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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 19, 2023 15:59:03 GMT -5
Kraven would have made for an outstanding Spidey solo movie villain. But Sony gonna Sony. Looks like he is going to be a great character in the Spider-Man 2 game
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 19, 2023 15:59:11 GMT -5
You'd think with the scrambling mad house dumpster fire DC's been... pretty much with everything post-Shazam that people would realize, "Just trying to make Marvel 2 happen by sheer force of will isn't going to work."
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 19, 2023 16:24:04 GMT -5
*can’t tell anyone I enjoyed the trailer* …uh yeah…Kraven more like Lame-en…amirite? It did have a scene where Kraven uses bear traps as melee weapons. That was pretty neat.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jun 19, 2023 16:27:40 GMT -5
So, when do we get the movie about the burgular that killed Uncle Ben?
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Jun 19, 2023 16:29:52 GMT -5
I gotta be honest: this looks schlocky in a way that’s right up my guilty pleasure alley, in a “Dracula Untold” kind of way.
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Post by Red Mage Riot on Jun 19, 2023 17:17:28 GMT -5
That trailer....is a shame. Again, Kraven is my favorite Spidey villain, from my favorite rogue's gallery in comics. That said, this looks like it's gonna be bad in a very "Rifftraxable" way, so that'll be fun on a bun .
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Post by The Spelunker! on Jun 19, 2023 17:20:20 GMT -5
This looks really fun. Sold me.
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Post by DSR on Jun 19, 2023 18:23:50 GMT -5
Looks like the kinda comic book movies that were getting made before the MCU started. Which, I have a bit of nostalgia for. So f*** it, I'm down for this.
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Post by Blade on Jun 19, 2023 21:16:44 GMT -5
I'm just amused he somehow didn't get a trace of his father's accent.
Honestly the only way to go with a Kraven solo story is pathos and especially as protagonist "you're descending into becoming what you opposed" isn't the worst idea, but I can't say the trailer makes it look great (also it has very little to do with the actual comic character, but w/e).
Mostly the problem is that the kind of horrible violence he's engaging in ought to be presented as a horrific thing, a sign that his grip on sanity is weakening, that his humanity is being lost or whatever, and instead it's clipped and presented as an edgy antihero doing one liners. Like we shouldn't be cheering that Kraven casually and brutally kills people, or what is even the point of the character?
Of course the problem as always is that the one Kraven story really worth filming is Kraven's Last Hunt, and that requires a backhistory that doesn't exist in the movies to land right (also he kills himself at the end and has really, really homoerotic overtones with Spider-man, neither of which is likely to seem like a great idea to studio execs).
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 19, 2023 21:30:43 GMT -5
I'm just amused he somehow didn't get a trace of his father's accent. I'm not even sure what Kraven's accent is supposed to be. In places it's typical Brit-doing-an-American accent, while others it sounds like ATJ is still on the set of Bullet Train.
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Post by IgnahtaSempria on Jun 19, 2023 21:35:12 GMT -5
So in this movie, Kraven has super magical animal controlling powers, on top of his usual enhanced abilities? And rather than getting the abilities from a mixture of herbs, he gets them from... lion blood?
...they made Alyosha. They made Alyosha Kravinoff and slapped Sergei's name on him.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 19, 2023 22:14:04 GMT -5
So in this movie, Kraven has super magical animal controlling powers, on top of his usual enhanced abilities? And rather than getting the abilities from a mixture of herbs, he gets them from... lion blood? ...they made Alyosha. They made Alyosha Kravinoff and slapped Sergei's name on him. Well, it was originally tiger blood. But they couldn't book Charlie Sheen.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 19, 2023 23:01:49 GMT -5
Kraven would have made for an outstanding Spidey solo movie villain. But Sony gonna Sony. Sony again making things backwards. Love Kraven but movie looks generic. Looks good but generic. The scene where there is many spiders above him seem to be inspired by the training he did to beat Spiderman by eating 1000 live spiders in one room. But it lacks the impact without spiderman
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jun 20, 2023 0:48:36 GMT -5
Kraven would have made for an outstanding Spidey solo movie villain. But Sony gonna Sony. For real. I’ve read so much good fanfic of Kraven in a Spidey movie since the early 2000s. And this is how dude ends up on the big screen. I'm just amused he somehow didn't get a trace of his father's accent. I'm not even sure what Kraven's accent is supposed to be. In places it's typical Brit-doing-an-American accent, while others it sounds like ATJ is still on the set of Bullet Train. I’ve heavily criticized ATJ in the past but dude was great in Bullet Train. Kind of a bummer. And this is rated R?! Morbius was PG-13. This is gonna die at the b.o. As always I’m amazed at the amount of money thrown away in Hollywood and how it’s done 🫤
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 20, 2023 1:39:05 GMT -5
I’ve heavily criticized ATJ in the past but dude was great in Bullet Train. Kind of a bummer. Agreed. I've never thought he was a bad actor, he's just always been a room temperature actor, never really standing out in anything. In Bullet Train he definitely seemed to find his niche, to the point where if the rumours of him being the studio's choice for the new James Bond are true I could get behind it... on the condition that the character direction is more Brosnan than Craig.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 20, 2023 1:53:09 GMT -5
You'd think with the scrambling mad house dumpster fire DC's been... pretty much with everything post-Shazam that people would realize, "Just trying to make Marvel 2 happen by sheer force of will isn't going to work." Especially since Sony has been failing to do so since at least 2014 with the failure of Amazing Spider-man 2... the Failure of Morbius (twice!)... as far as I can tell Venom mainly just people finding the Venom series funny and more goofy fun rather than as like legitimately good but they make money so I guess that's a win in their column <_< Garauntee that someone calls him Craven as an insult... and then later he meets him again and says something like you are right I am KRAVEN! If not that is totally going to be the made up Morbin time quote of the film... >_>
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Post by DSR on Jun 20, 2023 2:55:09 GMT -5
You'd think with the scrambling mad house dumpster fire DC's been... pretty much with everything post-Shazam that people would realize, "Just trying to make Marvel 2 happen by sheer force of will isn't going to work." Especially since Sony has been failing to do so since at least 2014 with the failure of Amazing Spider-man 2... the Failure of Morbius (twice!)... as far as I can tell Venom mainly just people finding the Venom series funny and more goofy fun rather than as like legitimately good but they make money so I guess that's a win in their column <_< Garauntee that someone calls him Craven as an insult... and then later he meets him again and says something like you are right I am KRAVEN! If not that is totally going to be the made up Morbin time quote of the film... >_> "You were right...I! Am! KRAVEN! WITH A K!" "What's the significance of that?" "Like, it's a name. Instead of a word meaning cowardly." "Oh...Cool?" "Y'know what, f*** you!" *bites nose off*
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Jun 20, 2023 3:25:00 GMT -5
Man I can’t wait till Spider-Man finally fight the Rhino in a live action film..
Watches trailer..
Awe shit
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 20, 2023 3:35:54 GMT -5
Oh and the post credit scene of the movie is going to be that "there's an animal inside all of us" thing repeated and shock of shocks his brother is going to be the Chameleon...
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Jun 20, 2023 3:38:08 GMT -5
Where is his large bright yellow lion mane jacket?
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