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 13, 2020 11:23:54 GMT -5
The moment Starrcade 97 ended and it was really obvious that they weren't going anywhere
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Post by lildude8218 on Apr 13, 2020 11:24:40 GMT -5
2017
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Post by bmfjules on Apr 13, 2020 11:28:53 GMT -5
It was gradual.
In 1996 everything they did, even when it didn't make sense sometimes, was new and exciting.
Through most of 1997 things were still exciting as you had the Crow Sting deal gaining steam, and even as membership swelled up, for the most part everything was still somewhat logical and the war was still interesting.
In 1998, Goldberg got hot and yes the NWO Wolfpac vs NWO Hollywood deal was stupid BUT those Wolfpack T-shirts were big sellers and that group was over. What they did to Sting and Bret Hart in 1998 is without a doubt the most criminally retarded piece of booking ever--both of those guys started the year as guys who could draw you a million dollars on top and ended the year as midcarders.... but momentum was still there. The consequences of the bad decisions had not arrived yet.
In 1999 those consequences came and they came hard. That said, as a fan I was kind of excited and interested after the Fingerpoke of Doom. The NWO supergroup that formed after made for some compelling television. What KILLED that interest was Goldberg getting hurt and then all the big stars slowly fading out of TV and then you have a big vacuum. So I guess there is the answer. About two or three months into 1999 when the big NWO reunion storyline just fizzled out.... WCW never recovered from that and the show never looked the same again in terms of excitement or fan interest.
By the time Jeff Jarrett and the Harris Twins joined in 2000 (which again was a result of a less interesting but still halfway interesting revamping with Bret Hart fizzling out), they were just beating up on a corpse by then.
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Post by bmfjules on Apr 13, 2020 11:36:23 GMT -5
I would say SuperBrawl IX. I thought the splitting into the two factions gave it some new life. The Fingerpoke was irritating, but the two months of TV after it was actually very good in my opinion. The nWo had some real heat for the first time in like a year or more and they positioned all of the best babyfaces up against the NWO: Goldberg, Flair, DDP, the Horseman, Rey Mysterio, Konnan etc. And then at SuperBrawl, the NWO won every match they were in. After that, my watching of WCW went way down for the rest of the history of the company. I was just tired of always being disappointed at the end of big angles. I only remember seeing it a few times after that point. People always bag on Russo, and rightfully so, that he produced great beginnings with horrible follow ups, but really, WCW was doing that long before him. Every single major successful WCW storyline, whether it was the rise of the NWO, the rise of and title reign of Goldberg, Crow Sting, the arrival of Bret Hart, the NWO vs NWO deal, and the NWO reunion angle---every single one of those angles were ruined with a crappy ending or a non-ending and all of that was well before Vince Russo arrived in mid 1999.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 13, 2020 11:51:27 GMT -5
I'm watching the April 1997 Nitro's & they're already doing the "nwo is in disaray!" stuff. They dragged that on for years.
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Post by 4real on Apr 13, 2020 12:06:11 GMT -5
I didn’t watch it at the time but watching back on the Network I lost interest when Hogan turned face & Flair heel in early 99. Once DDP turned heel that was it for me I’d had enough and I stopped watching.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 13, 2020 12:13:54 GMT -5
Starrcade 97
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 13, 2020 12:37:34 GMT -5
I'm watching the April 1997 Nitro's & they're already doing the "nwo is in disaray!" stuff. They dragged that on for years. To be fair, they kinda had to at least show a little vulnerability by that point, as the nWo had pretty much run train on everyone for the better part of the previous 9 or so months
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Post by Milkman Norm on Apr 13, 2020 12:38:58 GMT -5
I'm watching the April 1997 Nitro's & they're already doing the "nwo is in disaray!" stuff. They dragged that on for years. To be fair, they kinda had to at least show a little vulnerability by that point, as the nWo had pretty much run train on everyone for the better part of the previous 9 or so months It wasn't that it started then its that it went on and on and on and on and on and on... until 1998 with no advances in the angle. They bickered with each other but that bickering never lead to a payoff with the WCW babyfaces beating them.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Apr 13, 2020 12:43:12 GMT -5
To be fair, they kinda had to at least show a little vulnerability by that point, as the nWo had pretty much run train on everyone for the better part of the previous 9 or so months It wasn't that it started then its that it went on and on and on and on and on and on... until 1998 with no advances in the angle. They bickered with each other but that bickering never lead to a payoff with the WCW babyfaces beating them. Right. Which goes back to my above post saying Starrcade 97 should have been the end of them.
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