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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 14, 2021 21:40:19 GMT -5
Looking at my stats, her TV win/loss record last year was 17-15-1. Which meant that, based on those stats, Morgan has won only 22 matches in the other years she's been active put together (2015-2019 and nearly half of 2021). I forgot she was in NXT a decent while before getting called up. I guess about two years or so since the Riott Squad debuted on Smackdown in late 2017 I believe. What makes it more sad is I bet a lot of those 22 wins were tag matches where she didn't score the pin. I honestly can't recall her pinning anyone during the original heel Riott Squad run. Maybe in a few tag matches but definitely not ever in a singles. It seemed like any time they won it was Ruby pinning someone. The thing to remember about her NXT run is that she was barely even pushed THERE. Of course, because she was still green at the time, hardly anyone was upset about it, but her NXT TV record was only 8-16-0 over the course of a two and a bit year run.
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Post by salz4life on Jun 15, 2021 8:55:26 GMT -5
She did have a match against -1 on Sunday, that she might have lost. That was awesome to see. I will never not adore Liv!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 13:21:48 GMT -5
She did have a match against -1 on Sunday, that she might have lost. A little off topic, but I love how everyone is trying to make sure that this kid has as awesome of a life as possible without a father. Its nice to see people just be legit good human beings. The world needs more of that.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 16, 2021 19:47:05 GMT -5
I forgot she was in NXT a decent while before getting called up. I guess about two years or so since the Riott Squad debuted on Smackdown in late 2017 I believe. What makes it more sad is I bet a lot of those 22 wins were tag matches where she didn't score the pin. I honestly can't recall her pinning anyone during the original heel Riott Squad run. Maybe in a few tag matches but definitely not ever in a singles. It seemed like any time they won it was Ruby pinning someone. The thing to remember about her NXT run is that she was barely even pushed THERE. Of course, because she was still green at the time, hardly anyone was upset about it, but her NXT TV record was only 8-16-0 over the course of a two and a bit year run. Yeah, she was enhancement talent for the NXT Run pretty much entirely...
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Post by The Creepo Man on Jun 16, 2021 22:52:59 GMT -5
She did have a match against -1 on Sunday, that she might have lost. A little off topic, but I love how everyone is trying to make sure that this kid has as awesome of a life as possible without a father. Its nice to see people just be legit good human beings. The world needs more of that. On her documentary, her father died while her mother was still pregnant with her so Liv had to be raised by a single mother with four other siblings. So she probably can identify with the kid more than anyone else on the roster.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2021 3:20:29 GMT -5
I can't wait for Friday! \o/ Do you all think she'll get 2 wins in a row and possibly win the rubber match against Carmella?
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Post by john84 on Jun 17, 2021 19:46:18 GMT -5
I can't wait for Friday! \o/ Do you all think she'll get 2 wins in a row and possibly win the rubber match against Carmella? Fingers crossed
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2021 23:24:02 GMT -5
A little off topic, but I love how everyone is trying to make sure that this kid has as awesome of a life as possible without a father. Its nice to see people just be legit good human beings. The world needs more of that. On her documentary, her father died while her mother was still pregnant with her so Liv had to be raised by a single mother with four other siblings. So she probably can identify with the kid more than anyone else on the roster. I've yet to see the documentary, but I didn't know that about her. It makes me even happier for her that she at least made it to WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2021 11:26:31 GMT -5
Are you ready to celebrate Liv Morgan's Money In The Bank qualifier victory over [insert] in advance tonight? 'cause I'm!
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Post by john84 on Jun 25, 2021 11:29:09 GMT -5
Are you ready to celebrate Liv Morgan's Money In The Bank qualifier victory over [insert] in advance tonight? 'cause I'm! I'm ready to watch. I don't want to jinx her by saying I'm getting ready to celebrate but I sure do have my fingers and toes crossed.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 25, 2021 13:31:00 GMT -5
Are you ready to celebrate Liv Morgan's Money In The Bank qualifier victory over [insert] in advance tonight? 'cause I'm! Does Smackdown even have enough women to do qualifying matches especially with them doing four people for each brand this year? Not including Bianca whose champion and Tamina/Natalya who are Tag Champions and have been appearing on just Raw lately all you have is Bayley, Liv, and Carmella.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2021 20:46:34 GMT -5
LIV MORGAN IS IN A 2 FIGHT WINNING STREAK AND GOING INTO MONEY IN THE BANK MATCH! \o/
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 25, 2021 20:53:27 GMT -5
Do it for Ruby, boo!
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 25, 2021 21:39:37 GMT -5
I'm okay with this booking.
Bianca Belair is like Razor Ramon.
Open challenge. Doesn't take "Livy" seriously.
Small package. 1-2-3.
Why not. Something to shake things up!
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Post by john84 on Jun 25, 2021 21:50:07 GMT -5
I'm okay with this booking. Bianca Belair is like Razor Ramon. Open challenge. Doesn't take "Livy" seriously. Small package. 1-2-3. Why not. Something to shake things up! I actually like the idea The Rick Jericho.
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Post by john84 on Jun 25, 2021 22:05:57 GMT -5
Liv legit just became my new RAW Women's Champion on my Journey of Wrestling game by climbing the ladder to take the title of Asuka in a 10-women ladder match lol. Legit didn't even pick her to win I just simmed it lol.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 26, 2021 4:54:03 GMT -5
LIV MORGAN IS IN A 2 FIGHT WINNING STREAK AND GOING INTO MONEY IN THE BANK MATCH! \o/ Hate to be a Debbie Downer but she still hasn't officially been announced for the match. Website still just has Carmella listed with them also mentioning her winning to get in which isn't true as Sonya just let her in. It's probably likely she'll get in with the limited amount of women but you never know. Tamina and Natalya were shown watching backstage so I guess they are going to try and get in too. I could also see Sasha returning and getting a spot. It was played up more like if Liv had impressed Sonya enough to get a spot which makes no sense since she's won two of her last three matches against Carmella so you think that would be enough to get her in. Unless they are doing some sort of a storyline where Sonya makes her jump through hoops to qualify which makes no sense as there really hasn't been any history between the two so why would Sonya have it in for her? If it Mandy it would make more sense since they have history and Sonya has an axe to grind against her for kayfabe ending her in ring career. At the same time why is she giving Carmella so much favorable treatment other then them both being heels? I get they have a really limited roster and it's hard to come up with ways to fill the spots when you don't even have enough women to do qualifying but I think they could do better.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 8:08:00 GMT -5
LIV MORGAN IS IN A 2 FIGHT WINNING STREAK AND GOING INTO MONEY IN THE BANK MATCH! \o/ Hate to be a Debbie Downer but she still hasn't officially been announced for the match. Website still just has Carmella listed with them also mentioning her winning to get in which isn't true as Sonya just let her in. It's probably likely she'll get in with the limited amount of women but you never know. Tamina and Natalya were shown watching backstage so I guess they are going to try and get in too. I could also see Sasha returning and getting a spot. It was played up more like if Liv had impressed Sonya enough to get a spot which makes no sense since she's won two of her last three matches against Carmella so you think that would be enough to get her in. Unless they are doing some sort of a storyline where Sonya makes her jump through hoops to qualify which makes no sense as there really hasn't been any history between the two so why would Sonya have it in for her? If it Mandy it would make more sense since they have history and Sonya has an axe to grind against her for kayfabe ending her in ring career. At the same time why is she giving Carmella so much favorable treatment other then them both being heels? I get they have a really limited roster and it's hard to come up with ways to fill the spots when you don't even have enough women to do qualifying but I think they could do better. Awww shit, you're right. Maybe it all will lead into bigger things, regardless... www.wwe.com/videos/liv-morgan-knows-that-hard-work-makes-victory-sweeter-june-25-2021
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 9:22:56 GMT -5
I'm okay with this booking. Bianca Belair is like Razor Ramon. Open challenge. Doesn't take "Livy" seriously. Small package. 1-2-3. Why not. Something to shake things up! I wouldn't even need Liv to win. Just give them 10 minutes and I think they'd be able to tell a good story.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 26, 2021 14:56:54 GMT -5
Hate to be a Debbie Downer but she still hasn't officially been announced for the match. Website still just has Carmella listed with them also mentioning her winning to get in which isn't true as Sonya just let her in. It's probably likely she'll get in with the limited amount of women but you never know. Tamina and Natalya were shown watching backstage so I guess they are going to try and get in too. I could also see Sasha returning and getting a spot. It was played up more like if Liv had impressed Sonya enough to get a spot which makes no sense since she's won two of her last three matches against Carmella so you think that would be enough to get her in. Unless they are doing some sort of a storyline where Sonya makes her jump through hoops to qualify which makes no sense as there really hasn't been any history between the two so why would Sonya have it in for her? If it Mandy it would make more sense since they have history and Sonya has an axe to grind against her for kayfabe ending her in ring career. At the same time why is she giving Carmella so much favorable treatment other then them both being heels? I get they have a really limited roster and it's hard to come up with ways to fill the spots when you don't even have enough women to do qualifying but I think they could do better. Awww shit, you're right. Maybe it all will lead into bigger things, regardless... www.wwe.com/videos/liv-morgan-knows-that-hard-work-makes-victory-sweeter-june-25-2021What's weird is it seemed like even Liv and the interviewer were confused whether she's in the match or not. Interviewer acted like she was then Liv corrected her and said it didn't she wasn't officially in but then her promo was talking like she was in. I really don't why they don't just announce as like I said it makes no sense why Carmella gets a spot automatically and she doesn't even though she's beat Carmella in two to one in their recent series. Unless it's leading to some sort of feud with Sonya whom going by interviews doesn't seem to be in any hurry to return to the ring so that would be pointless. Only thing I can think of is maybe they are undecided with Sasha's return and so they don't want to give Liv a spot until they know, and the Incredible Dull Duo are I guess already pegged for the other two spots.
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