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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 5, 2020 3:50:44 GMT -5
That chamber match REALLY took the wind out of her sails. I think if that wasn’t such a dire mess then she’d be in a much better spot right now, which is a shame because it doesn’t really fall on her but it’s not the first time that scenario has played out. Which is weird because they couldn’t have pushed her any harder in that Chamber match if they tried. They basically laid the division at her feet and said “They’re all yours”. But they did it in a terrible way, there was way too much time where she was just standing around.
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Post by cjh on Jul 5, 2020 19:08:18 GMT -5
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jul 5, 2020 19:19:42 GMT -5
Because Vince and Dunn think one want about her. Heyman was her biggest supporter and now out of power so now. She being unused.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 19:30:22 GMT -5
I have said this about Shayna...she really only works 1 way and that 1 way can only work with a very specific story and opponent.
Shayna has to be a bully and the woman she is bullying has to be able to look completely vulnerable to elicit that sympathy.
It is why I never bought into the feud with Becky hell against any of the 4 horsewomen would be all shitty feuds because she will never be allowed to bully any of them and they are too far up in the food chain to use that to build Shayna up.
Kairi was perfect in every single way as someone who had the credentials to match her in the ring but was so pure and knew how to get everyone to sympathize with what Shayna was doing to her.
gonna be difficult if Kairi is leaving for anyone to really make Shayna look this evil and garner this much sympathy and this is without Shayna even laying a hand on her at all in this segment.
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Jul 6, 2020 11:28:42 GMT -5
She is going to be on an upcoming episode of Main Event but other than that she is basically doing nothing thanks to Vince
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 6, 2020 11:36:38 GMT -5
He's got Triple H's top female talent of the past year or so working Main Event. Good grief.
I think the part that really irks me is that Shayna seems like a really sweet person and she's busted her ass since day one. This shouldn't be the "reward".
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 6, 2020 12:12:38 GMT -5
them basically letting her beat everyone one by one in the Chamber and not really getting over with the crowd (because they didn't really do anything with her to do that)
combined with losing at Mania kinda killed her dead.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jul 6, 2020 12:49:12 GMT -5
them basically letting her beat everyone one by one in the Chamber and not really getting over with the crowd (because they didn't really do anything with her to do that) combined with losing at Mania kinda killed her dead. They really f***ed up with the Chamber, it was obvious she was gonna win and they did it in the lamest possible manner and killed off potential feuds. They could’ve easily made her look super strong without killing the entire match
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Post by sportatorium on Jul 6, 2020 13:03:41 GMT -5
It’s just another case of WWE not playing to the strengths of the talent. I know some find her unexciting etc, but I can’t imagine why a wrestling company would ever cast aside a legitimately tough unrepentant heel. She is instantly more credible as a heel than Bayley or Nia Jax and if they aren’t bought in on her as a champion or main event player, she could easily be plugged in as an upper mid card heel who can elevate babyfaces to the main event. Or, she can work as an occasional challenger/feud to a champion.
As far as her looks go, it’s a conversation that we really need to move past. There is an entire history of male wrestlers who weren’t traditionally handsome that were 100% over as top talent. I hope she gets a release from WWE & goes to AEW as they would play to her strengths and make her a huge star. Impact is actually booking Deonna Purazzo exactly as Shayna Baszler should be booked right now.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jul 6, 2020 15:12:56 GMT -5
I had a dream that she returned and her gimmick was she rode an invisible bike.
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Post by 3cheers4ramirez on Jul 6, 2020 15:25:21 GMT -5
It was a rare occasion where they knew they'd gone wrong, and decided to change course.
Her running through the entire division wasn't doing it for anyone, so it's best to reset and try again at a later point.
Whether they come up with anything other than 'MMA fighter destroys opposition and beats everyone' remains to be seen.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 6, 2020 17:33:57 GMT -5
The problem is that they sacrificed everyone in the division to get her over, but it didn't get her over. So now she's not over but the division itself is also scorched earth. The problem is that as noted unless Shayna can bully someone it's tough to really book her well. Nia Jax can be a monster heel on size alone if need be. Bayley has become an annoying douche on the mic that cheats. Baszler isn't really either of those things. Her brand of monster heel is more like slowly dissecting someone and tapping them out. She's a wrestling equivalent of the 1970 Baltimore Orioles. Fundamentally sound and dominant but it could be a snooze to watch.
People talk about how Vince is out of touch, but really, isn't Heyman as well? That whole Chamber fiasco felt very much like something Heyman booked, as is a lot of the crappy Lesnar stuff that people hate. I'm pretty sure the whole "Brock beats everyone with 1 F5 for a solid year and then Roman kicks out of 5 of them" idiocy was a Heyman idea, wasn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 17:40:39 GMT -5
I remember reading and I have no clue how true it is but the way Shayna was booked in the chamber was how Heyman wanted to book Lashley I believe it was in the december to dismember chamber where he just 1 man demolishes everyone and this was him finally getting to apply that scenario.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jul 6, 2020 18:17:40 GMT -5
I remember reading and I have no clue how true it is but the way Shayna was booked in the chamber was how Heyman wanted to book Lashley I believe it was in the december to dismember chamber where he just 1 man demolishes everyone and this was him finally getting to apply that scenario. Pretty sure he wanted Punk to run the table in the December to Dismember. At the very least, Paul wanted Punk to be the one to beat Big Show
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