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Post by Kalmia on Jan 7, 2022 15:34:23 GMT -5
Nah, the Bucks still bring it when they're asked to and are absolute masters of multi-man matches. They're just in the stage of slowly building their next story and currently, it doesn't involve facing off against another tag team. When the Elite/Undisputed Era stuff really kicks off, they'll be back front and centre.
Let's not do that WWE thing of thinking that if a wrestler/team isn't directly involved with the titles it means they're finished or the company is moving on from them.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 7, 2022 15:35:14 GMT -5
The Bucks have been a focal part of te main event for more than a year,of course anything they do now will feel like a "step down" but they need a time away from the spotlight. They are still regarded as the likely best tag team in the world, no one has moved on,its just not their time right now Pretty much this. Ya gotta rotate every so often to get people featured and to keep things fresh. Though clearly a big thing in 2022 will be them and Kenny vs the UE
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Post by The Ichi on Jan 7, 2022 15:45:21 GMT -5
I swear we've travelled the full spectrum of "They lose too much - They win too much - They're on tv too much - They're not on tv enough"
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jan 7, 2022 16:13:03 GMT -5
I wish. It’s not something I say often, but I completely agree with Cornette on them.
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Post by eJm on Jan 7, 2022 16:21:23 GMT -5
The Elite were dominant heel champions all over the product for most of last year, cycling them out of the spotlight for a bit after they've been triumphantly defeated by the good guys is pretty standard wrestling booking. It's also pretty standard television writing if you watch most major television programmes or even, the thing wrestling gets compared to, soaps. The big bad can't be the big bad all the time, you need new characters to revolve in and out with their own stories to tell or else it gets stale.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jan 7, 2022 16:23:16 GMT -5
I swear we've travelled the full spectrum of "They lose too much - They win too much - They're on tv too much - They're not on tv enough" I think all wrestling companies can't really win sometimes with this stuff. Same as the 'rushed through the story - story is taking too long'.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 16:58:35 GMT -5
They're on literally every episode of Dynamite.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jan 7, 2022 17:45:59 GMT -5
How many people in AEW have had super dominant and not seen a drop overall in status since losing? That's how wrestling works. Moxley is the only one I can thnk of who had a major run and held on around a top spot for a while afterward and even he eventually slid down the card a bit. But it's worth keeping in mind that even at the outset of the company, the Bucks were some of the guys who took an early backseat and intentionally didn't do too much too big while the show got up and running. I don't think they see their space as being too high up all the time, they're smart about knowing when it's worth doing somethign big and when it's not.
And they are building up to something big right now. Elite vs. Undisputed Era is very likely and that's going to be a marquee match for whichever special Dynamite it happens on, if not the Revolution card. I don't get the vibe at all that people are moving on from the Bucks, I get the vibe that people who hate the Bucks and want to see that hate vindicated are jumping to conclusions and hoping that people are moving on from them.
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Post by dbrussel on Jan 7, 2022 18:35:18 GMT -5
With Elite vs Cole & RedDragon and Bucks vs Hardys being very possible feuds in 2022, this threat could age badly
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Jan 7, 2022 18:39:32 GMT -5
Nah, they're still one of the most featured acts on the whole show even when they aren't wrestling and they're about to be in a top angle again with the whole Undisputed Era dissension. Also I still enjoy them. Like yeah I'm not really a fan of when they just do sketch comedy mid match but that's not rly a thing that happens often (and honestly it's kind of a really good idea to get thru TV matches okay) and when they have to bring it they Really bring it. Bucks vs. Lucha Bros was probably my fav AEW match of the last year.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 7, 2022 18:59:51 GMT -5
The Bucks hatedom that they get never gets old. The goalposts moved and the way people have to stretch these days to find shit wrong with them is just something else. They are one of the acts of wrestling imo where people are just desperate to say they are "fundamentally not sound", or they just "Aren't entertaining and their act is shit" and "That god damn insider comedy they do" they have to say it over and over and over again just to make sure everyone in the room gathered round that likes the thing heard them.
Like we get it, you don't like them... but the detractors seriously bring it up every time something is said about them, and very clearly they are in the minority because they are and continue to be insanely popular and aren't going anywhere any time soon. I've been watching these guys work now for like 15 years and every one of those years it seriously feels like people are still waiting for the Bucks to flame out. It seriously boggles my mind that people still try and treat them like flash in the pans or act like if they were gone tomorrow no one would care. The influence the Bucks have had on the wrestling industry imo speaks for itself, they've more than earned their place.
On their current AEW run? They are literally building an Elite vs Undispuuted feud which is going to be one of the potential selling points for Revolution as a whole... so yeah they're fine.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jan 7, 2022 19:03:39 GMT -5
With Elite vs Cole & RedDragon and Bucks vs Hardys being very possible feuds in 2022, this threat could age badly Not meant to be rude to the OP as a forewarning, but it aged badly the second it was made. Pretty sure this is the first week in ages The Young Bucks weren't on AEW TV in any capacity, and it's because Matt and Brandon got COVID. Even when Nick got COVID, Matt was around... they use them every week on Dynamite or Rampage because... they're one of the top featured acts in the company who people love that constantly draw numbers... and that's what they do lol.
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Post by King (Super) Dragunov on Jan 7, 2022 19:31:09 GMT -5
I feel the exact opposite. They helped carry the company in 2021 and put on some of the best matches of the year. They also had great matches with some very green teams with the likes of the Acclaimed and the Varsity Blondes. And the Lucha Bros winning the titles was the loudest pop I heard all year live for a reason. Beating the Bucks meant something. Putting over Jungle Boy meant something. And they can still put on great matches at almost anytime with anyone. They still fit in and should be an integral part of AEW's 2022. This. The only reason they feel "less important" is because that's how it's supposed to feel. They've stepped back a bit to let other people shine. They were all over the place in 2021, dominating the majority of the year, to finally get their comeuppance and shift focus to others. That's how wrestling should work. You build up enough heat for yourself, transfer that to others to help get them over, and then dip back a bit to let them have the spotlight. Much like the build, the fall from grace into a dormant phase is completely by design (esp. since Kenny is getting much needed recovery, and they'll need him for the 3 on 3, and they've been dealing with random injuries/Covid stuff on top of it so I assume they're using this time to rest and recover as much as possible too). They're brewing the UE vs. Elite feud, they'll bounce back then. And it'll be a banger feud that won't involve any titles, and has long term storytelling that pre-dates AEW being a thing.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Jan 7, 2022 19:54:29 GMT -5
They're a consistent ratings draw and one of the most over acts in the company. So, uh...huh? And yet, I still hate them. But they have their place.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 20:26:46 GMT -5
They're a consistent ratings draw and one of the most over acts in the company. So, uh...huh? And yet, I still hate them. But they have their place. I detest Brock Lesnar with every fiber of my being and I think he’s the worst thing to ever happen to professional wrestling. But, like, I don’t act like my subjective opinion is an objective fact. Bucks detractors act like it’s some kind of infallible truth that they’re “spot monkeys” or “glorified comedy gymnasts.” It’s not.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Jan 7, 2022 20:29:00 GMT -5
And yet, I still hate them. But they have their place. I detest Brock Lesnar with every fiber of my being and I think he’s the worst thing to ever happen to professional wrestling. But, like, I don’t act like my subjective opinion is an objective fact. Bucks detractors act like it’s some kind of infallible truth that they’re “spot monkeys” or “glorified comedy gymnasts.” It’s not. I'm not acting like my opinion is fact. What I don't appreciate is people being shit on for expressing an unpopular opinion about anything AEW. It's unhealthy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 20:31:21 GMT -5
I detest Brock Lesnar with every fiber of my being and I think he’s the worst thing to ever happen to professional wrestling. But, like, I don’t act like my subjective opinion is an objective fact. Bucks detractors act like it’s some kind of infallible truth that they’re “spot monkeys” or “glorified comedy gymnasts.” It’s not. I'm not acting like my opinion is fact. What I don't appreciate is people being shit on for expressing an unpopular opinion about anything AEW. It's unhealthy. That wasn’t meant to be directed at you, in particular. Just the general narrative that a certain tennis enthusiast from my hometown peddles that is the very lifeblood of his existence these days.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Jan 7, 2022 20:35:00 GMT -5
I'm not acting like my opinion is fact. What I don't appreciate is people being shit on for expressing an unpopular opinion about anything AEW. It's unhealthy. That wasn’t meant to be directed at you, in particular. Just the general narrative that a certain tennis enthusiast from my hometown peddles that is the very lifeblood of his existence these days. I have seen it happen to others on here but have held my silence. It's ok to like something and still have criticisms of it. Nothing's perfect.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2022 20:38:34 GMT -5
That wasn’t meant to be directed at you, in particular. Just the general narrative that a certain tennis enthusiast from my hometown peddles that is the very lifeblood of his existence these days. I have seen it happen to others on here but have held my silence. It's ok to like something and still have criticisms of it. Nothing's perfect. No, I completely agree with you. As Brian Zane says, like what you like, don’t be a d***. I don’t have an issue with people disliking the Bucks. Just the notion that it’s an objective fact that they’re spot monkeys and people like them in spite of it. I actually think their ring psychology tends to be really good.
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Post by mattyy on Jan 7, 2022 20:41:23 GMT -5
The Elite were dominant heel champions all over the product for most of last year, cycling them out of the spotlight for a bit after they've been triumphantly defeated by the good guys is pretty standard wrestling booking. especially if they're going to be turning face. I was so certain that they'd be turning on Kenny and aligning with Cole and the debuting Steen to form Matt Rushmore in AEW, but with Owens re-signing, I honestly think The Bucks are going to start their slow road back to a babyface turn, feuding with Paragon.
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