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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 6, 2021 8:42:51 GMT -5
I love that Crispin Glover had this played on David Letterman in his second appearance AKA his first appearance back after he nearly kicked Letterman in the face and Letterman freaked out. After it plays Letterman just dead pans, “I thought that was going to be something stupid.” It was actually his third appearance. During his second appearance, he showed off weird Lava art that he had recently made. In any event Crispin Glover was always a good guest. I remember the first time I saw him on a talk show. "I had no idea the dad from Back to the Future was out of his mind."
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Post by ookkie on Dec 6, 2021 9:35:55 GMT -5
I wouldn’t say that I’m afraid of clowns… I mean, if I see a picture of one I don’t freak out or anything.
BUT I have generally found them unsettling in the sense that the whole over-the-top happy/joking demeanour has always bothered me. I think it’s the idea that it’s a clearly put-on expression of joy or merriment which bothers me somehow; it comes across as disingenuous.
Plus I’ve found that part of their act involves getting all up in the crowd’s face, which I generally dislike.
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Post by 4real on Dec 6, 2021 10:30:06 GMT -5
I get why people are but I see them more as creepy then scary when they are in movies.
Ventriloquist dummies though? They can bugger off.
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Post by Casey Jones (AKA MrThrowback) on Dec 6, 2021 20:41:14 GMT -5
I love clowns. I even have some clown decorations around my house.
I have a theory. That since the day we are born, we start seeing faces. We recognize where the eyes, nose and mouth are usually placed and in what size ratio they are to each other and how they fit on our faces. Because clown makeup was first used to show facial expression at far distance while on stage. The eyes, nose and mouth are painted larger and brighter than usual. That tricks people's minds into seeing something unusual without being consciously aware. Sometimes when we think something is unusual, it translates in our brains as fear.
I don't know if I explained that clearly. But it's something I've thought about when it comes to people's fear of clowns
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Dec 6, 2021 22:43:40 GMT -5
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 7, 2021 1:30:48 GMT -5
I love clowns. I even have some clown decorations around my house. I have a theory. That since the day we are born, we start seeing faces. We recognize where the eyes, nose and mouth are usually placed and in what size ratio they are to each other and how they fit on our faces. Because clown makeup was first used to show facial expression at far distance while on stage. The eyes, nose and mouth are painted larger and brighter than usual. That tricks people's minds into seeing something unusual without being consciously aware. Sometimes when we think something is unusual, it translates in our brains as fear. I don't know if I explained that clearly. But it's something I've thought about when it comes to people's fear of clowns That does seem possible. I do know masks, mascot costumes, etc, can trigger some of the same fear responses in people. It being very US-centric is something I find interesting, though, given I'm sure coulrophobia pops up in Europe, Mexico, etc, but I see a lot more examples of earnest, unironic clowning from there in entertainment. That may be part of it, too, in that clowns rarely appear in any US media in a straight-forward fashion. It's almost always a subversion.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Dec 8, 2021 3:14:40 GMT -5
Now that I think of it, I do remember being scared of a Ronald McDonald poster when I was little.
I just assume most people's clown fear has something to do with a bad association they had with one when they were younger. Something they saw in a movie or a weird picture that scared them as a kid.
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Post by Casey Jones (AKA MrThrowback) on Dec 8, 2021 12:53:36 GMT -5
Now that I think of it, I do remember being scared of a Ronald McDonald poster when I was little. I just assume most people's clown fear has something to do with a bad association they had with one when they were younger. Something they saw in a movie or a weird picture that scared them as a kid. I normally feel the same way. But when my niece was a baby, she was terrified of clowns. What could she have experienced?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 8, 2021 13:03:20 GMT -5
I am curious, are any of you coulrophobic, which is to say, are you afraid of clowns? I have heard before that it's significantly more common in the US than elsewhere, with it being a source of surprise to the Japanese, for instance, with Kosuke Yabuchi, producer of ARMS on Nintendo Switch, joking that he'd learned a weakness of Americans when Nintendo of America staff were spooked by Lola Pop. It's funny, I watched the IT miniseries when I was very young, saw Killer Klowns from Outer Space, was exposed to Joker and other "scary clowns", and I've never developed the fear. Hell, my dad met John Wayne Gacy, though it was before the killings had begun, to my knowledge. I just personally do not get why something like this would be scary. (Both of these are Pixi Payasita, a clown from Mexico who has something of an internet following, but who also legitimately is a working clown and does parties and events. As a matter of fact, she recently celebrated 27 years of clowning, as well as a birthday, so it brought the idea to mind.) Depends on the situation. I do have a general distrust/heightened defense/motivation-questioning of anyone where I cannot see their identity... But on the other hand...
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 8, 2021 13:06:16 GMT -5
I feel like people exaggerate how creepy clowns and old dolls are. I grew up with Bozo, Ronald, and Cesear Romero's Joker so I've never thought of them as creepy. I think because they’re just now trying to do new Bozo stuff and you don’t see Ronald around much, the rep of clowns gets creepier when the wholesome ones aren’t as prominent. Joker is everywhere, you got the Gacy documentaries, the most popular good clowns today are maybe ICP and their music isn’t exactly family-friendly.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Dec 8, 2021 14:27:04 GMT -5
I don't mind them, I'm more of a mime guy to be honest.
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Post by Demented on Dec 8, 2021 14:33:41 GMT -5
I don't mind them, I'm more of a mime guy to be honest. Do you know what you call a murderous mime?
Silent... but... deadly.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 8, 2021 15:54:23 GMT -5
The first horror movie I saw was IT and the first "mature" movie I saw was Burton's Batman, so I had a phase of finding them scary. Now I just find them more annoying.
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Post by agent817 on Dec 8, 2021 19:20:48 GMT -5
I remember hearing some girls finding clowns creepy. I never really got it. Hell, I don't even dislike clowns like some people do. Also, who on Earth would find this clown creepy?
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