MolotovMocktail
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Apr 17, 2020 16:30:19 GMT -5
Got expelled from his high school too. You love to see it! Not to justify what he said (I didn’t see it and can’t comment), but can the school even do that? It’s pretty well established that students can’t be punished for off-campus speech.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Apr 17, 2020 16:31:08 GMT -5
I was going to say I had never heard of him so he might not get much work, but it seems like he'll get even less after COVID is done.
Glad to see that's likely the case.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 17, 2020 16:34:49 GMT -5
It’s pretty well established that students can’t be punished for off-campus speech. That's not true.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 17, 2020 16:35:56 GMT -5
Jesus, thought it was the OSW guy for a second. Have edited the title to clarify.
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Post by XIII on Apr 17, 2020 16:36:20 GMT -5
fastest rising star in wrestling... not anymore guessing they uploaded it themselves, why is there this compulsion in racists to out themselves like this? Does it not enter his mind how much it would will destroy his career Don’t care. I’m all for racist idiots outing themselves, makes it easier to know their views and to nullify their opinions.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Apr 17, 2020 16:48:07 GMT -5
It’s pretty well established that students can’t be punished for off-campus speech. That's not true. I looked it up, and, it’s kind of an “it depends” scenario. The Supreme Court has not given a general rule on off-campus speech (somehow I thought they did, back in the pre-Internet days), and appellate courts have been divided, though mostly siding with the school when the content could be deemed threatening. Did this guy threaten violence against anyone, or was it just ranting and slurs like Hogan?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 17, 2020 16:52:58 GMT -5
I looked it up, and, it’s kind of an “it depends” scenario. The Supreme Court has not given a general rule on off-campus speech (somehow I thought they did, back in the pre-Internet days), and appellate courts have been divided, though mostly siding with the school when the content could be deemed threatening. Did this guy threaten violence against anyone, or was it just ranting and slurs like Hogan? So like I said, it's not true. If you want to discuss the video, I advise watching it.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Apr 17, 2020 16:54:07 GMT -5
I looked it up, and, it’s kind of an “it depends” scenario. The Supreme Court has not given a general rule on off-campus speech (somehow I thought they did, back in the pre-Internet days), and appellate courts have been divided, though mostly siding with the school when the content could be deemed threatening. Did this guy threaten violence against anyone, or was it just ranting and slurs like Hogan? So like I said, it's not true. If you want to discuss the video, I advise watching it. Tried watching it, it was taken down.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 17, 2020 16:54:38 GMT -5
Here's a video parodying theirs. It might give you an idea of what went down. Just change all the words to racist stuff.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 17, 2020 16:57:01 GMT -5
So like I said, it's not true. If you want to discuss the video, I advise watching it. Tried watching it, it was taken down. If you go to twitter and type Jeffrey Hume into the search it brings up a ton of it still.
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Post by metylerca on Apr 17, 2020 16:57:56 GMT -5
Here's a video parodying theirs. It might give you an idea of what went down. Just change all the words to racist stuff. The parody is amazing, I'll say that much. This is why cancel culture is necessary at times. And yes, I also thought you meant the OSW guy.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Apr 17, 2020 17:01:54 GMT -5
Found it, and it was certainly disgusting (and the parody was well done once context was established). But is expulsion really necessary for a tasteless, juvenile stunt without any actual threats?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 17, 2020 17:04:46 GMT -5
Found it, and it was certainly disgusting (and the parody was well done once context was established). But is expulsion really necessary for a tasteless, juvenile stunt without any actual threats? Show that video to any African-Americans you know and ask them if they consider that a threat.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Apr 17, 2020 17:04:55 GMT -5
Found it, and it was certainly disgusting (and the parody was well done once context was established). But is expulsion really necessary for a tasteless, juvenile stunt without any actual threats? yes
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Apr 17, 2020 17:10:16 GMT -5
Man that wasn't even just kinda shitty teenager racist or like, cackling the N word racist, which would have both been bad. But this was like. Concentrated, intense, 'I'm gonna make sure everyone knows how shitty I am and I'll have no excuses and ways to wriggle out of it' racist. No hope of explaining it away with poor humour or bad choice of words. Just utterly vile hatred made with the firm belief in everything said in it.
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Post by salz4life on Apr 17, 2020 17:18:31 GMT -5
Got expelled from his high school too. You love to see it! Not to justify what he said (I didn’t see it and can’t comment), but can the school even do that? It’s pretty well established that students can’t be punished for off-campus speech. Not sure if it is in this situation, but from what I have seen..... parental pressure in schools can be a way to get things done. Again, maybe not in this situation.... but it’s a thing.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Apr 17, 2020 17:23:35 GMT -5
Usually when I hear someone did something racist it’s usually a dummy thinking they’re being funny and not realize the impact of what they’re doing. This though... my god. It’s not even an attempt at humor. It’s disgusting. I’m actually stunned
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Apr 17, 2020 17:27:42 GMT -5
Found it, and it was certainly disgusting (and the parody was well done once context was established). But is expulsion really necessary for a tasteless, juvenile stunt without any actual threats? There wasn’t any attempt at humor, parody or a evident event of this being anything more than someone basically using what’s considered the nuclear bomb of racial slurs and every horrible stereotype people associate with that word. This is more something you’d see on a skinhead website
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 17, 2020 17:27:52 GMT -5
Well, that's gross.
For people unsure why they'd upload this, I think something that must be remembered about bigots is, they usually don't think they have a problem. They think they are "telling it like it is", that this is how everyone truly feels, and that people who say otherwise are giving into pressure or fear of pushback.
To them, this is the "real" world, and people who try to spin themselves as "race realists", "gender realists", etc, think they're the only ones with the spines to say how the world really works. It's thoroughly gross, and it's a reason why even apologies from known racists deserve scrutiny, because it's one thing to recognize you upset people, but it's another to look at how your viewpoint had been poisoned from its very foundation.
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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Apr 17, 2020 17:31:08 GMT -5
Dude, if even Hulk Hogan couldn't get away with shit like that, what made him think he could? Hulk Hogan DID get away with that shit. WWE still treats him like a legend, and the crowd still pops for him when he shows up. So being totally blackballed for 4 years is getting away with it? Getting off easy? Sure. But it’s not like there were 0 consequences for it.
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