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Post by Spider2024 on Jun 14, 2020 21:07:49 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 14, 2020 21:08:11 GMT -5
Not sure where Edge got hurt There was one spot where he fell grabbing the ropes that might've done it? It looked like that spot that injured Drew in NXT. Otherwise I kinda wonder if it was some #meta stuff to write Edge off.. I thought he could got hurt when he jumped on Randy when he was on the apron and fell on the outside
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Post by mistery on Jun 14, 2020 21:08:23 GMT -5
Has there ever been a point when a WWE main PPV wiped the floor with its most recent Takeover counterpart? Because that just happened with this and IYH. In terms of mens action, yes. Women's action, NXT still has that clear edge. And always will as long as the main roster continues to push women like Nia.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 14, 2020 21:08:32 GMT -5
Has there ever been a point when a WWE main PPV wiped the floor with its most recent Takeover counterpart? Because that just happened with this and IYH. It has been a long time since that happened
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jun 14, 2020 21:10:30 GMT -5
Like. That’s wrestling to me.
Its a simple story with a devastating ending. It’s not overloaded with dramaaaaaaatic moooooments. The story is told in the post match and with bits in the match.
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Post by ayumidah on Jun 14, 2020 21:10:47 GMT -5
all I can really think of regarding Edge's injury is maybe they used a camera angle where it wasn't obvious how or when it happened, but I'm not sure.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 14, 2020 21:11:01 GMT -5
Kudos to them. It's not my favorite match this-year, much less "ever", but this was quite possibly my favorite WWE match this year. They put enormous pressure on themselves to deliver, and I'd say they rose to the occasion.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jun 14, 2020 21:12:38 GMT -5
I'm in bizarro world, a WWE show did what a NXT show couldn't and left me buzzing afterward.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Jun 14, 2020 21:13:55 GMT -5
Like. That’s wrestling to me. Its a simple story with a devastating ending. It’s not overloaded with dramaaaaaaatic moooooments. The story is told in the post match and with bits in the match. I'd argue it was loaded with dramatic moments, but none of it felt forced. Every piece of drama in that match felt earned and natural.
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Post by EZ: Brainy Bae on Jun 14, 2020 21:14:27 GMT -5
Has there ever been a point when a WWE main PPV wiped the floor with its most recent Takeover counterpart? Because that just happened with this and IYH. Probably Summerslam 2017 Monster 4Way >>>> Roode/Drew EDIT: wrong year
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 14, 2020 21:15:29 GMT -5
Like. That’s wrestling to me. Its a simple story with a devastating ending. It’s not overloaded with dramaaaaaaatic moooooments. The story is told in the post match and with bits in the match. I'd argue it was loaded with dramatic moments, but none of it felt forced. Every piece of drama in that match felt earned and natural. And a ton of callbacks to other matches like Christian/Orton and their series
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jun 14, 2020 21:16:10 GMT -5
Like. That’s wrestling to me. Its a simple story with a devastating ending. It’s not overloaded with dramaaaaaaatic moooooments. The story is told in the post match and with bits in the match. I'd argue it was loaded with dramatic moments, but none of it felt forced. Every piece of drama in that match felt earned and natural. Oh it had drama but nothing like stopping the match entirely to stare and point at things. It was all woven in to the flow of things.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 21:24:08 GMT -5
Why does Lana have a job? Shes useless. Because she signed a contract She's still f***ing useless.
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Post by hbkid718 on Jun 14, 2020 21:27:51 GMT -5
Overall a really good Backlash PPV. Apollo Crews VS Andrade was great US Title Match on the Kickoff Show. The opening video was really good. I liked Sasha Banks & Bayley’s promo before their match. The Women’s Triple Threat Match was really good. All 3 teams did great. Even though the entire angle leading to the match was disgusting & inappropriate, Hardy VS Sheamus was a great match. OK promo with Miz & Morrison, & Otis. Asuka VS Nia Jax was a horrible match with an even worse finish. Braun Strowman VS The Miz & Morrison was a nothing match. AJ Styles’ promo was OK. McIntyre VS Lashley was an excellent match. I predict them doing a Submission Match at Extreme Rules. I was actually looking forward to finally seeing Street Profits VS Viking Raiders in a wrestling match. Thank you for wasting my time getting the facts for this match for no reason. What a embarrassing segment for 5 great wrestlers and a waste of an amazing wrestler in Akira Tozawa. I love the intros for Edge VS Orton, using Fink’s voice, the old school MSG mic & Charles Robinson wearing the old school ref uniform. Besides the unnecessary blood, Edge VS Orton was a fun match. It wasn’t the greatest match ever, but it was close. They could have done it live and it wouldn't have mattered. The NXT Crowd was good, but I didn't care about the piped in noise. It sucks that Edge really got hurt. Also, Samoa Joe was great on commentary. Here is the Complete History of BacklashHere are the Facts & Stats for Backlash: - This was the 1st Backlash event since 2018. If someone competed in 2018 and will be competing again in 2020, I will count it as their 2nd Backlash in a row, even though it was not in consecutive years, the 1st Backlash since it returned in 2016 that Carmella will not be wrestling, the 1st Backlash since 2017 to not have an Intercontinental Title Match, & the 2nd Backlash event in a row to not have a Men’s Tag Team Championship Match - This was the 1st PPV of 2020 that Kofi Kingston, Seth Rollins, & AJ Styles did not compete on, the 1st PPV of 2020 since Elimination Chamber on March 8 to not have a Smackdown Women’s Championship Match, the 2nd PPV in a row to not have a Men’s Tag Team or Intercontinental Championship Match, & the 1st PPV since the Royal Rumble on January 26 to not have a Smackdown Tag Team Championship Match - Besides Edge VS Randy Orton and Braun Strowman VS The Miz & John Morrison, every match on the card had at least 1 or more wrestlers making their Backlash PPV debut, making it the 1st PPV of 2020 to have the most debuts - Apollo Crews VS Andrade was the 9th United States Championship Match of 2020, the 1st since Raw on June 1, & will be the 5th United States Title Match in Backlash History & 3rd Backlash event in a row, Crews’ 2nd Backlash match & Kickoff Match & 1st since 2016, his 1st Title Match at Backlash, & will be his 1st PPV since a Battle Royal at Crown Jewel on October 31, 2019, & his 1st Singles Match on PPV since he lost to Murphy at SummerSlam on August 11, 2019, his 2nd Title Defense, & since he won he wasn’t the 1st United States Champion since Kofi Kingston who lost his title to Dean Ambrose at Extreme Rules on May 19, 2013 to lose the title in his 2nd defense, Andrade’s Backlash debut, making him the 1st wrestler since MVP in 2007 to make his Backlash debut challenging for the US Title, his 1st PPV since Elimination Chamber on March 8, & was the 6th 1-on-1 Match between Crews & Andrade, with their 1st match taking place on Smackdown on July 2, 2019, which was won by Andrade & their last match prior to Backlash taking place on Raw on June 1, 2020, which was won by Crews, so in their now 6 matches against each other, Crews won 3 & Andrade has won 3, was both Crews & Andrade’s 1st PPV opener of 2020, was the 18th Kickoff Match in Backlash History & 13th event in a row, & was the 1st Title Match on the Kickoff since a Light Heavyweight Title in 2001, & since the title was retained, the US Title hasn’t change hands at Backlash since 2008 when Matt Hardy defeated MVP - Alexa Bliss & Nikki Cross VS Sasha Banks & Bayley VS The Iiconics was the 19th Triple Threat Match of 2020, the 1st since Raw on June 8, the 1st on PPV since WrestleMania on April 4, the 4th Triple Threat Match in Backlash History, & the 1st since John Cena VS Edge VS Triple H in 2006, the 6th Women’s Tag Team Championship Match of 2020, the 1st since Smackdown on June 5 & the 1st on PPV since WrestleMania 36 on April 4, & the 1st ever at Backlash, the 1st Multi-Woman Match at Backlash since the 6-Way Women’s Match for the Vacant Smackdown Women’s Championship in 2016, Bliss’ 3rd Backlash event & 2nd in a row, & she has only competed in Championship Matches at Backlash, as she wrestled for the Smackdown Women’s Title in 2016 & the Raw Women’s Title in 2018, her 1st PPV since WrestleMania 36 on April 4, Cross’ Backlash debut & 1st PPV since WrestleMania 36 on April 4, Banks’ Backlash debut & 1st PPV since WrestleMania on 36 on April 5, Bayley’s 2nd Backlash event in a row, but 1st Title Match, & her 3rd PPV in a row in 2020, Kay & Royce’s Backlash debut & their 1st PPV since WrestleMania 35 on April 7, 2019, & was the 2nd Women’s Match to open a Backlash PPV & the 1st since the 6-Way Women’s Match in 2016, making this Bliss’ 2nd Backlash opener since they won, Banks & Bayley beat their previous reign, as they lost the Women’s Tag Team Titles on their 1st defense to The Iiconics at WrestleMania 35 on April 7, 2019, & it continued the streak of no titles changing hands in a Triple Threat Match at a Backlash - Jeff Hardy VS Sheamus was Hardy’s 6th Backlash event, tying him with Matt Hardy, Chris Jericho, & Shawn Michaels for 5th place for most Backlash matches in History & 2nd event in a row, his1st Non-Title Non-Gimmick Match at a Backlash since he lost to Brock Lesnar in 2002, & his 2nd PPV in a row in 2020, Sheamus’ Backlash debut & his 1st PPV since the Royal Rumble on January 26, & was the 3rd 1-on-1 Match between them in their career, with their 1st match taking place on Raw on May 15, 2017 & their last match taking place on Smackdown on May 12, 2020, with Hardy winning the 1st 2 matches & Sheamus winning at Backlash, making this Hardy’s 1st loss since he returned - Asuka VS Nia Jax was the 4th Raw Women’s Championship Match of 2020 & the 3rd PPV in a row in 2020 & will be the 9th Women’s Championship in Backlash History & 2nd event in a row, Asuka’s Backlash debut, making her the 1st Women’s Champion since Nia Jax to make her Backlash debut as the defending Raw Women’s Champion, her 4th PPV in a row in 2020, & her 1st Raw Women’s Title Defense, Jax’s 2nd Backlash event in a row & 2nd Women’s Title Match in a row at Backlash, her 2nd PPV in a row in 2020, she was the 1st since Mickie James in 2006 & 2007 to be a Women’s Champion & then challenge for the same Women’s Championship at back-to-back Backlash events, & was the 6th 1-on-1 Match between Asuka & Jax with their 1st match taking place on NXT Takeover: The End on June 8, 2016 & their last match prior to Backlash taking place on Raw on March 5, 2018, with Asuka winning all 5 previous matches, until the Double Count Out at Backlash, was the 6th Count Out of 2020, the 1st since NXT on June 3, the 1st for WWE proper since Raw on June 1, the 2nd Count Out in Backlash History & the 1st since Kevin Owens defeated AJ Styles in 2017, the 11th No Contest of 2020, the 1st since NXT on June 3, the 1st for WWE proper since Raw on June 1, & the 4th in Backlash History & the 1st since AJ Styles VS Shinsuke Nakamura in 2018, & the 1st for both on PPV in 2020, & since she retained Asuka will not be the 1st Raw Women’s Champion since Sasha Banks who lost her title in her 1st defense to Alexa Bliss on Raw on August 28, 2017, after defeating Bliss for the title at SummerSlam on August 20, 2017 to lose her title on 1st defense - Braun Strowman VS The Miz & John Morrison was the 4th Handicap Match of 2020 & the 1st since Elimination Chamber on March 8 & was the 5th Handicap Match in Backlash History & 1st since 2007, which was also for a title, the ECW Title, the 1st Handicap Match to not feature The McMahons at Backlash since Chris Jericho defeated Christian & Trish Stratus in 2004, the 37th Handicap Title Match in WWE History with the 1st one being Demolition VS Mr. Fuji & The Powers of Pain for the WWE Tag Team Titles at WrestleMania 5 on April 2, 1989 & the last one being Braun Strowman VS Cesaro, Shinsuke Nakamura & Sami Zayn for the Intercontinental Title at Elimination Chamber on March 8, 2020, the 17th Handicap WWE, World, & Universal Title Match & 1st since WWE Champion AJ Styles VS Kevin Owens & Sami Zayn at the Royal Rumble on January 28, 2018, the 5th Universal Title Match in 2020 & 5th PPV in a row, making it the only title to be defended at every PPV in 2020, the 20th WWE or World Championship Match, also counting the ECW Title as a World Title, in Backlash History & 7th Backlash event in a row, but 1st ever Universal Title Match in Backlash History, Strowman’s 2nd Backlash event in a row & his 1st ever Title Match at a Backlash & his 5th PPV in a row in 2020, his 8th Handicap Match in his career & 1st since he lost the Intercontinental Title at Elimination Chamber on March 8, 2018, now giving him a record of 5-2-1, Miz’s 4th Backlash & 2nd in a row, his 1st ever Universal Title Match, but 3rd title match, as he retained & challenged for the Intercontinental Title in 2016 & 2018, his 2nd PPV in a row in 2020, his 14th Handicap Match in his career & his 1st since he defeated Sanity on Smackdown on April 2, 2019, giving him a record of 4-8-2, Morrison’s 3rd Backlash & 1st since 2008, giving him the 2nd longest gap between Backlash Matches at 12 years, one more than Edge’s 11 years (2009-2020), & less than Rhyno’s 15 years (2001-2016), the 1st time that he is on the main card of a Backlash and not in a Dark Match, his 2nd PPV in a row in 2020, his 12th Handicap Match in his career & 1st since he & Trish Stratus lost to LayCool, Vickie Guerrero, & Dolph Ziggler on Raw on March 21, 2011, giving him a record of 5-7-0, the 1st time Miz & Morrison will be competing in a Tag Team Match at Backlash since they defeated Shannon Moore & Jimmy Wang Yang prior to Backlash on 2008, Miz & Morrison’s 5th Handicap Match as a Tag Team & their 1st since they lost to Kane on ECW on May 27, 2008, giving them a record of 2-3, if Strowman would have lost, he would have been the 1st Universal Champion since Brock Lesnar in 2018 to lose his title in his 2nd defense - Drew McIntyre VS Bobby Lashley was the 5th WWE Championship Match of 2020 & 3rd PPV in a row, the 21st WWE or World Championship Match, also counting the ECW Title as a World Title, in Backlash History & 7th Backlash event in a row, the 1st time since 2009 that there were 2 World or WWE Title Matches at a Backlash PPV, Drew McIntyre’s Backlash debut, making him the 1st WWE Champion since Dean Ambrose to make his Backlash debut as the defending WWE Champion, his 3rd PPV in a row in 2020 & will be his 3rd WWE Title defense, Bobby Lashley’s 3rd Backlash & 2nd event in a row, will be his 1st ever 1-on-1 Match at a Backlash event, & his 1st Title Match since he lost the ECW Title to Shane & Vince McMahon & Umaga in 2007, his 3rd PPV in a row in 2020, & his 1st Title Match of any kind since he lost the Intercontinental Title to Finn Balor at WrestleMania 35 on April 7, 2019 & his 1st WWE or World Title Match since he lost to WWE World Heavyweight Champion John Cena at Great American Bash on July 22, 2007, & was ttheir 1st ever 1-on-1 Match in WWE, since he didn’t lose, McIntyre was not the 1st WWE Champion since Roman Reigns in 2016 to lose the title on his 3rd defense & or the 1st WWE Champion with the least amount of title defenses since Randy Orton in 2017 who lost the title to Jinder Mahal in his 1st defense, & was the 2nd Backlash event in a row that no WWE or Universal Title changed hands - BONUS FACT FOR MATCH THAT DIDN’T TAKE PLACE THAT I RUSHED TO GET THE FACTS FOR: The Street Profits VS The Viking Raiders would have been the 9th Raw Tag Team Championship Match of 2020, the 1st since Raw on April 6, & the 1st on PPV since WrestleMania 36 on April 5, the 10th Tag Team Championship Match in Backlash history & the 1st since 2017,the 1st ever Raw Tag Team Championship Match at Backlash, The Street Profits’ Backlash debut & their 1st PPV since WrestleMania 36 on April 4, making them the 1st Tag Team Champions since Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas in 2003 to make their Backlash debut as defending Tag Team Champions, their 4th Tag Team Title Defense, giving them more defenses than Murphy & Rollins who lost the Tag Team Titles to The Street Profits on Raw on March 2, & if they would have lost, they would have been the 1st Raw Tag Team Champions since The Revival who lost the titles to Hawkins & Ryder at WrestleMania 35 on April 7, 2020 to lose the Tag Team Titles on their 4th defense, The Viking Raiders’ Backlash debut & their 1st PPV since Elimination Chamber on March 8, making them the 1st Tag Team since Breezango to make their Backlash debut, challenging for the Tag Team Championship, & this match would have been the 1st time in Backlash History that both teams made their Backlash debut competing in a Tag Team Title Match, & If The Viking Raiders would have won, they would have been the 1st Raw Tag Team Champions since Karl Anderson & Luke Gallows to be 2-time Raw Tag Team Champions, & would have been the 4th 2-on-2 Tag Team Match between The Street Profits & The Viking Raiders with their 1st match taking place on NXT on May 15, 2019, which ended in a No Contest, & their last match taking place on Raw on May 4, 2020, which was won by The Viking Raiders, so in their 3 matches, The Street Profits have never won, The Viking Raiders won twice, & 1 match ended in a No Contest, & would have been the 3rd Tag Team Title Change in Backlash History & the 1st since 2016 when Rhyno & Heath Slater defeated The Usos to win the Vacant Smackdown Tag Team Titles - Edge VS Randy Orton was Edge’s 10th Backlash PPV, tying him with Triple H for most matches in Backlash History, & 1st since 2009, giving him the 3rd largest gap between Backlash matches, behind John Morrison’s 12 year gap (2008-2020), & Rhyno’s 15 year gap (2001-2016), his 1st Non-Title Non-Gimmick Singles Match at Backlash since he defeated Kane on April 18, 2004, his 1st PPV of 2020 since WrestleMania 36 on April 5, which was also his last match of 2020, his 1st Non-Title Non-Gimmick Singles Match since he defeated Drew McIntyre on Smackdown on March 25, 2011 & the 1st on PPV since he defeated Jack Swagger at Hell In A Cell on October 3, 2010, Orton’s 8th Backlash event, which is the 3rd of all-time after Edge & Triple H (10) & Kane (9), & 4th event in a row, his 1st Non-Title Non-Gimmick Match at Backlash since he defeated Bray Wyatt on September 11, 2016, his 1st PPV of 2020 since WrestleMania 36 on April 5, which was also his last match of 2020, not counting the 2020 Royal Rumble, this was Edge’s 1st PPV main event since a 6-Pack Challenge Match at Night of Champions on September 19, 2010, & his 1-on-1 Main Event since he defeated Jeff Hardy at Judgement Day on May 17, 2009, Orton’s 1st PPV Main Event since the Money In The Bank Match at Money In The Bank on May 19, 2019, & his 1st 1-on-1 Main Event since he lost to Jinder Mahal in a Punjabi Prison Match on July 23, 2017, the 2nd PPV in a row that a Non-Title Match was the main event of a PPV, the 3rd Non-Title Match to main event a Backlash PPV & 2nd event in a row after Roman Reigns VS Samoa Joe in 2018, Edge’s 4th Backlash PPV main event & 1st since 2009 & it will be Orton’s 4th Backlash PPV main event & 1st since 2017, tying them with John Cena for 2nd most Backlash PPV main events, 2nd to Triple H who main evented 7, & the 10th 1-on-1 Match between Edge & Orton in their career, with their 1st match taking place on Raw on May 10, 2004, which was won by Orton, & their last match taking place at WrestleMania on April 5, 2020, which was won by Edge. So, in their now 10 previous matches, Edge has won 5, Orton has won 3, & there was 1 Double Count Out - This was the 1st PPV of 2020 to not have a Title Chance since the Royal Rumble on January 26 & the 2nd Backlash in a row to not have a Title Change
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 14, 2020 21:28:59 GMT -5
Like. That’s wrestling to me. Its a simple story with a devastating ending. It’s not overloaded with dramaaaaaaatic moooooments. The story is told in the post match and with bits in the match. I'd argue it was loaded with dramatic moments, but none of it felt forced. Every piece of drama in that match felt earned and natural. It reminds me of something Bryan Alvarez and Meltzer were saying about a match once, that they felt rewarded as a viewer for being familiar with the wrestlers and angles, and that it made a great match into something special, and that's sort of how I feel about this, that this match expected the fans to be able to bring their history to the match and get that much more out of it than just the match itself, like it felt like an actual payoff. I'm glad they decided to go back to this well after 'Mania and how comparatively frustrating that match was for me. They are definitely redeemed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 21:36:23 GMT -5
Going from the greatest match to one of the worst matches ever in Undertaker/Kane vs. DX I'm proud to say I still haven't seen that.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jun 14, 2020 21:45:48 GMT -5
WWE Backlash June 14th, 2020 | WWE Performance Center in Orlando, Florida
WWE United States Championship: Apollo Crews [c] vs. Andrade It’s our Kickoff match. A rematch from when Apollo won the title (**¾) and they also had a title match back in April (***¼). I love Zelina Vega so much. Interestingly, Kevin Owens showed up just before the bell to join commentary. This was a case of two quality wrestlers simply having a quality wrestling match. KO sold the idea on commentary that Zelina might prefer Angel Garza to Andrade. The offense got bigger as the match progressed from loud chops to a slingshot DDT to the press slam/moonsault/SSP combo. Garza got on the apron and Owens took him out with a Stunner. Crews avoided a Hammerlock DDT and hit the spinout powerbomb to retain in 7:23. Just some really good wrestling. [***¼]
WWE Women's Tag Team Championship: Bayley and Sasha Banks [c] vs. Alexa Bliss and Nikki Cross vs. The IIconics Main card time. This was the match I’m most excited for on the card. Apparently, Sasha and Bayley are trying to go by the “Golden Role Models.” Three women were legal at a time in this. Things were particularly good when Sasha, Peyton, and Alexa went at it with some fun pinning combinations. Alexa Bliss got a hot tag at one point and it started slowly but then she started hitting everyone in her path. She’s so good in that role. Peyton was arguably the MVP here, with a sweet spin kick, some smooth offense, and a cross body through the ropes. Alexa nailed Twisted Bliss only for Sasha to sneak in and roll her up to retain in 8:50. A spot or two came off awkwardly and the finish is overdone but that was still really good. I wish they went closer to 12 minutes. [***¼]
Jeff Hardy vs. Sheamus It’s hard to take this “personal” rivalry seriously when it involves throwing piss on someone. During COVID-19. It also didn’t quite feel all that bitter once the bell rang. There were a few moments, particularly the viciousness with which Jeff was suplexed onto the ring post. Though the intensity picked up after, it was hurt by them calling spots loudly. I know it must be tough with no true audience but this was really loud at times. Sheamus abused him and Jeff did a good job of selling the fact that he was basically dying. Jeff found an opening to hit Twist of Fate and Swanton Bomb but Sheamus got his foot on the rope. When Jeff tried his guardrail spot, he ate a Brogue Kick. Another one inside kept him down after 16:46. That started slow and dragged a bit but it picked up late thanks to Hardy’s bumping and some cool spots. [***]
WWE Raw Women's Championship: Asuka [c] vs. Nia Jax TakeOver: The End (***¼), NXT in Osaka (***½), and Elimination Chamber (**¾) come to mind for their history. What made this one work well was that it was kept short and let them kind of just go at one another. I appreciated the differences Jax brought to her offense, like the Cobra Clutch and especially the Jackhammer. Asuka threw many stiff kicks at Nia to hold her off. The fight spilled to the outside, which led to a double countout finish in 8:56. Good stuff but I hate that finish. It reeks of the ‘80s and early ‘90s. Also, I have no interest in this feud continuing. [***]
WWE Universal Championship: Braun Strowman [c] vs. John Morrison and The Miz Nothing about this match sounds interesting to me and that’s coming from a huge Miz fan. On the Kickoff Show, it was announced that Miz and Morrison wouldn’t be co-champions if they won. They also kept having the challengers pump their new music video. That gave you the tale of the match. They threw everything they had at Braun but ran into a clear problem when they resorted to taunting with the song and then when they stopped the other from possibly winning. Strowman put Morrison down with a powerslam in 7:22. A pretty useless filler title defense. [*½]
WWE Championship: Drew McIntyre [c] vs. Bobby Lashley I love TNA. MVP got in Drew McIntyre’s face before the bell so Lashley came over and locked him in the full nelson. Officials ran out to try and break it but they couldn’t. It finally broke and Drew still wanted to compete, so the bell rang. That gave Lashley a clear target in Drew’s neck. Drew finally got an opening when he caught Lashley with belly to belly suplex into the guardrail. Still, he kept mostly taking a beating inside. Drew seemingly survived it all, including kicking out at one on a Flatliner, making it through an ankle lock, and not falling to a Spear when he went for the Claymore. Lana walked out following that to yell at the referee. The distraction was enough to lead to Drew hitting Lashley into Lana, who fell onto MVP. A Claymore later and Drew retained in 13:16. That was going so well, telling the story it needed to. Lashley was a force and one who was smart thanks to MVP’s coaching. Drew had to overcome a lot. Then, you get the trash Lana appearance. [***½]
WWE Raw Tag Team Championship: The Street Profits [c] vs. The Viking Raiders This turned out to be another cinematic match, starting as a brawl in the parking lot, which led o Braun Strowman’s car getting destroyed again. They brought back stuff from their recent friendly competitions like Montez having a bowling ball rolled into his crotch. It involved them fighting all over the outside area with weapons, had some comedic moments, included an appearance from Akira Tozawa and ninjas on bikes, and featured Ivar dream sequences. It was all over the place. Things ended with them all in a dumpster. It was pretty fun chaos. I saw the same nonsense Twitter accounts complaining about it. No official match but some goofy fun which I’m usually down for. [NR]
Edge vs. Randy Orton THE GREATEST WRESTLING MATCH EVER! This was done with “enhanced audio,” which meant piped in crowd noise. Charles Robinson was even in an old school ref shirt with a bowtie and they used Fink’s voice for the intro. The idea of the match is that Orton has been wrestling for years while Edge has been hurt. It made sense that Orton could best him with the simplest of things. For example, he just stopped short to avoid an arm drag and it worked to perfection. As this progressed, it got more aggressive. Orton got busted open and Edge kept the pressure on. As this neared the 30 minute mark, you could tell that it was a pretty great wrestling match. The stuff done by Orton and Edge was actually quite good but the added-in crowd noise and weird angles made it hokey. I really liked them resorting to moves from those close to them like Edge using the Killswitch and Orton hitting the Pedigree. They went overboard with the kickouts late, as Edge survived multiple RKOs and Orton kicked out of a bunch of Spears. Orton finally took it home with a low blow and the Punt after 44:47. That’s a great idea for the ending as Orton, who bragged about being the better wrestler, resorted to underhanded tactics. That was fantastic overall. They went too far with the false finishes late and the presentation was odd but everything else worked wonderfully. [****¼]
Overall: 7/10. I feel like I give this score out a lot but it makes sense here. The main event was stellar and Lashley/McIntyre ruled until a bad finish. The rest of the show was a consistent *** affair with the only bad thing being the Universal Title match. Plus, it was just about 3 hours and I don’t hate that.
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Post by hbkid718 on Jun 14, 2020 22:37:50 GMT -5
Overall a really good Backlash PPV. Apollo Crews VS Andrade was great US Title Match on the Kickoff Show. The opening video was really good. I liked Sasha Banks & Bayley’s promo before their match. The Women’s Triple Threat Match was really good. All 3 teams did great. Even though the entire angle leading to the match was disgusting & inappropriate, Hardy VS Sheamus was a great match. OK promo with Miz & Morrison, & Otis. Asuka VS Nia Jax was a horrible match with an even worse finish. Braun Strowman VS The Miz & Morrison was a nothing match. AJ Styles’ promo was OK. McIntyre VS Lashley was an excellent match. I predict them doing a Submission Match at Extreme Rules. I was actually looking forward to finally seeing Street Profits VS Viking Raiders in a wrestling match. Thank you for wasting my time getting the facts for this match for no reason. What a embarrassing segment for 5 great wrestlers and a waste of an amazing wrestler in Akira Tozawa. I love the intros for Edge VS Orton, using Fink’s voice, the old school MSG mic & Charles Robinson wearing the old school ref uniform. Besides the unnecessary blood, Edge VS Orton was a fun match. It wasn’t the greatest match ever, but it was close. They could have done it live and it wouldn't have mattered. The NXT Crowd was good, but I didn't care about the piped in noise. It sucks that Edge really got hurt. Also, Samoa Joe was great on commentary. Here is the Complete History of BacklashHere are the Facts & Stats for Backlash: - This was the 1st Backlash event since 2018. If someone competed in 2018 and will be competing again in 2020, I will count it as their 2nd Backlash in a row, even though it was not in consecutive years, the 1st Backlash since it returned in 2016 that Carmella will not be wrestling, the 1st Backlash since 2017 to not have an Intercontinental Title Match, & the 2nd Backlash event in a row to not have a Men’s Tag Team Championship Match - This was the 1st PPV of 2020 that Kofi Kingston, Seth Rollins, & AJ Styles did not compete on, the 1st PPV of 2020 since Elimination Chamber on March 8 to not have a Smackdown Women’s Championship Match, the 2nd PPV in a row to not have a Men’s Tag Team or Intercontinental Championship Match, & the 1st PPV since the Royal Rumble on January 26 to not have a Smackdown Tag Team Championship Match - Besides Edge VS Randy Orton and Braun Strowman VS The Miz & John Morrison, every match on the card had at least 1 or more wrestlers making their Backlash PPV debut, making it the 1st PPV of 2020 to have the most debuts - Apollo Crews VS Andrade was the 9th United States Championship Match of 2020, the 1st since Raw on June 1, & will be the 5th United States Title Match in Backlash History & 3rd Backlash event in a row, Crews’ 2nd Backlash match & Kickoff Match & 1st since 2016, his 1st Title Match at Backlash, & will be his 1st PPV since a Battle Royal at Crown Jewel on October 31, 2019, & his 1st Singles Match on PPV since he lost to Murphy at SummerSlam on August 11, 2019, his 2nd Title Defense, & since he won he wasn’t the 1st United States Champion since Kofi Kingston who lost his title to Dean Ambrose at Extreme Rules on May 19, 2013 to lose the title in his 2nd defense, Andrade’s Backlash debut, making him the 1st wrestler since MVP in 2007 to make his Backlash debut challenging for the US Title, his 1st PPV since Elimination Chamber on March 8, & was the 6th 1-on-1 Match between Crews & Andrade, with their 1st match taking place on Smackdown on July 2, 2019, which was won by Andrade & their last match prior to Backlash taking place on Raw on June 1, 2020, which was won by Crews, so in their now 6 matches against each other, Crews won 3 & Andrade has won 3, was both Crews & Andrade’s 1st PPV opener of 2020, was the 18th Kickoff Match in Backlash History & 13th event in a row, & was the 1st Title Match on the Kickoff since a Light Heavyweight Title in 2001, & since the title was retained, the US Title hasn’t change hands at Backlash since 2008 when Matt Hardy defeated MVP - Alexa Bliss & Nikki Cross VS Sasha Banks & Bayley VS The Iiconics was the 19th Triple Threat Match of 2020, the 1st since Raw on June 8, the 1st on PPV since WrestleMania on April 4, the 4th Triple Threat Match in Backlash History, & the 1st since John Cena VS Edge VS Triple H in 2006, the 6th Women’s Tag Team Championship Match of 2020, the 1st since Smackdown on June 5 & the 1st on PPV since WrestleMania 36 on April 4, & the 1st ever at Backlash, the 1st Multi-Woman Match at Backlash since the 6-Way Women’s Match for the Vacant Smackdown Women’s Championship in 2016, Bliss’ 3rd Backlash event & 2nd in a row, & she has only competed in Championship Matches at Backlash, as she wrestled for the Smackdown Women’s Title in 2016 & the Raw Women’s Title in 2018, her 1st PPV since WrestleMania 36 on April 4, Cross’ Backlash debut & 1st PPV since WrestleMania 36 on April 4, Banks’ Backlash debut & 1st PPV since WrestleMania on 36 on April 5, Bayley’s 2nd Backlash event in a row, but 1st Title Match, & her 3rd PPV in a row in 2020, Kay & Royce’s Backlash debut & their 1st PPV since WrestleMania 35 on April 7, 2019, & was the 2nd Women’s Match to open a Backlash PPV & the 1st since the 6-Way Women’s Match in 2016, making this Bliss’ 2nd Backlash opener since they won, Banks & Bayley beat their previous reign, as they lost the Women’s Tag Team Titles on their 1st defense to The Iiconics at WrestleMania 35 on April 7, 2019, & it continued the streak of no titles changing hands in a Triple Threat Match at a Backlash - Jeff Hardy VS Sheamus was Hardy’s 6th Backlash event, tying him with Matt Hardy, Chris Jericho, & Shawn Michaels for 5th place for most Backlash matches in History & 2nd event in a row, his1st Non-Title Non-Gimmick Match at a Backlash since he lost to Brock Lesnar in 2002, & his 2nd PPV in a row in 2020, Sheamus’ Backlash debut & his 1st PPV since the Royal Rumble on January 26, & was the 3rd 1-on-1 Match between them in their career, with their 1st match taking place on Raw on May 15, 2017 & their last match taking place on Smackdown on May 12, 2020, with Hardy winning the 1st 2 matches & Sheamus winning at Backlash, making this Hardy’s 1st loss since he returned - Asuka VS Nia Jax was the 4th Raw Women’s Championship Match of 2020 & the 3rd PPV in a row in 2020 & will be the 9th Women’s Championship in Backlash History & 2nd event in a row, Asuka’s Backlash debut, making her the 1st Women’s Champion since Nia Jax to make her Backlash debut as the defending Raw Women’s Champion, her 4th PPV in a row in 2020, & her 1st Raw Women’s Title Defense, Jax’s 2nd Backlash event in a row & 2nd Women’s Title Match in a row at Backlash, her 2nd PPV in a row in 2020, she was the 1st since Mickie James in 2006 & 2007 to be a Women’s Champion & then challenge for the same Women’s Championship at back-to-back Backlash events, & was the 6th 1-on-1 Match between Asuka & Jax with their 1st match taking place on NXT Takeover: The End on June 8, 2016 & their last match prior to Backlash taking place on Raw on March 5, 2018, with Asuka winning all 5 previous matches, until the Double Count Out at Backlash, was the 6th Count Out of 2020, the 1st since NXT on June 3, the 1st for WWE proper since Raw on June 1, the 2nd Count Out in Backlash History & the 1st since Kevin Owens defeated AJ Styles in 2017, the 11th No Contest of 2020, the 1st since NXT on June 3, the 1st for WWE proper since Raw on June 1, & the 4th in Backlash History & the 1st since AJ Styles VS Shinsuke Nakamura in 2018, & the 1st for both on PPV in 2020, & since she retained Asuka will not be the 1st Raw Women’s Champion since Sasha Banks who lost her title in her 1st defense to Alexa Bliss on Raw on August 28, 2017, after defeating Bliss for the title at SummerSlam on August 20, 2017 to lose her title on 1st defense - Braun Strowman VS The Miz & John Morrison was the 4th Handicap Match of 2020 & the 1st since Elimination Chamber on March 8 & was the 5th Handicap Match in Backlash History & 1st since 2007, which was also for a title, the ECW Title, the 1st Handicap Match to not feature The McMahons at Backlash since Chris Jericho defeated Christian & Trish Stratus in 2004, the 37th Handicap Title Match in WWE History with the 1st one being Demolition VS Mr. Fuji & The Powers of Pain for the WWE Tag Team Titles at WrestleMania 5 on April 2, 1989 & the last one being Braun Strowman VS Cesaro, Shinsuke Nakamura & Sami Zayn for the Intercontinental Title at Elimination Chamber on March 8, 2020, the 17th Handicap WWE, World, & Universal Title Match & 1st since WWE Champion AJ Styles VS Kevin Owens & Sami Zayn at the Royal Rumble on January 28, 2018, the 5th Universal Title Match in 2020 & 5th PPV in a row, making it the only title to be defended at every PPV in 2020, the 20th WWE or World Championship Match, also counting the ECW Title as a World Title, in Backlash History & 7th Backlash event in a row, but 1st ever Universal Title Match in Backlash History, Strowman’s 2nd Backlash event in a row & his 1st ever Title Match at a Backlash & his 5th PPV in a row in 2020, his 8th Handicap Match in his career & 1st since he lost the Intercontinental Title at Elimination Chamber on March 8, 2018, now giving him a record of 5-2-1, Miz’s 4th Backlash & 2nd in a row, his 1st ever Universal Title Match, but 3rd title match, as he retained & challenged for the Intercontinental Title in 2016 & 2018, his 2nd PPV in a row in 2020, his 14th Handicap Match in his career & his 1st since he defeated Sanity on Smackdown on April 2, 2019, giving him a record of 4-8-2, Morrison’s 3rd Backlash & 1st since 2008, giving him the 2nd longest gap between Backlash Matches at 12 years, one more than Edge’s 11 years (2009-2020), & less than Rhyno’s 15 years (2001-2016), the 1st time that he is on the main card of a Backlash and not in a Dark Match, his 2nd PPV in a row in 2020, his 12th Handicap Match in his career & 1st since he & Trish Stratus lost to LayCool, Vickie Guerrero, & Dolph Ziggler on Raw on March 21, 2011, giving him a record of 5-7-0, the 1st time Miz & Morrison will be competing in a Tag Team Match at Backlash since they defeated Shannon Moore & Jimmy Wang Yang prior to Backlash on 2008, Miz & Morrison’s 5th Handicap Match as a Tag Team & their 1st since they lost to Kane on ECW on May 27, 2008, giving them a record of 2-3, if Strowman would have lost, he would have been the 1st Universal Champion since Brock Lesnar in 2018 to lose his title in his 2nd defense - Drew McIntyre VS Bobby Lashley was the 5th WWE Championship Match of 2020 & 3rd PPV in a row, the 21st WWE or World Championship Match, also counting the ECW Title as a World Title, in Backlash History & 7th Backlash event in a row, the 1st time since 2009 that there were 2 World or WWE Title Matches at a Backlash PPV, Drew McIntyre’s Backlash debut, making him the 1st WWE Champion since Dean Ambrose to make his Backlash debut as the defending WWE Champion, his 3rd PPV in a row in 2020 & will be his 3rd WWE Title defense, Bobby Lashley’s 3rd Backlash & 2nd event in a row, will be his 1st ever 1-on-1 Match at a Backlash event, & his 1st Title Match since he lost the ECW Title to Shane & Vince McMahon & Umaga in 2007, his 3rd PPV in a row in 2020, & his 1st Title Match of any kind since he lost the Intercontinental Title to Finn Balor at WrestleMania 35 on April 7, 2019 & his 1st WWE or World Title Match since he lost to WWE World Heavyweight Champion John Cena at Great American Bash on July 22, 2007, & was ttheir 1st ever 1-on-1 Match in WWE, since he didn’t lose, McIntyre was not the 1st WWE Champion since Roman Reigns in 2016 to lose the title on his 3rd defense & or the 1st WWE Champion with the least amount of title defenses since Randy Orton in 2017 who lost the title to Jinder Mahal in his 1st defense, & was the 2nd Backlash event in a row that no WWE or Universal Title changed hands - BONUS FACT FOR MATCH THAT DIDN’T TAKE PLACE THAT I RUSHED TO GET THE FACTS FOR: The Street Profits VS The Viking Raiders would have been the 9th Raw Tag Team Championship Match of 2020, the 1st since Raw on April 6, & the 1st on PPV since WrestleMania 36 on April 5, the 10th Tag Team Championship Match in Backlash history & the 1st since 2017,the 1st ever Raw Tag Team Championship Match at Backlash, The Street Profits’ Backlash debut & their 1st PPV since WrestleMania 36 on April 4, making them the 1st Tag Team Champions since Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas in 2003 to make their Backlash debut as defending Tag Team Champions, their 4th Tag Team Title Defense, giving them more defenses than Murphy & Rollins who lost the Tag Team Titles to The Street Profits on Raw on March 2, & if they would have lost, they would have been the 1st Raw Tag Team Champions since The Revival who lost the titles to Hawkins & Ryder at WrestleMania 35 on April 7, 2020 to lose the Tag Team Titles on their 4th defense, The Viking Raiders’ Backlash debut & their 1st PPV since Elimination Chamber on March 8, making them the 1st Tag Team since Breezango to make their Backlash debut, challenging for the Tag Team Championship, & this match would have been the 1st time in Backlash History that both teams made their Backlash debut competing in a Tag Team Title Match, & If The Viking Raiders would have won, they would have been the 1st Raw Tag Team Champions since Karl Anderson & Luke Gallows to be 2-time Raw Tag Team Champions, & would have been the 4th 2-on-2 Tag Team Match between The Street Profits & The Viking Raiders with their 1st match taking place on NXT on May 15, 2019, which ended in a No Contest, & their last match taking place on Raw on May 4, 2020, which was won by The Viking Raiders, so in their 3 matches, The Street Profits have never won, The Viking Raiders won twice, & 1 match ended in a No Contest, & would have been the 3rd Tag Team Title Change in Backlash History & the 1st since 2016 when Rhyno & Heath Slater defeated The Usos to win the Vacant Smackdown Tag Team Titles - Edge VS Randy Orton was Edge’s 10th Backlash PPV, tying him with Triple H for most matches in Backlash History, & 1st since 2009, giving him the 3rd largest gap between Backlash matches, behind John Morrison’s 12 year gap (2008-2020), & Rhyno’s 15 year gap (2001-2016), his 1st Non-Title Non-Gimmick Singles Match at Backlash since he defeated Kane on April 18, 2004, his 1st PPV of 2020 since WrestleMania 36 on April 5, which was also his last match of 2020, his 1st Non-Title Non-Gimmick Singles Match since he defeated Drew McIntyre on Smackdown on March 25, 2011 & the 1st on PPV since he defeated Jack Swagger at Hell In A Cell on October 3, 2010, Orton’s 8th Backlash event, which is the 3rd of all-time after Edge & Triple H (10) & Kane (9), & 4th event in a row, his 1st Non-Title Non-Gimmick Match at Backlash since he defeated Bray Wyatt on September 11, 2016, his 1st PPV of 2020 since WrestleMania 36 on April 5, which was also his last match of 2020, not counting the 2020 Royal Rumble, this was Edge’s 1st PPV main event since a 6-Pack Challenge Match at Night of Champions on September 19, 2010, & his 1-on-1 Main Event since he defeated Jeff Hardy at Judgement Day on May 17, 2009, Orton’s 1st PPV Main Event since the Money In The Bank Match at Money In The Bank on May 19, 2019, & his 1st 1-on-1 Main Event since he lost to Jinder Mahal in a Punjabi Prison Match on July 23, 2017, the 2nd PPV in a row that a Non-Title Match was the main event of a PPV, the 3rd Non-Title Match to main event a Backlash PPV & 2nd event in a row after Roman Reigns VS Samoa Joe in 2018, Edge’s 4th Backlash PPV main event & 1st since 2009 & it will be Orton’s 4th Backlash PPV main event & 1st since 2017, tying them with John Cena for 2nd most Backlash PPV main events, 2nd to Triple H who main evented 7, & the 10th 1-on-1 Match between Edge & Orton in their career, with their 1st match taking place on Raw on May 10, 2004, which was won by Orton, & their last match taking place at WrestleMania on April 5, 2020, which was won by Edge. So, in their now 10 previous matches, Edge has won 5, Orton has won 3, & there was 1 Double Count Out - This was the 1st PPV of 2020 to not have a Title Chance since the Royal Rumble on January 26 & the 2nd Backlash in a row to not have a Title Change All this time, I thought that WrestleMania was their 1st defense. I completely missed that Sasha Banks & Bayley defended their titles against Nia Jax & Tamina at Fastlane. So, they need 1 more defense to tie their last reign. I apologize for the error.
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Post by malloc on Jun 14, 2020 23:17:36 GMT -5
Anyone else think there was a botch with the finish to the Nia Asuka match I do not think they were supposed to end up outside I have a feeling asking was supposed to get disqualified by not letting go of a submission while tying nia up in the ropes it'll went a bit wrong I think the finish didn't look tidy.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jun 14, 2020 23:52:02 GMT -5
I’m still humming the chorus of Miz and Morrison’s new song. Lmao
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