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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Sept 3, 2023 11:54:35 GMT -5
Back muscles do not equal talent.
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Post by XIII on Sept 3, 2023 12:10:30 GMT -5
I generally don’t think that she’s as bad as she’s made out to be, that said she’s shouldn’t be a featured player in the singles division,
HHH loves his jacked lady hosses though so it is what it is.
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on Sept 3, 2023 12:11:13 GMT -5
I generally don’t think that she’s as bad as she’s made out to be, that said she’s shouldn’t be a featured player in the singles division, HHH loves his jacked lady hosses though so it is what it is. She's a fine wrestler, the lack of a personality is just what's always held her... back. Maybe one day she'll be a star, but for now they probably need to go back to the drawing board with her.
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Post by asuka007 on Sept 3, 2023 13:10:13 GMT -5
The problem is, who else credible is left to face Rhea now? Especially if they want to save her vs. Becky for Mania? Maybe Shayna. But that’s about it. Bird Girl has gotten the most heat on her…which probably means that HBK just does whatever the f*** he wants booking wise. 😂 Pretty much. I mean they also could have let her and Candice have a competitive match and people could see what the latter is really capable of. But nah, let’s have Rhea kill her in a minute instead.
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Post by mistery on Sept 3, 2023 15:28:55 GMT -5
I mean the problem is that Triple H very clearly thinks she is one of the big three pillars of the division going forward, along with Rhea and Bianca. Let's not forget her celebration segment after she beat Iyo for the NXT Women's Title, where you had her, Bianca, and Rhea all celebrating together, and commentary claiming she saved the division from a reign of terror (even though Raquel's run as champ was largely forgettable and uh...pretty cold).
And the fact that they continued to push her as a babyface despite the audience clearly backing Dakota Kai over her, at every single turn. Can Raquel break out as a star? Maybe. But it's not likely, and Triple H would be better off just making Iyo and Dakota the other pillars over Raquel at this point. Both have much more dedicated fanbases and actual charisma.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Sept 3, 2023 18:02:37 GMT -5
I generally don’t think that she’s as bad as she’s made out to be, that said she’s shouldn’t be a featured player in the singles division, HHH loves his jacked lady hosses though so it is what it is. She's a fine wrestler, the lack of a personality is just what's always held her... back. Maybe one day she'll be a star, but for now they probably need to go back to the drawing board with her. Agreed. People saying she doesn't have talent is false to me. She has a TON of talent, she's just not being booked to her strengths (hah!), and she has zero charisma. If she can find a gimmick/different side of herself other than 45 back poses before the match starts she'll do well. I think she has potential, but not in her current presentation. She's like the reverse Jade from AEW who had charisma for days, but wasn't that good in the ring. Raquel is competent in the ring, but is bland as bread. If we could morph them together you'd have a crazy good superstar.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Sept 3, 2023 18:30:46 GMT -5
Honestly I don't even really entirely agree with the idea she's particularly good in the ring. In NXT, sure, but she's regressed hard on the main roster to where she's just constantly blowing stuff.
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on Sept 4, 2023 5:08:26 GMT -5
She's a fine wrestler, the lack of a personality is just what's always held her... back. Maybe one day she'll be a star, but for now they probably need to go back to the drawing board with her. Agreed. People saying she doesn't have talent is false to me. She has a TON of talent, she's just not being booked to her strengths (hah!), and she has zero charisma. Some people tend to get carried away with their criticism of the women, but it is what it is. We all have our things. It's not like she's any of the Gallus guys.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 4, 2023 5:13:54 GMT -5
Rhea's a lot cooler than her, and that's kind of a problem when Raquel's supposed to be the face.
Short of maybe turning her heel and making her someone else's Diesel, I don't really know what I'd even do with her as a booker. She's done the tag thing, and has been competent at it, but singles-wise, she isn't clicking in the slightest.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Sept 4, 2023 5:25:43 GMT -5
Agreed. People saying she doesn't have talent is false to me. She has a TON of talent, she's just not being booked to her strengths (hah!), and she has zero charisma. Some people tend to get carried away with their criticism of the women, but it is what it is. We all have our things. It's not like she's any of the Gallus guys. You have a point there, I can actually understand Raquel Rhea's a lot cooler than her, and that's kind of a problem when Raquel's supposed to be the face. Short of maybe turning her heel and making her someone else's Diesel, I don't really know what I'd even do with her as a booker. She's done the tag thing, and has been competent at it, but singles-wise, she isn't clicking in the slightest. I think working her as a bruiser that doesn't talk would work better. Stop smiling. Stop posing your back muscles every 5 minutes. Get her a mouthpiece that can put her over, and see if she can build something from that. I'm not saying everyone has to turn heel, but the only time Raquel was remotely interesting was when she was. They should've pushed Dakota in NXT over her honestly. And kept Raquel as her Diesel until the eventual split down the line.
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Post by Chiral on Sept 4, 2023 17:07:31 GMT -5
I wish I could take credit for this, saw it on a ITYSL wrestle group
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Post by theironyuppie on Sept 5, 2023 1:03:19 GMT -5
It's a shame she can't wrestle Chelsea more often. That squash made her look great.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Sept 6, 2023 2:17:45 GMT -5
Guys, all Raquel needs is a returning Aliyah and their BFF chemistry will fuel the women's division for months to come.
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Post by Ryushinku on Sept 6, 2023 3:22:31 GMT -5
I think returning to tags may be a good idea, as a sparky partner can help carry the charisma for the team, and Racquel makes for a great hot tag. Don't need to overthink it much, it was working very well with Liv.
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Post by mistery on Sept 8, 2023 9:47:33 GMT -5
For those curious, Dave gave the Raquel/Rhea match at Payback a whopping 1.75 stars. The lowest rated match of the weekend.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Sept 8, 2023 17:06:04 GMT -5
For those curious, Dave gave the Raquel/Rhea match at Payback a whopping 1.75 stars. The lowest rated match of the weekend. Mami can only do so much...
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 8, 2023 17:16:52 GMT -5
Rhea's a lot cooler than her, and that's kind of a problem when Raquel's supposed to be the face. Short of maybe turning her heel and making her someone else's Diesel, I don't really know what I'd even do with her as a booker. She's done the tag thing, and has been competent at it, but singles-wise, she isn't clicking in the slightest. Call up Barry Horowitz for his old jackets and give her the "pat on the back" shtick.
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Post by J is Justice on Sept 8, 2023 17:30:39 GMT -5
The Emi/Kris match on Dynamite is how they should've booked Rhea/Raquel.
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Post by mistery on Sept 8, 2023 17:52:06 GMT -5
Honestly I'm hoping Rhea just straight up beats Raquel on RAW this week and moves onto another feud. The problem is that she has no one else to feud with, unless Liv returns soon. And even then we are just in a massive holding pattern until whenever they decide to pull the trigger on the Becky/Rhea feud (Mania season most likely). Where I'm not even confident Becky will beat Rhea. At which point we'll be entering yet another overly long misery reign until probably Summerslam of next year at the earliest.
Raquel should probably just be a tag wrestler or heater for a cowardly heel at most. She's not singles championship material.
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Post by Doo Doo Dickhead on Sept 8, 2023 18:24:59 GMT -5
The Emi/Kris match on Dynamite is how they should've booked Rhea/Raquel. The way it was laid out was really the biggest problem I had with it.
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