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Post by papagiorgio on Jan 15, 2022 7:44:16 GMT -5
I read the title of this thread at first as "Possible Spoilers* Current plans for WM: 38 title matches" and it sounded about right...
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Post by fg on Jan 15, 2022 7:55:18 GMT -5
Are they seriously gonna waste a year and a half dominant heel title run on someone like Rollins who doesn’t need the rub at all? Sure they will. Either that or make Reigns end of title reign be anticlimactic by turning him face before he loses it because fans are cheering him again.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 15, 2022 7:59:42 GMT -5
I sorta figure if it's Seth vs whoever that it'll be Big E or Owens. If it's the latter, that'd make sense as a "thanks for staying", plus it's at least someone who hasn't been WWE champion yet. Not an inspired choice, but I'd get it.
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Post by eJm on Jan 15, 2022 8:24:32 GMT -5
Honestly, I’d have Roman/Lesnar be title for title on night two and have two challengers face them on night one.
But then those two matches would be practical squashes since the challengers that could face them are non-existent.
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Post by mistery on Jan 15, 2022 9:28:54 GMT -5
Honestly, I’d have Roman/Lesnar be title for title on night two and have two challengers face them on night one. But then those two matches would be practical squashes since the challengers that could face them are non-existent. They aren't going to unify the titles. Maybe if both RAW and SD were on the same network it would be possible. But it's been hammered home by now that FOX and NBCU want their own titles, and get angry when one show gets preferential treatment.
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Post by eJm on Jan 15, 2022 9:34:54 GMT -5
Honestly, I’d have Roman/Lesnar be title for title on night two and have two challengers face them on night one. But then those two matches would be practical squashes since the challengers that could face them are non-existent. They aren't going to unify the titles. Maybe if both RAW and SD were on the same network it would be possible. But it's been hammered home by now that FOX and NBCU want their own titles, and get angry when one show gets preferential treatment. I mean, no, probably not. But it’d be way more interesting, really.
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Post by wildojinx on Jan 15, 2022 9:41:55 GMT -5
It seems like they're treading water until they can finally get Rock vs Roman.
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 15, 2022 9:43:00 GMT -5
It seems like they're treading water until they can finally get Rock vs Roman. Which is stupid because there’s a very good chance Rock never wrestles again.
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Post by wildojinx on Jan 15, 2022 9:46:33 GMT -5
It seems like they're treading water until they can finally get Rock vs Roman. Which is stupid because there’s a very good chance Rock never wrestles again. They'll hire the guy who plays College-age Dwayne on Young Rock and have him take on Roman.
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Post by mistery on Jan 15, 2022 9:47:04 GMT -5
But yeah, just from looking at the current card, this is on paper, looking like one of the weakest Wrestlemania cards in awhile. Depends on what the undercard is, but I have a feeling the women especially are going to get the short end of the stick, since it's pretty obvious that while there will be a women's tag title match, it will likely be Carmella/Zelina vs The Bella Twins (as they've made overtures that they want the tag titles and want a run with them), and the rest of the women who aren't in the title match are either left off the card entirely or thrown onto the pre-show, because WWE refuses to build up a midcard or any non-title feuds for people not named Charlotte.
This Wrestlemania might just end up being a catalyst for another movement to start featuring women more prominently, although WWE will likely just ignore it.
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Post by eJm on Jan 15, 2022 9:49:17 GMT -5
It seems like they're treading water until they can finally get Rock vs Roman. Which is stupid because there’s a very good chance Rock never wrestles again. I wouldn’t say very good chance. Like, I can absolutely imagine a scenario where bucketloads of money and an insurance policy is proposed for it to happen in Hollywood next year and would perk up the ears of a Netflix for when something like Red Notice 2/3 likely comes out. Would they accept that? Who knows? But WWE can offer that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2022 10:27:55 GMT -5
Which is stupid because there’s a very good chance Rock never wrestles again. I wouldn’t say very good chance. Like, I can absolutely imagine a scenario where bucketloads of money and an insurance policy is proposed for it to happen in Hollywood next year and would perk up the ears of a Netflix for when something like Red Notice 2/3 likely comes out. Would they accept that? Who knows? But WWE can offer that. The only insurance they could offer is putting him a tag match where he does nothing except for his big moves but that defeats the whole purpose IMO of waiting this gawd damn long to try and get that Roman Vs Rock match but then again WWE is forever desperate and Rock just sitting in the ring for 9hrs silently for them is worth it. And there is no ammount of money IMO Vince could offer short of selling WWE to him that would be enough to risk him getting hurt again and delaying who knows how many projects he will have in the pipeline by this time next year.....black adam 2 , red notice 48 etc.
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 15, 2022 10:30:40 GMT -5
The Rock suffered a pretty bad injury in his last full match that halted filming of a project he was working on. And that was a Mania 29.
Even if he is willing to go, I could totally see studios and/or insurance companies not wanting him to.
Also does anyone really care about Roman beating him at this point anyway? Like they was probably a time when that made sense. But that time passed awhile ago.
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Post by eJm on Jan 15, 2022 10:45:31 GMT -5
Hey, look, not saying it’s going to happen or anything but considering Rock hasn’t exactly shut the door on it now he’s more of a somebody with sway than he was when he was injured during the filming of Hercules, it feels more likely now than it ever was.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jan 15, 2022 10:58:04 GMT -5
Are they seriously gonna waste a year and a half dominant heel title run on someone like Rollins who doesn’t need the rub at all? You really thought WWE is giving anybody a rub after a long title run? They really never happens.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 15, 2022 11:13:29 GMT -5
I mean I guess Roman/Brock makes sense but a part of me is like, yeah, might as well make it champion vs champion.
Boy, does the RAW one sound dire. Seth has been doing good work but..who you pair him up with seems uninteresting. Still hyped for The Rumble though.
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Post by wildojinx on Jan 15, 2022 11:17:13 GMT -5
The Rock suffered a pretty bad injury in his last full match that halted filming of a project he was working on. And that was a Mania 29. Even if he is willing to go, I could totally see studios and/or insurance companies not wanting him to. Also does anyone really care about Roman beating him at this point anyway? Like they was probably a time when that made sense. But that time passed awhile ago. They'd probably do some "insider" angle by bringing up Rumble 15, "you tried to give me the rub and the fans rejected me, so I went and got succesful all on my own!" or something like that.
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Post by asuka007 on Jan 15, 2022 11:29:57 GMT -5
Anyone waiting for WWE to “build a new star” by letting them beat Roman finally, is likely being overly optimistic.
Like that WOULD be the logical thing to do I agree. But that is not how WWE does things these days.
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Post by government mule on Jan 15, 2022 11:45:50 GMT -5
Now I know how Bill Murray's character felt in Groundhog Day
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 15, 2022 16:55:53 GMT -5
Given the general flow and results of the matchup in the past, Brock vs. Roman really is WWE's Tanahashi vs. Okada and--wait why are you laughing no come back In all seriousness, it’s kind of amazing to look at Tanahashi vs. Okada and see how it worked so much better as an overarching story, but that’s because NJPW booked it that way from the get-go, not all stop and start and constant last minute changes and whatnot. They knew the narrative they wanted, they knew they wanted the two mens’ stories to intertwine at decisive points, so that’s exactly what they did. Said this in another thread, but what’s jarring here isn’t doing Roman/Brock again, it’s doing it again and there being absolutely zero indication that there’s anyone else being built to be in that spot on one day who isn’t already well into their career, ala guys like Edge and AJ already being older at this point. It’s just utter stagnation. Belair getting a big spot is the exception there, but yeah, can’t really play this up as a “crowning” win for her when that already came last year, and the division that title represents is basically torn down to the roots.
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