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Post by cjh on Oct 2, 2021 20:58:12 GMT -5
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Post by theironyuppie on Oct 3, 2021 8:05:39 GMT -5
Interesting. Personally I'd prefer some extra Old School cards as that's an area they haven't updated in ages.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Oct 3, 2021 11:56:35 GMT -5
Damn it, just upload both.
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Post by cornettesracket on Oct 3, 2021 19:20:27 GMT -5
Damn it, just upload both. I agree. I’d be more than happy with either(slightly more happy with old house shows being honest) |
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Post by Sam Punk on Oct 9, 2021 1:36:02 GMT -5
Good to hear!
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Post by chronocross on Oct 18, 2021 10:21:40 GMT -5
Watching the 3/25/84 show now, forgot that Andre got busted open by Roddy Piper on this show.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Oct 18, 2021 11:16:10 GMT -5
That April 1984 show contains a very rare, in-ring WWF appearance for JJ Dillon, challenging Tito Santana for the IC Title.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Oct 18, 2021 16:56:47 GMT -5
That April 1984 show contains a very rare, in-ring WWF appearance for JJ Dillon, challenging Tito Santana for the IC Title. Funny that JJ gets a title shot, while Arn and Tully never get a IC title shot despite their singles credential. Though if it meant wrestling Warrior, maybe that is a blessing. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Oct 18, 2021 20:48:59 GMT -5
Hogan/Orndorff from the February 84 show is quite good for ring psychology. Orndorff hits Hogan with the piledriver and doesn't pin him right away, gloats over his "obvious win" and Hogan kicks out at 2. Hogan hulks up but Orndorff manages to gain control AGAIN. He goes for the piledriver again but is too close to the ropes and Hogan backdrops him over the top rope winning by countout. Now you've got the idea out there that if Orndorff hadn't gloated, he would have beaten Hulk clean in the middle, and you also have the idea that Hogan never actually pinned Orndorff so a rematch is not only obvious but has meaning.
March 1984 has an Akira Maeda match and a really good Santana/Orndorff IC title match (their rematch at the May show may even be better)
and the August show is famous for being the only MSG appearance of the Fabulous Freebirds
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Post by britishbulldog on Oct 18, 2021 22:06:56 GMT -5
The network is such garbage now
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Post by chronocross on Oct 19, 2021 6:37:26 GMT -5
Hogan/Orndorff from the February 84 show is quite good for ring psychology. Orndorff hits Hogan with the piledriver and doesn't pin him right away, gloats over his "obvious win" and Hogan kicks out at 2. Hogan hulks up but Orndorff manages to gain control AGAIN. He goes for the piledriver again but is too close to the ropes and Hogan backdrops him over the top rope winning by countout. Now you've got the idea out there that if Orndorff hadn't gloated, he would have beaten Hulk clean in the middle, and you also have the idea that Hogan never actually pinned Orndorff so a rematch is not only obvious but has meaning. March 1984 has an Akira Maeda match and a really good Santana/Orndorff IC title match (their rematch at the May show may even be better) and the August show is famous for being the only MSG appearance of the Fabulous Freebirds According to Greg Valentine's shoot interview, they were going to go with Paul Orndorff as the IC Champ but they felt he may not have done the favors once the time came to drop the belt so they went with Valentine instead. EDIT: Just saw the Orndorff/Santana rematch from 5/21/84 and Santana takes a crazy bump over the top rope, it even shocked Monsoon who said "What a bump!" in amazement. |
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Post by CeilingFan on Oct 19, 2021 7:24:42 GMT -5
The MSG shows were great in 1984. They were bad in 85 and 86.
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Post by chronocross on Oct 19, 2021 12:42:46 GMT -5
The Iron Sheik vs. Sgt. Slaughter had plenty of heat, they weren't technical masterpieces but the crowds were into it big time.
After their first match on the 4/23/84 show, during the pull apart backstage Sgt. Slaughter is cursing up a storm and Vince even gets involved.
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Post by thegoon21 on Oct 20, 2021 9:39:57 GMT -5
That April 1984 show contains a very rare, in-ring WWF appearance for JJ Dillon, challenging Tito Santana for the IC Title. Was JJ managing Tully in mid-Atlantic at this time? Vince had started his takeover so seems odd JJ would work a WWF show here but maybe he wasn’t doing much for Crockett at this particular time |
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Post by cjh on Oct 20, 2021 9:43:29 GMT -5
That April 1984 show contains a very rare, in-ring WWF appearance for JJ Dillon, challenging Tito Santana for the IC Title. Was JJ managing Tully in mid-Atlantic at this time? Vince had started his takeover so seems odd JJ would work a WWF show here but maybe he wasn’t doing much for Crockett at this particular time Dillon started managing Blanchard in January 1986. |
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Post by britishbulldog on Oct 20, 2021 10:52:30 GMT -5
One thing I love about old shows. The way the card is built. Having true undercard guys mays sense. But they weren’t generally jokes. SD Jones was treated as a viable threat and smart journeyman.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Oct 22, 2021 9:15:35 GMT -5
They still won’t reupload the War To Settle the Score and The Brawl to end it all that were on the network for a week
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Post by James Fabiano on Oct 22, 2021 17:56:31 GMT -5
They still won’t reupload the War To Settle the Score and The Brawl to end it all that were on the network for a week I have this feeling MTV has some kind of stake in the shows. |
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Post by cjh on Oct 22, 2021 18:05:01 GMT -5
They still won’t reupload the War To Settle the Score and The Brawl to end it all that were on the network for a week I have this feeling MTV has some kind of stake in the shows. MTV didn't air the entire cards, just Moolah/Richter (Brawl) and Hogan/Piper (War). Plus, Hogan/Piper is on the Network via the "Roddy Piper's Greatest Hits" Coliseum Video. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Oct 24, 2021 1:38:03 GMT -5
I had a weird epiphany about a year or two ago. Things are fuzzy but it appears that J.J. only lasted in the company for that one match. From the looks of it, he went back to JCP almost immediately and wrestled for a bit before transitioning into mostly a manager role but wrestled occasionally. This is basically what Bobby Heenan did when he first joined the WWF later that year.
What if J.J. never left? Imagine he sticks around and evolves into a manager. Suddenly there's no longer that spot for Heenan to come in at all. Heenan instead winds up in JCP and possibly heads down that road J.J. did and winds up managing the Four Horsemen. Conversely, could J.J. hold his own managing the likes of Big John Studd, Paul Orndorff, Ken Patera, etc etc against Hulk Hogan?
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