The F.A.N Film Megathread

[thechase]

I've never actually seen a lot of this version other than a fan-edited 'movie' a friend of mine made for me, although I own the entire series on DVD (one of the last things I bought out of Woolworths before it closed), but can't find it anywhere right now, so I'm curious as to it's reputation as it's getting a lot of attention again recently for reasons I'll get to in a moment.



The original was produced by Mainframe Entertainment (best known for Reboot, Beast Wars, War Planets and a lot of Barbie movies) and was originally conceived as a follow-up to the first Sam Raimi Spider-Man movie. It starred Neil Patrick Harris as Peter/Spidey and Lisa Loeb as Mary Jane. It also crossed over with the FOX movie version of Daredevil by including it's version of the Kingpin. The series also used characters like Kraven, Electro, Silver Sable, and several original villains and allies, including a unique character, a tech nerd called Indy who becomes a close interest of Peter.



It was cancelled within the span of a year, but developed over time a big cult following amongst the kids of the noughties who grew up with the Raimi movies, to the point now there are at least two efforts by groups of talented animators, writers, and actors to create an unofficial revival of the show to post on Youtube. I don't know how successful they'll ultimately be as their methods require crowd-funding and Marvel may clamp down on them, but I've seen their individual progress and it doesn't look bad at all. Wish I were that skilled for half the things I want to do with dormant properties.

[Mozenrath]

I understand it was the style at the time, but something about this series just makes me think if I typed "MELON", that Peter would demand I leave his apartment.

[Clash, Never a Meter Maid]

MTV has a sorely underrated animation legacy, say what you will about what they are currently.

[Saiyanic Panic]

Feb 7, 2022 7:33:22 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

I understand it was the style at the time, but something about this series just makes me think if I typed "MELON", that Peter would demand I leave his apartment.

I RP'd that as the Captain from The Venture Brothers. Saved their marriage with a lick-on tattoo and a box of L'eggs Eggs.

One of the proudest gaming experiences of my life.

[Mozenrath]

Feb 7, 2022 7:44:43 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

MTV has a sorely underrated animation legacy, say what you will about what they are currently.

Clone High is at least coming back in some form, a labor that they've been trying to undertake for ages. Shame 3 South and Undergrads can't be as fortunate.

(Supposedly, not animated, but they're trying to also revive Undressed. Seems a little pointless, but who knows, maybe that'll get traction, too.)

[Clash, Never a Meter Maid]

Feb 7, 2022 8:35:43 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Feb 7, 2022 7:44:43 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

MTV has a sorely underrated animation legacy, say what you will about what they are currently.

Clone High is at least coming back in some form, a labor that they've been trying to undertake for ages. Shame 3 South and Undergrads can't be as fortunate.

(Supposedly, not animated, but they're trying to also revive Undressed. Seems a little pointless, but who knows, maybe that'll get traction, too.)

I kinda missed out on Clone High, but I should probably give it a shot. Aeon Flux, Daria and Beavis & Butt-Head were my can’t-misses.

[thechase]

Feb 7, 2022 8:35:43 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Feb 7, 2022 7:44:43 GMT -5 Clash, Never a Meter Maid said:

MTV has a sorely underrated animation legacy, say what you will about what they are currently.

 Shame 3 South and Undergrads can't be as fortunate.

In Undergrad's case, they have been trying to get a movie made since they reacquired the rights from MTV, and used Kickstarter to secure funds for pre-production, but they threw out the original script because it didn't leave any room for the side characters.

[Saiyanic Panic]

My memory might be flawed but I recall this show being *deeply* melancholy. Like it prided itself on vying to be the most depressing Spider-Man related thing, a massive undertaking if nothing else. I also remember Michael Clarke Duncan being Kingpin, which was cool because we didn't get so many movie tie-ins like that at the time. I still missed Roscoe Lee Brown, not that I expected him because TNAS was a BIG on stunt-casting show.

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On top of that it had a downer ending and was royally screwed by the network, which as a massive Spectacular Spider-Man fan I can empathize with and relate.

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I never get why fans even want stuff like this.

Lets say they make this. Okay, then the makers wasted time and energy on something they'll never make a penny from.

And no matter how good it is, it still won't really be another season of that show. You need the animation crew and voice actors or else what's the point?

[thechase]

Feb 7, 2022 10:27:56 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

I never get why fans even want stuff like this.

Lets say they make this. Okay, then the makers wasted time and energy on something they'll never make a penny from.

And no matter how good it is, it still won't really be another season of that show. You need the animation crew and voice actors or else what's the point?

I imagine the notoriety that comes with the progress they make at least helps them gain experience and maybe opens the door to get noticed and being offered career opportunities somewhere down the line, which would probably net them substantially more money than this hobby.

I don't think it's a time-waster at all. They're giving fans of the show much needed closure on something that never got a real resolution. Why is getting Harris, Rob Zombie, Dorn etc, so important to making the show work for you? They're out of the price range of this team and their fans understand that.

I really wish people would get over the whole 'it ain't official, so it doesn't count' mentality, if a story is good, that's all that counts. Being concerned with 'canon' never stopped all those Star Trek webshows from being made, sometimes with professional writers and actors. As someone who is paying out of his own pocket a non-profit Spider-Man anthology comic, which will have a lot of canon-breaking storylines, I can relate and I do tire of this attitude. These characters aren't beholden to just what 'word of god' says about them.

I share some concerns about it, but I admire their hunger and they clearly have skill. I just worry they'll get too big and Marvel or Sony will step in.

[BlackoutCreature]

I always found this show really boring and I'm really surprised to discover that anybody would want to continue it. But I guess every show has its fans.

Speaking of which, has anybody heard anything about a fan continuation of Spider-Man Unlimited? Because I'd be so down for that.

[thechase]

Feb 7, 2022 11:56:31 GMT -5 BlackoutCreature said:

has anybody heard anything about a fan continuation of Spider-Man Unlimited? Because I'd be so down for that.

Yeah, even an audio reading would do just fine, some of the official unused season two scripts are out there on the 'net

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Feb 7, 2022 10:35:25 GMT -5 thechase said:

Feb 7, 2022 10:27:56 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

I never get why fans even want stuff like this.

Lets say they make this. Okay, then the makers wasted time and energy on something they'll never make a penny from.

And no matter how good it is, it still won't really be another season of that show. You need the animation crew and voice actors or else what's the point?

I don't think it's a time-waster at all. They're giving fans of the show much needed closure on something that never got a real resolution. Why is getting Harris, Rob Zombie, Dorn etc, so important to making the show work for you? They're out of the price range of this team and their fans understand that.

I really wish people would get over the whole 'it ain't official, so it doesn't count' mentality

For me, those voice actors are a huge selling point. They wouldn't have bothered to get celebrities in the first place if that wasn't part of the selling point of the show.

A lot of people have "gotten over" stuff not being official. You are one of them. I myself do in fact like some fan fiction when its well done. James Roberts Eugenisis novel (which cost him exactly zero dollars to make and he was able to sell physical copies of) and Andrew Modeen's TMNT stuff (which he made with the actual TMNT artists and writers to continue their stories) are great stuff. Chad Vader is pretty funny but I bet it costs nothing to make, and it doesn't at all make an effort to be an official continuation or anything.

If you want to watch a Spider Man cartoon that's a fan made sequel to a mostly forgotten old Spider-Man cartoon with none of the original people involved, then I hope you enjoy it. I still don't get it, but okay.

[thechase]

Feb 7, 2022 12:34:35 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

Feb 7, 2022 10:35:25 GMT -5 thechase said:

I don't think it's a time-waster at all. They're giving fans of the show much needed closure on something that never got a real resolution. Why is getting Harris, Rob Zombie, Dorn etc, so important to making the show work for you? They're out of the price range of this team and their fans understand that.

I really wish people would get over the whole 'it ain't official, so it doesn't count' mentality

For me, those voice actors are a huge selling point. They wouldn't have bothered to get celebrities in the first place if that wasn't part of the selling point of the show.

A lot of people have "gotten over" stuff not being official. You are one of them. I myself do in fact like some fan fiction when its well done. James Roberts Eugenisis novel (which cost him exactly zero dollars to make and he was able to sell physical copies of) and Andrew Modeen's TMNT stuff (which he made with the actual TMNT artists and writers to continue their stories) are great stuff. Chad Vader is pretty funny but I bet it costs nothing to make, and it doesn't at all make an effort to be an official continuation or anything.

If you want to watch a Spider Man cartoon that's a fan made sequel to a mostly forgotten old Spider-Man cartoon with none of the original people involved, then I hope you enjoy it. I still don't get it, but okay.

Thanks, I appreciate you clarifying a few things about your interests to make your point. I can see why authenticity can really drive home interest in a product, and it's not as if it's impossible as other fan productions have proven, I just don't see it in the cards for this (and especially since a lot of them are presently hollywood royalty)

Like I said in the OP, I'm not overly familiar with the MTV show, my Spider-Man cartoons of choice are Amazing Friends, Spider-Man: TAS (which almost made a comeback with everyone involved), and Spectacular Spider-Man (which also has a fan continuation currently in the works), I am interested in the cult following it has though, there's enough of a core audience to warrant two independent fan revivals of it...it might just be that the style of the show is easier/cheaper to animate than others.

I think I know Andrew Modeen, was he the one who did that continuation of the Image volume? If so, he and I chat a bit on the same forum. Skilled guy. Big Highlander fan.

[mrtuesday]

For me, the selling point was that it was advertised as taking place between Rami's Spider-Man 1 & 2. And when it was obvious that wasn't the case, I no longer cared.

[thechase]

Also, Brian Michael Bendis was a producer on this show. It had a lot working against it.

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Feb 7, 2022 12:50:18 GMT -5 thechase said:

Feb 7, 2022 12:34:35 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

For me, those voice actors are a huge selling point. They wouldn't have bothered to get celebrities in the first place if that wasn't part of the selling point of the show.

A lot of people have "gotten over" stuff not being official. You are one of them. I myself do in fact like some fan fiction when its well done. James Roberts Eugenisis novel (which cost him exactly zero dollars to make and he was able to sell physical copies of) and Andrew Modeen's TMNT stuff (which he made with the actual TMNT artists and writers to continue their stories) are great stuff. Chad Vader is pretty funny but I bet it costs nothing to make, and it doesn't at all make an effort to be an official continuation or anything.

If you want to watch a Spider Man cartoon that's a fan made sequel to a mostly forgotten old Spider-Man cartoon with none of the original people involved, then I hope you enjoy it. I still don't get it, but okay.

Thanks, I appreciate you clarifying a few things about your interests to make your point. I can see why authenticity can really drive home interest in a product, and it's not as if it's impossible as other fan productions have proven, I just don't see it in the cards for this (and especially since a lot of them are presently hollywood royalty)

Like I said in the OP, I'm not overly familiar with the MTV show, my Spider-Man cartoons of choice are Amazing Friends, Spider-Man: TAS (which almost made a comeback with everyone involved), and Spectacular Spider-Man (which also has a fan continuation currently in the works), I am interested in the cult following it has though, there's enough of a core audience to warrant two independent fan revivals of it...it might just be that the style of the show is easier/cheaper to animate than others.

I think I know Andrew Modeen, was he the one who did that continuation of the Image volume? If so, he and I chat a bit on the same forum. Skilled guy. Big Highlander fan.

Yeah, Andrew Modeen did a bunch of TMNT stuff. He did the Image conclusion (and then when IDW replaced it with an official conclusion they had him work on it), he helped translate a TMNT story that was made by Mirage but only published in Spanish even though it was in continuity, he did a comic called Odyssey that was sort of a Crisis/Turtles Forever that was intended to be the end of everything pre-Nickelodean, and another called Origin that I didn't read yet, both with Mirage artists involved, including even Kevin Eastman I believe. Currently he's helping the Archie TMNT writer and artist publish their final storyline that got cancelled even though it was partially done.

[thechase]

Feb 7, 2022 15:28:49 GMT -5 @therealoblivion said:

Feb 7, 2022 12:50:18 GMT -5 thechase said:

Thanks, I appreciate you clarifying a few things about your interests to make your point. I can see why authenticity can really drive home interest in a product, and it's not as if it's impossible as other fan productions have proven, I just don't see it in the cards for this (and especially since a lot of them are presently hollywood royalty)

Like I said in the OP, I'm not overly familiar with the MTV show, my Spider-Man cartoons of choice are Amazing Friends, Spider-Man: TAS (which almost made a comeback with everyone involved), and Spectacular Spider-Man (which also has a fan continuation currently in the works), I am interested in the cult following it has though, there's enough of a core audience to warrant two independent fan revivals of it...it might just be that the style of the show is easier/cheaper to animate than others.

I think I know Andrew Modeen, was he the one who did that continuation of the Image volume? If so, he and I chat a bit on the same forum. Skilled guy. Big Highlander fan.

Yeah, Andrew Modeen did a bunch of TMNT stuff. He did the Image conclusion (and then when IDW replaced it with an official conclusion they had him work on it), he helped translate a TMNT story that was made by Mirage but only published in Spanish even though it was in continuity, he did a comic called Odyssey that was sort of a Crisis/Turtles Forever that was intended to be the end of everything pre-Nickelodean, and another called Origin that I didn't read yet, both with Mirage artists involved, including even Kevin Eastman I believe. Currently he's helping the Archie TMNT writer and artist publish their final storyline that got cancelled even though it was partially done.

Definitely the same guy then. Thanks. He's a real character. 

[thechase]

Changed up the thread title because I've gone  down a big rabbit hole and found even more non-profit Spider-Man revival animations are being made

Here's one from SpectacleStars, aka 'Spectacular Spider-Man Continued'.





Official Twitter

twitter.com/tssm_continued

[thechase]

Feb 7, 2022 11:56:31 GMT -5 BlackoutCreature said:

I always found this show really boring and I'm really surprised to discover that anybody would want to continue it. But I guess every show has its fans.

Speaking of which, has anybody heard anything about a fan continuation of Spider-Man Unlimited? Because I'd be so down for that.

 I did some twitter digging for Spidey fan projects and found at least one revival effort for Unlimited and eventually joined their discord, the creators are pretty young, they mainly are aiming for just a fan comic at the moment, though they do intend to animate it.