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Post by bshadye413 on Feb 9, 2022 21:52:52 GMT -5
So I’m rewatching the attitude era, and I just got to the McMahon-Helmsley era….
Holy shit did they just completely bury Test! I remembered it was the end of any real push he ever got, but damn I forgot how badly he was buried. Guy beats triple h, then pretty much gets castrated by triple h and Stephanie and never gets close to any redemption.
Not saying he could have/should have been wwe champion or anything, but you could hear his career and push die the second triple h interrupted the wedding.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2022 22:07:02 GMT -5
It's my understanding that Test was a Russo guy and when Russo left they just sorta lost interest in giving him a big push. That's what I read anyway.
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Post by bshadye413 on Feb 9, 2022 22:24:24 GMT -5
It's my understanding that Test was a Russo guy and when Russo left they just sorta lost interest in giving him a big push. That's what I read anyway. Sounds believable. The one thing I recall reading was the original plan (idk if it was Russos plan or it was McMahons plan, since Russo left in September/October) was for test to turn heel at the wedding and leave her at the altar
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2022 22:30:42 GMT -5
It's my understanding that Test was a Russo guy and when Russo left they just sorta lost interest in giving him a big push. That's what I read anyway. Sounds believable. The one thing I recall reading was the original plan (idk if it was Russos plan or it was McMahons plan, since Russo left in September/October) was for test to turn heel at the wedding and leave her at the altar Yeah, I dunno how much truth there is to it, but I am having a hard time remembering anything Test did after SummerSlam in the months leading up to the wedding.
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Post by Nosnorb on Feb 10, 2022 6:05:24 GMT -5
Then after that, it was T&A and at Survivor Series 2021, he won a Battle Royale for immunity from getting fired for a year, but apart from a brief feud with The Rock, never really did anything with it. Then there was that godawful feud then team up with Scott Steiner, then he got shitcanned after breaking his neck.
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Post by Super Nintenjoe KBD on Feb 10, 2022 6:17:32 GMT -5
At the time as a 12/13 year old I was glad. I didn't mind him as a random bodyguard type in the Corporation, but once he turned face and seemed to be getting pushed I had no interest. Couldn't understand why we were meant to be getting excited for this big, bland guy when basically everyone else in the company had an interesting character to me. Looking back I didn't see it as getting buried since I wasn't aware of stuff like that yet, but whatever the reason I was glad he wasn't near the main event picture in 2000.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2022 6:39:39 GMT -5
As a newbie wrestling fan I always loved test. He was my first big boot guy and I lived his theme. I really thought him winning the immunity battle Royal would lead to something but it never did.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 10, 2022 6:54:27 GMT -5
Then after that, it was T&A and at Survivor Series 2021, he won a Battle Royale for immunity from getting fired for a year, but apart from a brief feud with The Rock, never really did anything with it. Then there was that godawful feud then team up with Scott Steiner, then he got shitcanned after breaking his neck. Given he died in 2009, that's quite a feat. (Kidding, typos happen.) I feel like Russo was giving Test a bit too much, too fast, but I think his biggest issue was his promo/acting ability. He was a fun guy in the midcard and I was a fan, but past that, he was a little out of his depth. Given he was only 33 when he died, he'd have been in the 23-24 range in 1999, so... yeah, maybe they were asking too much of him at that point.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Feb 10, 2022 7:27:17 GMT -5
It's easy to forget how over Test was in the summer of 99 and how over he was in 2001 before he turned heel and joined the alliance.
It's weird cause I feel the 2 times Test got a legit face run the crowds actually got behind him but dude got no reaction as a heel
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Feb 10, 2022 8:07:14 GMT -5
Then after that, it was T&A and at Survivor Series 2021, he won a Battle Royale for immunity from getting fired for a year, but apart from a brief feud with The Rock, never really did anything with it. Then there was that godawful feud then team up with Scott Steiner, then he got shitcanned after breaking his neck. Given he died in 2009, that's quite a feat. (Kidding, typos happen.) I feel like Russo was giving Test a bit too much, too fast, but I think his biggest issue was his promo/acting ability. He was a fun guy in the midcard and I was a fan, but past that, he was a little out of his depth. Given he was only 33 when he died, he'd have been in the 23-24 range in 1999, so... yeah, maybe they were asking too much of him at that point. Oh f***, I'm older than he was now. Oxycodone overdose, and CTE. I didn't realize how young he was, since when you're young everyone seems old.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 10, 2022 8:11:23 GMT -5
Given he died in 2009, that's quite a feat. (Kidding, typos happen.) I feel like Russo was giving Test a bit too much, too fast, but I think his biggest issue was his promo/acting ability. He was a fun guy in the midcard and I was a fan, but past that, he was a little out of his depth. Given he was only 33 when he died, he'd have been in the 23-24 range in 1999, so... yeah, maybe they were asking too much of him at that point. Oh f***, I'm older than he was now. Oxycodone overdose, and CTE. I didn't realize how young he was, since when you're young everyone seems old. Definitely, though he definitely looked pretty rough the last few years of his life due to steroid abuse, along with pill-popping, unfortunately.
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Post by msc on Feb 10, 2022 8:42:37 GMT -5
For someone that young and green in 1999 he was far better than he had any right to be. Charismatic as a face, popular, could mesh with the right opponent. Decent tag guy. One hell of a Big Boot.
They gave him too much too fast, then lost interest in him. Then gave him stop start pushes. Then after he refused to cut his hair (only to do so a month later) they gave up on any serious push for the guy.
Then he got way into drugs. When he showed up in 2006 he looked hideous, and was nearly immovable. It was like a completely different guy next to the Test from 1999-2002.
Then he showed up in TNA and genuinely looked like he could keel over at any second.
Then he died.
Such a tragic, stupid waste.
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Post by wendytorrancev1 on Feb 10, 2022 9:43:31 GMT -5
For someone that young and green in 1999 he was far better than he had any right to be. Charismatic as a face, popular, could mesh with the right opponent. Decent tag guy. One hell of a Big Boot. They gave him too much too fast, then lost interest in him. Then gave him stop start pushes. Then after he refused to cut his hair (only to do so a month later) they gave up on any serious push for the guy. This is where I am coming from with Test. He went from being super green in March-April 1999, to headlining major plot points by the summer (The Love Her or Leave Her Match). He was basically the muscle for the McMahon family, even main eventing a cage match against The British Bulldog and the Mean Street Posse on an episode of Smackdown, I believe, to get his revenge. Then it all came crashing down after Triple H married Stephanie. Instead of placing Test in the main event at Armageddon, they yanked him from that match and put Vinnie Mac in his place, which did neither any favors. Test was about to get his revenge on Triple H the next night, but he was thwarted and humiliated. He then pretty much let that whole "This man stole my girl and embarrassed me in front of everyone" feud go, which I guess means that Test didn't really hold (kayfabe) grudges? Test then disappeared for a bit before returning with Albert. Being accompanied by Trish Stratus, this new tag-team were called T&A, and despite them being actively involved in several of the tag-team matches and storylines of 2000 and feuding with both The Hardy Boyz and the Dudley Boyz, failed to gain any tangible momentum, such as a title run. It seemed more like they were just utilized to keep those tag-teams busy when they weren't going for titles. After T&A disbanded, Test returned to the singles division, gaining the European Championship in the process, before losing it to Eddie Guerrero at Wrestlemania X7. Test then turned heel again and joined the "Alliance" during the silly Invasion angle, and had a brief feud with The Rock (which was pretty decent, but very short), where it seemed as though they were going to push him again, but they never went anywhere with it. I'm not even sure if there was any resolution to that match, as the last match I remember them having was a handicap match with Test and Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley vs. The Rock and Booker T and Shane McMahon interfered on their behalf, costing The Rock the match. Again, they liked to have Test in these pushes and then allow him to vanish. It wasn't very fair, but then again, Test wasn't going to ever be a main eventer.
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Post by msc on Feb 10, 2022 12:46:50 GMT -5
For someone that young and green in 1999 he was far better than he had any right to be. Charismatic as a face, popular, could mesh with the right opponent. Decent tag guy. One hell of a Big Boot. They gave him too much too fast, then lost interest in him. Then gave him stop start pushes. Then after he refused to cut his hair (only to do so a month later) they gave up on any serious push for the guy. This is where I am coming from with Test. He went from being super green in March-April 1999, to headlining major plot points by the summer (The Love Her or Leave Her Match). He was basically the muscle for the McMahon family, even main eventing a cage match against The British Bulldog and the Mean Street Posse on an episode of Smackdown, I believe, to get his revenge. Then it all came crashing down after Triple H married Stephanie. Instead of placing Test in the main event at Armageddon, they yanked him from that match and put Vinnie Mac in his place, which did neither any favors. Test was about to get his revenge on Triple H the next night, but he was thwarted and humiliated. He then pretty much let that whole "This man stole my girl and embarrassed me in front of everyone" feud go, which I guess means that Test didn't really hold (kayfabe) grudges? Test then disappeared for a bit before returning with Albert. Being accompanied by Trish Stratus, this new tag-team were called T&A, and despite them being actively involved in several of the tag-team matches and storylines of 2000 and feuding with both The Hardy Boyz and the Dudley Boyz, failed to gain any tangible momentum, such as a title run. It seemed more like they were just utilized to keep those tag-teams busy when they weren't going for titles. After T&A disbanded, Test returned to the singles division, gaining the European Championship in the process, before losing it to Eddie Guerrero at Wrestlemania X7. Test then turned heel again and joined the "Alliance" during the silly Invasion angle, and had a brief feud with The Rock (which was pretty decent, but very short), where it seemed as though they were going to push him again, but they never went anywhere with it. I'm not even sure if there was any resolution to that match, as the last match I remember them having was a handicap match with Test and Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley vs. The Rock and Booker T and Shane McMahon interfered on their behalf, costing The Rock the match. Again, they liked to have Test in these pushes and then allow him to vanish. It wasn't very fair, but then again, Test wasn't going to ever be a main eventer. A main eventer, probably not, but he could have been useful if they weren't so reckless with their young guys. Edge was also green at the same time but him and Christian got to team together and then had all the chemistry in the world with the Hardys (even before their ladder matches) so he was protected while he grew as a wrestler. Also the odd thing about the whole Test/Steph wedding no grudges? When they brought TNA into the McMahon Helmsley Regime, Test made it clear he DID have a grudge with HHH and Steph, and he was only acting on the same team because he was friends with Shane! So it was continuity, when it suited them...
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Post by Squirrel Master on Feb 10, 2022 12:46:55 GMT -5
You know that they could’ve given that dude a better ring name
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Post by government mule on Feb 10, 2022 18:11:58 GMT -5
Still trying to decipher the lyrics to his theme tune all these years later. I read somewhere in the depths of the internet many years ago that the first line after 'Test, test this is a test' was 'JERICHO PUT YOUR HAND ON MY CODPIECE' and now I can never un-hear it.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Feb 10, 2022 19:05:46 GMT -5
I’ve always thought his ECW run was kinda sad. They still gave him a push right out of the gate, but he seemed so gassed and irritable all the time.
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Post by Instant Classic on Feb 10, 2022 20:42:21 GMT -5
I liked him with Stacy and his feud with Steiner back in 2003.
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Post by Nosnorb on Feb 10, 2022 23:36:07 GMT -5
I’ve always thought his ECW run was kinda sad. They still gave him a push right out of the gate, but he seemed so gassed and irritable all the time. It was sad. The dude was totally roided out and looked like a totally different person from his first WWE run, and in-ring, he had seriously regressed. Hell, when it came to the Extreme Elimination Chamber match, the weapon he was given was a crowbar as a joke.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 12, 2022 6:20:26 GMT -5
Still trying to decipher the lyrics to his theme tune all these years later. I read somewhere in the depths of the internet many years ago that the first line after 'Test, test this is a test' was 'JERICHO PUT YOUR HAND ON MY CODPIECE' and now I can never un-hear it. Test, this isn't a Test Test, Test, This isn't a Test
Whumpbiddybum biddyfiddybopeep Whumbiddybump dillywiddywummagofee Whumpbiddlemump MunnapumpboBADABOW
Giddyup yum giddygiddyup
Lunchmeat don't call on the telephone
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