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Post by Matt on Feb 1, 2021 0:45:53 GMT -5
I’m hoping he wins the belt either way, Roman can take the loss if it’s done right and Drew is a really meh champion anyways. If Edge does win it won’t be a six month or year reign but it would be cool anyways.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 1, 2021 0:52:54 GMT -5
Probably more like Ronda Rousey a few years ago "Full time" but won't be there every week but you're going to still see them a lot And some of that wasn’t his intention with the injury he got at Backlash. He’d probably at least be more like Michaels at least on a PPV level if not for that. Oh yeah without question if this was "regular times" he'd def be there for majority of the shows and no house shows unless he wants to do a few a year If you're counting 52 shows for the year (not counting PPVs), I would expect to see for at least 35 of them
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 1, 2021 0:54:15 GMT -5
I’m hoping he wins the belt either way, Roman can take the loss if it’s done right and Drew is a really meh champion anyways. If Edge does win it won’t be a six month or year reign but it would be cool anyways. I disagree there The one thing Roman is missing on his resume is walking in and out of Mania as champ and no matter who he faced this year he needs to do that. It fits his character to a T providing personal goals while also knocking off the last thing as "The Guy"
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 1, 2021 0:58:34 GMT -5
I don't see Edge's return as a legend run. It's making up for a career cut short, just like Shawn Michaels did when he came back. To me, that's different from a Goldberg or Lesnar walking away for months/years and coming back for a payday or just to win a title.
I think that Edge vs. Drew intrigues me more than Edge vs. Roman. I just feel there are more suitable guys out there for Roman to face.
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Post by eJm on Feb 1, 2021 0:58:40 GMT -5
I also would like to add that, compared to the women’s Rumble, the men’s Rumble just felt like it kind of happened? Like, there were cool moments but it didn’t have the sort of character moments like Billie Kay or Shayna and Nia being bullies or Lana getting something after months of barely anything.
If it wasn’t for how they did that ending, it would have been a very forgettable Rumble and I say that as someone who didn’t have Edge to win at all. Just for me, anyway.
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Post by Some Guy on Feb 1, 2021 1:16:36 GMT -5
I don't see Edge's return as a legend run. It's making up for a career cut short, just like Shawn Michaels did when he came back. To me, that's different from a Goldberg or Lesnar walking away for months/years and coming back for a payday or just to win a title. I think that Edge vs. Drew intrigues me more than Edge vs. Roman. I just feel there are more suitable guys out there for Roman to face. Yeah but the thing with Shawn was he was 10 years younger than Edge was now, and most of the real issue with him was getting clean (which he did). Edge's neck is far more serious than Shawn's back ever was (which wasn't ever as bad as they made it seem). He can't do the schedule Shawn did, he really has to be a part timer for maybe a year or two to make this work without concern.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 1, 2021 1:28:45 GMT -5
We really need to stop treating Edge or Christian's return for that matter as a legends run
Edge has been an absolute workhorse in the matches he's had since coming back. The Last Man Standing Match and "GREATEST MATCH EVER" he has gone exponential amounts of time in ring, even with the second one being a taped affair the spots were still the spots. He just went 60 Minutes in the Rumble from 1 and won it, Goldberg was gassed ON HIS ENTRANCE.
Edge can still go, the Rumble proved he can go with anyone from Ricochet to Styles. The issue is he was stuck with Orton for half a year till he got hurt. He and Christian both aren't some old dudes who are trying to jack a spot, they're two dudes who both had to sit out for YEARS thinking their careers were over, and have come back in the best shapes of ther careers with something to prove.
I know we get on WWE for "Riding the Nostalgia Pony" and such, but Edge and Christian are feel good stories, and neither of them are washed. They've more than shown to me they've earned this run.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Feb 1, 2021 1:30:18 GMT -5
We really need to stop treating Edge or Christian's return for that matter as a legends run Edge has been an absolute workhorse in the matches he's had since coming back. The Last Man Standing Match and "GREATEST MATCH EVER" he has gone exponential amounts of time in ring, even with the second one being a taped affair the spots were still the spots. He just went 60 Minutes in the Rumble from 1 and won it, Goldberg was gassed ON HIS ENTRANCE. Edge can still go, the Rumble proved he can go with anyone from Ricochet to Styles. The issue is he was stuck with Orton for half a year till he got hurt. He and Christian both aren't some old dudes who are trying to jack a spot, they're two dudes who both had to sit out for YEARS thinking their careers were over, and hve come back in the best shapes of ther careers with something to prove. I know we get on WWE for "Riding the Nostalgia Pony" and such, but Edge and Christian are feel good stories, and neither of them are washed. They've more than shown to me they've earned this run. Great post, wish I could like it multiple times.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 1, 2021 1:32:59 GMT -5
I also would like to add that, compared to the women’s Rumble, the men’s Rumble just felt like it kind of happened? Like, there were cool moments but it didn’t have the sort of character moments like Billie Kay or Shayna and Nia being bullies or Lana getting something after months of barely anything. If it wasn’t for how they did that ending, it would have been a very forgettable Rumble and I say that as someone who didn’t have Edge to win at all. Just for me, anyway. Since the Women has gotten their Rumble match, they have had better quality so kudos to whoever has booked the womens matches
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Post by eJm on Feb 1, 2021 1:36:41 GMT -5
I also would like to add that, compared to the women’s Rumble, the men’s Rumble just felt like it kind of happened? Like, there were cool moments but it didn’t have the sort of character moments like Billie Kay or Shayna and Nia being bullies or Lana getting something after months of barely anything. If it wasn’t for how they did that ending, it would have been a very forgettable Rumble and I say that as someone who didn’t have Edge to win at all. Just for me, anyway. Since the Women has gotten their Rumble match, they have had better quality so kudos to whoever has booked the womens matches For me it felt like a slow build to this one where 2018 was...well, fine but more about “LOOK AT THIS RETURNING PERSON”, 2019 had its moments but was basically saved by Fit Finlay getting the pop of his career, 2020 at least showcased some new talent and had OTIS! so this year felt like the first time there was an arc and personalities were able to come out more and I hope that continues.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 1, 2021 1:37:37 GMT -5
Was really hoping they’d follow up with Nakamura’s recent momentum. yeah he and Cesaro went nowhere fast. Nakamura and Cesaro always feel to me like people who should get way more than WWE gives them, but WWE never gets hot enough on them, and Nakamura was a megastar at one point, I just can't believe they did what they did to him at Mania and with Mahal, it was maddening and he still hasn't recovered. So I guess it doesn't shock me they get hot again and then WWE cools them down. I wish I could at least see Cesaro in another company before he starts to wind down because he's a one of a kind physical talent, Nakamura seems content to get WWE money into retirement and live the Florida life, so I can't fault him for that. I hope Nakamura gets Reigns at the February PPV or something at LEAST.
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Post by freeze Austin on Feb 1, 2021 2:05:02 GMT -5
So, Bryan's just never gonna win a Rumble, huh? I accepted long ago that this was something that was never going to happen for him. It's that last stamp of approval they will never budge on giving him. It's a testament to what great storytellers Heyman and Bryan are that a couple of random promos between two guys probably fantasy booking their own angle that they know won't happen made some people believe that maybe, just maybe, they'd make up for past mistakes and give him that win he needed in '14. This one for sure slammed the door on that and I sincerely hope this is his last Rumble attempt. Out of all the realistic alternatives, Edge was as good as it gets. Difficult not to root for him.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Feb 1, 2021 2:23:12 GMT -5
By the way, what happened to Jey Uso? He was advertised for the match.
In regards to Edge, I’m not too keen on a 47 year old winning the Rumble and being in a main event spot, even if he was gone for a long time and is a semi regular. I wish more wrestling companies used their older wrestlers the way Japan does. Mentors, trainers, working with the young wrestlers, etc.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Feb 1, 2021 2:46:34 GMT -5
Correct me if I’m wrong; but didn’t Edge’s other RR win come off his torn Achilles followed by him looking really bad for awhile and his atrocious “SPEAR SPEAR SPEAR” run?
It’s wild that 11 years later, many of them away with a forced retirement, he’s back looking as good as ever at age 47.
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Post by adamclark52 on Feb 1, 2021 3:20:59 GMT -5
No wrestler ever has a last match.
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Post by avenger on Feb 1, 2021 3:34:33 GMT -5
By the way, what happened to Jey Uso? He was advertised for the match. In regards to Edge, I’m not too keen on a 47 year old winning the Rumble and being in a main event spot, even if he was gone for a long time and is a semi regular. I wish more wrestling companies used their older wrestlers the way Japan does. Mentors, trainers, working with the young wrestlers, etc. Jey Uso's been off Smackdown for the last fortnight, too.
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Post by thehottag on Feb 1, 2021 3:49:59 GMT -5
It's not about 'old vs young' or 'established talent vs elevating new names'. It's about 'fresh vs stale'. Edge feels fresh because he's missed a lot of his career, & vs Drew or vs Roman is something we haven't seen. Of course, if they put the belt on Orton so they can threepeat, I'll retract all of this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2021 3:54:45 GMT -5
It's not about 'old vs young' or 'established talent vs elevating new names'. It's about 'fresh vs stale'. Edge feels fresh because he's missed a lot of his career, & vs Drew or vs Roman is something we haven't seen. Of course, if they put the belt on Orton so they can threepeat, I'll retract all of this. I'll have you know Edge and McIntyre had a deeply memorable couple of random matches on SmackDown in March 2011. In that if you look deep enough I'm sure someone remembers them.
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Post by thechase on Feb 1, 2021 5:13:55 GMT -5
WWE finally can show two number#1 entrant winners in video packages now, and one of them is still Canadian
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Post by Shark on Feb 1, 2021 5:38:14 GMT -5
I also would like to add that, compared to the women’s Rumble, the men’s Rumble just felt like it kind of happened? Like, there were cool moments but it didn’t have the sort of character moments like Billie Kay or Shayna and Nia being bullies or Lana getting something after months of barely anything. If it wasn’t for how they did that ending, it would have been a very forgettable Rumble and I say that as someone who didn’t have Edge to win at all. Just for me, anyway. Since the Women has gotten their Rumble match, they have had better quality so kudos to whoever has booked the womens matches I think the first year had a lot of issues, over reliance on Legends and the ring being practically empty for like 45% of the match being the main ones, but since then the match has been fantastic. I think the women have a lot of motivation to really step up their game and show what they are capable of. That first year, maybe the agents just needed to work out the kinks, but they've done an amazing job since then! I am thinking about where they go with Edge. Both options are pretty excellent. Both give us matches that we've either never seen before or have not seen in a long long time. At first I was thinking maybe don't do Edge vs Drew because Drew just got done facing a Legend in Goldberg, but Edge is a much different case and he and Drew could have an actual match. Plus if not Edge, the options for Drew are much smaller whereas Roman has several good options for Mania opponents.
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