krozor
Don Corleone
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Post by krozor on Mar 19, 2022 14:53:51 GMT -5
Khan is an effect, not a cause. I'd argue that their inability - and that's a bigger discussion topic by itself - to grow/keep the subscriber base for the Network caused them, as a publicly-traded company with investors, to change plans. That led to bringing in someone like Khan and make the deal to move the Network to Peacock, which meant no financial incentive for more tape libraries or buying up promotions/stockpiling talent and focus everything on just staying focused on their TV deals, which basically just means "live content, lots of it" regardless of quality or depth.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 19, 2022 15:11:53 GMT -5
Khan likely ran it by Vince that in order to increase profit and lower budget they gotta get rid of people and so he was likely told names he could not fire but everyone else was game and then he ran the numbers etc and here we are. But this shit is exactly why IMO atleast Khan cannot even though alot of people predict that he will but he cannot be the one that runs the ship post Vince because he is a numbers guy he doesn't know the value of talent apart from numbers on a sheet because if he did then the likes of Keith Lee and Swerve would still be here. Khan wont run things after Vince dies unless the company is sold after his death. If Vince is doing the expected thing and willing his shares to his family then they will running things. Now depending on their attitude Khan may be kept on doing the same thing as now but they will be the final say as Vince is now. Hatchet men don't usually stick to companies too long. They usually either stay just long enough to see the profits go up... or they stay too long and they get fired when profits go down because they cut too thin and you no longer have t he man power to do the job. Especially since in wrestling you can't just simply Replace wrestler A with Wrestler B... unlike most other businesses.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Mar 19, 2022 15:26:14 GMT -5
Nick Khan coming in probably helped speed it up but I think NXT losing to AEW also helped it happen more quickly as well. For one, AEW getting the extension made it clear that there wasn't much to get from signing everyone under the sun since they were now financially secure for the next 3-4 years. Yeah, you could try to slow their growth by limiting talent and trying to negotiate and raise their costs but it wouldn't do much. Additionally, a lot of the bloat was located in NXT. As I've mentioned elsewhere, Kushida of all people took forever to get going there simply because there wasn't really even room for him. They had so much talent there and when NXT became less important in Vince's eyes after they failed to stop AEW, a lot of talent there got cut since NXT was not seen as being worth the investment.
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Post by nickcave on Mar 19, 2022 15:36:19 GMT -5
On a side note it is incredibly spiteful to me that they will cut all these guys who clearly want to be there and then force someone like Ali who wants to leave to sit out his contract instead of just releasing him as part of the cost cutting
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Post by eJm on Mar 19, 2022 15:37:27 GMT -5
On a side note it is incredibly spiteful to me that they will cut all these guys who clearly want to be there and then force someone like Ali who wants to leave to sit out his contract instead of just releasing him as part of the cost cutting Old habits die hard.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Mar 19, 2022 16:21:25 GMT -5
I would say at the beginning of the pandemic post Wrestlemania 36 when they started doing multiple releases at a time again and it's been a frequent thing ever since. Really the "We Want All the Toys" era only lasted like two years. Like 2018 and 2019. And honestly that wasn't a good way about going things either as the roster was way too bloated and there was just tons of people doing nothing and serving no purpose. However now they've gone to much the other way where now they are spreading themselves too thin especially with the women where they don't have the depth that they do with the men where they can afford to cut five people at a time every four to six months. As mentioned the result is them having to fill like 80% of the roster with women coming in for one offs.
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Post by oxbaker on Mar 19, 2022 17:10:53 GMT -5
Nick gave the toys he was no longer playing with to his brother Tony.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2022 10:06:08 GMT -5
They actually have a pretty big roster still. It seems thin, but no one is making them have four rosters instead of one. From all accounts USA and Fox kinda are? It seems like they are fighting over talent, yes. Even then, that's just Raw and Smackdown. No one is making them still have NXT and NXT UK still be brands. And as I've heard people in the industry say, Fox and USA would probably be happy with one roster as long as WWE was good about rotating who is featured on Raw and Smackdown from week to week so that one doesn't seem to have more big stars than the other.
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nisidhe
Hank Scorpio
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Post by nisidhe on Mar 20, 2022 17:10:21 GMT -5
Vince has always followed the creed that it was better to make a million his way than a billion someone else's. If he wants someone on top, he will have them on top even though there may be a dozen also on the roster, each of them capable of making him even more. We saw it in the early to mid-1990s when he wanted anybody but Bret on top of his roster for some reason, in spite of the fact that Bret was the de facto Face of the Company throughout that time.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 20, 2022 19:44:49 GMT -5
When they realised they couldn't do to the indies what they did to the AWA, which was kindly uncle Hunter's plan for NXT. They attempted to destroy ROH with NXT as a touring super indie, and failed. They attempted to limit the talent pool available to AEW and failed there too. The planned international expansion failed due to covid so they were left with a bloated roster filled with guys Vince didn't want so they weren't going to sign more.
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