Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 22, 2020 18:10:55 GMT -5
I don’t think Hogan (as a babyface) would have ever jobbed to Bret, so it would have been pointless to do the match. I also think Vince lied to Bret and this match was never in the cards to begin with, but that’s another discussion. The strange thing is I do believe there was a WWF Magazine in 1993 that had a few page report on a future Bret and Hogan match. I think it was the cover with Hulk in a studio photo. I want to say May 1993 which would have been even before WrestleMania considering magazines were a few months behind. That could have just been a "what if" what no intentions though. I seem to remember a "where are they now" feature in 1996 with Demolition yet of course they weren't slated to come back. If the magazine I'm thinking of was post-1993 edition than maybe something was planned. I think what you’re remembering is a Fantasy Warfare they did for Hogan v. Bret. Bret also says and I believed has been confirmed, they shot a pictorial with each guy tugging on the belt. The last Hogan cover I recall with Hogan was the Mania 9 one with him posing with the belt....Yoko might have been on the cover pinning Hogan later on, but I’m going on almost 30 year old memories.
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Post by jason1980s on Apr 22, 2020 18:33:37 GMT -5
The last Hogan cover I recall with Hogan was the Mania 9 one with him posing with the belt....Yoko might have been on the cover pinning Hogan later on, but I’m going on almost 30 year old memories. I just did some googling and it seems the July 1993 mag (Undertaker on the cover) had a small photo of Hulk and Bret in different images with the fantasy warfare. The August magazine with Bret on the cover had a note on the left side "Bret Hart Could He Beat Hulk" so it seems odd WWF would do two issues on this without hoping an outcome. August issue would probably be May or early June coverage, perhaps before talks, if any, broke down. The August 1994 issue had Yokozuna splashing Hogan on the cover. This would have been around the time Hulk just signed with WCW. There was a tombstone on one of the inside pages as if Yoko killed Hulk's career.
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Crappler El 0 M
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Apr 22, 2020 18:58:23 GMT -5
Bret claims they had tug-of-war photo shoot for SummerSlam.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Apr 22, 2020 20:06:11 GMT -5
If Hogan pulled his finger out this could've potentially be decent. I'd have perhaps booked Hogan as more of a powerhouse/hard-hitting wrestler than usual, and emphasised that going into the match. So it would rely on these two totally different wrestlers being able to use their respective strengths against their opponent, Hogan knowing that if Hart turned it into a wrestling match he'd have him beaten so trying to out-power him, and Hart knowing that Hogan can muscle him out of the match so trying to tie him up with his scientific ability.
Just off the top of my head you could have Hogan control the early part of the match with power moves before making a mistake that allows the wily Hart to turn the tide and out-wrestle Hogan, then Hogan does the big comeback only for it to not go as planned somehow and he ends up getting rolled up for the pinfall. He doesn't have to submit, his finish is protected (because it never happens), and he doesn't really look weak because he still controlled the early part and still got his big comeback in.
I'll have to give this more thought at some point.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Apr 22, 2020 20:29:46 GMT -5
Even if Bret lost dirty, a competitive match would have elevated his star. But that would require Hogan to work vulnerable.
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Post by mauled on Apr 23, 2020 0:47:09 GMT -5
Bret claims they had tug-of-war photo shoot for SummerSlam. Bruce Prichard confirmed it
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Apr 23, 2020 9:01:11 GMT -5
Only way I see Bret not getting pinned by the Legdrop is by rope-break. As for winning, playing possum and a surprise Small Package ala Bret/Diesel might work.
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salz4life
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Post by salz4life on Apr 23, 2020 10:31:33 GMT -5
Hogan must pose.......
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Post by dirtyoldman on Apr 23, 2020 15:49:54 GMT -5
Bret claims they had tug-of-war photo shoot for SummerSlam. I must be suffering from sever Mandela effect as I'm near certain I saw that picture in the WWF magazine. Although for years I was convinced Harvey wiliman broke the pin Hogan made over Sid this saving the true ending. It wasn't until I saw osw and saw he just stood on the apron and sid kicked out
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Apr 23, 2020 15:54:35 GMT -5
Bret claims they had tug-of-war photo shoot for SummerSlam. I must be suffering from sever Mandela effect as I'm near certain I saw that picture in the WWF magazine. Although for years I was convinced Harvey wiliman broke the pin Hogan made over Sid this saving the true ending. It wasn't until I saw osw and saw he just stood on the apron and sid kicked out Come to think of it, he said it was a tug-of-war where they both grab the WWF Championship. Don't think any pics or clips of this shoot have ever come out, but Bret mentioned it to reporters back in 1993, so it's not something he claimed years after the fact.
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Post by dirtyoldman on Apr 23, 2020 18:15:13 GMT -5
I think they did a comparison of the two in one magazine, with Hogan on one page and Bret on the other. That could probably be why my memory is mixed up.
I do remember they did the same with Yokozuna and Adam Bomb
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Post by thegame415 on Apr 24, 2020 12:42:00 GMT -5
"Look, dude, I agreed to the match, but Bret came into about 50 pounds lighter. I said brother, how can anyone buy that his dude can beat me? Let me just drop the strap back to Rikishi. This was before he started doing the butt in people's faces thing."
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Post by evilone on Apr 24, 2020 13:02:31 GMT -5
If Hogan had a good day and didn't go with that doesn't work with me brother than it would most likely end up with Yoko's interference to attack Hogan and make Hogan a winner by dq and make Hogan once again a centerpiece.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Apr 24, 2020 16:30:26 GMT -5
I may do a podcast with a friend about this
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 24, 2020 16:46:38 GMT -5
"That doesn't work for me, brother", Big Boot and Leg Drop.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 24, 2020 16:53:32 GMT -5
"That doesn't work for me, brother", Big Boot and Leg Drop. Even Hogan wouldn't likely get his way if he tried that. Vince obviously caved for Hogan a lot, but their relationship was at a straining point and Vince badly needed to make Bret. At best, they run some injury angle to call off the match and give Hogan Yoko, anyway, or something like that, but I don't think Hogan beating Bret clean was on the menu.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 24, 2020 17:27:02 GMT -5
"That doesn't work for me, brother", Big Boot and Leg Drop. Even Hogan wouldn't likely get his way if he tried that. Vince obviously caved for Hogan a lot, but their relationship was at a straining point and Vince badly needed to make Bret. At best, they run some injury angle to call off the match and give Hogan Yoko, anyway, or something like that, but I don't think Hogan beating Bret clean was on the menu. Probably. I was mostly joking.
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