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Post by jhbboy198917 on Apr 7, 2022 8:59:54 GMT -5
It's looking like SD is getting most of the after WM call ups which to tbf they need more then Raw. Also according to PWI Lacey Evans is suppose to be at SD tomorrow
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Post by mistery on Apr 7, 2022 9:05:14 GMT -5
It's looking like SD is getting most of the after WM call ups which to tbf they need more then Raw. Also according to PWI Lacey Evans is suppose to be at SD tomorrow Lacey is someone I don't think anyone truly cares about seeing return tbh. She wasn't getting over with audiences, and her angle with Ric Flair was really bad. Doesn't help that she was just defending him recently on social media as well. She was also a below average wrestler at best in the ring.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 9:12:31 GMT -5
Just bide your time Io because to repeat what I said every single other company is chomping at the bit for when the time comes that you are free.
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Post by mistery on Apr 7, 2022 15:20:43 GMT -5
So for those who haven't been keeping track, here are the list of talents expected to be called up or returning:
- Gunther - Marcel Barthel - LA Knight - Raquel Gonzalez - Lacey Evans
It bears repeating that if I were Io Shirai, I would be pissed if I was booked to take the pin, and not getting a callup because of it. Because she should be treated as the final boss of NXT, not a minor roadbump for Mandy Rose. It doesn't help that they are gonna just make the main roster women's division worse with Raquel being called up and Lacey returning.
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Post by polarbearpete on Apr 7, 2022 16:09:12 GMT -5
So for those who haven't been keeping track, here are the list of talents expected to be called up or returning: - Gunther - Marcel Barthel - LA Knight - Raquel Gonzalez - Lacey Evans It bears repeating that if I were Io Shirai, I would be pissed if I was booked to take the pin, and not getting a callup because of it. Because she should be treated as the final boss of NXT, not a minor roadbump for Mandy Rose. It doesn't help that they are gonna just make the main roster women's division worse with Raquel being called up and Lacey returning. Women’s roster can use the depth though, and Raquel and Lacey are adequate wrestlers and characters to flesh out the card. Will help when Asuka and Bayley are back too. Obviously Io should be up too, but doesn’t look to be in the cards yet.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 16:12:34 GMT -5
Lacey's had some of the worst booking I've seen for a woman in the last several years. I hope she keeps her theme song, though!
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Post by mistery on Apr 7, 2022 16:25:37 GMT -5
So for those who haven't been keeping track, here are the list of talents expected to be called up or returning: - Gunther - Marcel Barthel - LA Knight - Raquel Gonzalez - Lacey Evans It bears repeating that if I were Io Shirai, I would be pissed if I was booked to take the pin, and not getting a callup because of it. Because she should be treated as the final boss of NXT, not a minor roadbump for Mandy Rose. It doesn't help that they are gonna just make the main roster women's division worse with Raquel being called up and Lacey returning. Women’s roster can use the depth though, and Raquel and Lacey are adequate wrestlers and characters to flesh out the card. Will help when Asuka and Bayley are back too. Obviously Io should be up too, but doesn’t look to be in the cards yet. I'm sorry, but Raquel is not an adequate character. The mound of dirt sitting in my yard right now has more personality and charisma than her. Hell, there's an entire thread on FAN basically making fun of her because she thinks "look at my back muscles" is good character work. And Io has been in NXT developmental for four years now. It'll be 5 years soon. At this point, why is she still there? Or in the company for that matter? She's the most main roster ready woman they've had in ages. But she is getting passed over for women like Raquel. A lot of Io's fans (myself included) are at their breaking point with this company. Because its painfully obvious she isn't going to be a featured act in NXT going forward, and she's accomplished everything she can do on the brand. Either call her up and push her into the main event scene, which a lot of the women there have said they want to see, or release her so she can work in other places that would actually appreciate her talent. WWE is squandering her prime years instead of actually pushing her as the star she 100% should be. If they don't want to treat her seriously, then cut her so she can go work elsewhere instead of being stuck in NXT for 5 years doing nothing. Because right now, she's one of the most misused/underutilized women in the entire company. But unlike other women who fans have seen underutilized, she won't get that mainstream audience support because WWE has been very careful to keep her off of main roster programming as much as possible, because they likely don't want her getting over.
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Post by knsffa on Apr 7, 2022 17:05:42 GMT -5
Women’s roster can use the depth though, and Raquel and Lacey are adequate wrestlers and characters to flesh out the card. Will help when Asuka and Bayley are back too. Obviously Io should be up too, but doesn’t look to be in the cards yet. I'm sorry, but Raquel is not an adequate character. The mound of dirt sitting in my yard right now has more personality and charisma than her. Hell, there's an entire thread on FAN basically making fun of her because she thinks "look at my back muscles" is good character work. And Io has been in NXT developmental for four years now. It'll be 5 years soon. At this point, why is she still there? Or in the company for that matter? She's the most main roster ready woman they've had in ages. But she is getting passed over for women like Raquel. A lot of Io's fans (myself included) are at their breaking point with this company. Because its painfully obvious she isn't going to be a featured act in NXT going forward, and she's accomplished everything she can do on the brand. Either call her up and push her into the main event scene, which a lot of the women there have said they want to see, or release her so she can work in other places that would actually appreciate her talent. WWE is squandering her prime years instead of actually pushing her as the star she 100% should be. If they don't want to treat her seriously, then cut her so she can go work elsewhere instead of being stuck in NXT for 5 years doing nothing. Because right now, she's one of the most misused/underutilized women in the entire company. But unlike other women who fans have seen underutilized, she won't get that mainstream audience support because WWE has been very careful to keep her off of main roster programming as much as possible, because they likely don't want her getting over. I've never been a fan of Raquel. When they did the bit where Io hands her the contract I groaned because it was going to be Kross and Raquel dominating for months it felt. Toni, Dakota, Mercedes etc would be passed by for singles matches against Io just so Raquel could hold the title until she went up. That last bit didn't happen as Raquel lost the title. But just to think Toni vs Io could have headlined Stand & Deliver Night 1. Fans didn't want Raquel as the face when they split Kai and her, and for good reason. By the time the match rolled around they were unofficially both tweeners for it, however still trying to push Raquel as the top face was silly. She did nothing to endure people to her. Raquel being problematic does not endure her to me or others either, even if we're watching a character per say. Much as I'm glad Kai is face again finally, I so wish they'd of brought Nixon back (though she may not have wanted to) because I just want to groan at Raquel. Thankfully that partnership on-screen looks to be done. I feel for you on Io because it sucks they don't use her better. She is one of the few reasons I make some effort to enjoy 2.0. Dunne is one of my favorites too but they butchered him quite literally. It's like watching the Leprechaun from WCW. Now one of my other favorites is likely just a filler for Mandy next week. Last of the 'old guard' Mandy didn't beat and they can't even hype it up for an episode before killing it off. Another poster here pointed out some things Tuesday that make me a bit optimistic, so maybe this is just the start of a feud. Honestly though, Mandy is their top star, it's about Cora or if she's old news already, Lyons as the one to dethrone. I'd love to be proven wrong, however at the very least it sucks when your favorite who deserves better can't even get more than a filler match if that is what it turns out to be. And her 'tag partner' is rewarded for being problematic while she hits a ceiling because she raises money for charity. If Io is in NXT for a bit as it seems at least she might be built up for a 'premium' event match vs Mandy this summer. That would be better than a filler match on weekly television. Io, Pete Dunne, Dakota, even Marcel and The Ring General. They are all WRESTLERS who play characters. They aren't what WWE wants I think. If they are lucky enough to stay in NXT, they may least get some moments there. It sucks cause they deserve more, however do people really think Io or Dakota or Dunne will get treated well up there? Dunne is already a laughing stock. How long until Gunther is a old timey circus freak and Barthel has a top hat on?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 17:15:40 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but Raquel is not an adequate character. The mound of dirt sitting in my yard right now has more personality and charisma than her. Hell, there's an entire thread on FAN basically making fun of her because she thinks "look at my back muscles" is good character work. And Io has been in NXT developmental for four years now. It'll be 5 years soon. At this point, why is she still there? Or in the company for that matter? She's the most main roster ready woman they've had in ages. But she is getting passed over for women like Raquel. A lot of Io's fans (myself included) are at their breaking point with this company. Because its painfully obvious she isn't going to be a featured act in NXT going forward, and she's accomplished everything she can do on the brand. Either call her up and push her into the main event scene, which a lot of the women there have said they want to see, or release her so she can work in other places that would actually appreciate her talent. WWE is squandering her prime years instead of actually pushing her as the star she 100% should be. If they don't want to treat her seriously, then cut her so she can go work elsewhere instead of being stuck in NXT for 5 years doing nothing. Because right now, she's one of the most misused/underutilized women in the entire company. But unlike other women who fans have seen underutilized, she won't get that mainstream audience support because WWE has been very careful to keep her off of main roster programming as much as possible, because they likely don't want her getting over. I've never been a fan of Raquel. When they did the bit where Io hands her the contract I groaned because it was going to be Kross and Raquel dominating for months it felt. Toni, Dakota, Mercedes etc would be passed by for singles matches against Io just so Raquel could hold the title until she went up. That last bit didn't happen as Raquel lost the title. But just to think Toni vs Io could have headlined Stand & Deliver Night 1. Fans didn't want Raquel as the face when they split Kai and her, and for good reason. By the time the match rolled around they were unofficially both tweeners for it, however still trying to push Raquel as the top face was silly. She did nothing to endure people to her. Raquel being problematic does not endure her to me or others either, even if we're watching a character per say. Much as I'm glad Kai is face again finally, I so wish they'd of brought Nixon back (though she may not have wanted to) because I just want to groan at Raquel. Thankfully that partnership on-screen looks to be done. I feel for you on Io because it sucks they don't use her better. She is one of the few reasons I make some effort to enjoy 2.0. Dunne is one of my favorites too but they butchered him quite literally. It's like watching the Leprechaun from WCW. Now one of my other favorites is likely just a filler for Mandy next week. Last of the 'old guard' Mandy didn't beat and they can't even hype it up for an episode before killing it off. Another poster here pointed out some things Tuesday that make me a bit optimistic, so maybe this is just the start of a feud. Honestly though, Mandy is their top star, it's about Cora or if she's old news already, Lyons as the one to dethrone. I'd love to be proven wrong, however at the very least it sucks when your favorite who deserves better can't even get more than a filler match if that is what it turns out to be. And her 'tag partner' is rewarded for being problematic while she hits a ceiling because she raises money for charity. Io, Pete Dunne, Dakota, even Marcel and The Ring General. They are all WRESTLERS who play characters. They aren't what WWE wants I think. If they are lucky enough to stay in NXT, they may least get some moments there. It sucks cause they deserve more, however do people really think Io or Dakota or Dunne will get treated well up there? Dunne is already a laughing stock. How long until Gunther is a old timey circus freak and Barthel has a top hat on? I do not believe Io is gonna get fair treatment on the main roster but f*** I atleast want her to get a try and not be a forever f***ing gate keeper in NXT and she isn't even that anymore. Again I reiterate THE BEST WOMENS WRESTLER IN THE WORLD and IMO OF HER GENERATION HAS BEEN STUCK IN WWE's DEVELOPMENTAL FOR WHATS GOING TO BE 5YRS!....look idk about anyone else but that feels really f***ing insane to me.
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 7, 2022 17:23:47 GMT -5
Lacey's had some of the worst booking I've seen for a woman in the last several years. I hope she keeps her theme song, though! They managed to botch a babyface turn, then a re-heel turn with her both. And her feud with Charlotte was legendarily bad.
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Post by knsffa on Apr 8, 2022 18:28:18 GMT -5
Fightful reports names changes. Marcel to become Ludwig. Raquel Gonzalez to likely get name change too.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Apr 8, 2022 18:47:14 GMT -5
Fightful reports names changes. Marcel to become Ludwig. Raquel Gonzalez to likely get name change too. These people have been in DEVELOPMENTAL! For development. Meaning they should already have the names and characters you want them to have. And be comfortable with the characters and promos they will have to give in those personas. It was one thing when Triple H was running NXT as his own indy brand. But since Vince and Co took over I thought there was supposed to be synergy between NXT and the main roster creative.
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Post by mistery on Apr 8, 2022 18:50:51 GMT -5
Fightful reports names changes. Marcel to become Ludwig. Raquel Gonzalez to likely get name change too. These people have been in DEVELOPMENTAL! For development. Meaning they should already have the names and characters you want them to have. And be comfortable with the characters and promos they will have to give in those personas. It was one thing when Triple H was running NXT as his own indy brand. But since Vince and Co took over I thought there was supposed to be synergy between NXT and the main roster creative. HBK has taken over NXT, with apparently very minimal input from Vince and Bruce outside of general direction. But yeah, it seems like everyone is getting their name changed now when they are called up which is...baffling. Can't wait for Io Shirai to become Hakari Minamoto or something. Especially since these names are getting kinda...racist?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 8, 2022 18:52:30 GMT -5
Fightful reports names changes. Marcel to become Ludwig. Raquel Gonzalez to likely get name change too. Just posting it from the Smackdown thread as well because it's appropriate here too: What the f*** is even the point of having NXT as a televised program anymore for people to see on USA, when all you do with the people you call up to the main rosters is change their entire look, style, and name when the time actually comes for them to be called up? Like it makes the entire "DEVELOPMENTAL" thing seem very f***ing pointless.
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Post by knsffa on Apr 8, 2022 19:04:13 GMT -5
These people have been in DEVELOPMENTAL! For development. Meaning they should already have the names and characters you want them to have. And be comfortable with the characters and promos they will have to give in those personas. It was one thing when Triple H was running NXT as his own indy brand. But since Vince and Co took over I thought there was supposed to be synergy between NXT and the main roster creative. HBK has taken over NXT, with apparently very minimal input from Vince and Bruce outside of general direction. But yeah, it seems like everyone is getting their name changed now when they are called up which is...baffling. Can't wait for Io Shirai to become Hakari Minamoto or something. Especially since these names are getting kinda...racist? I'm fine with Io and Dakota staying in NXT along with Sarray and KLR for the remainder of their contracts. Maybe they get fed up and quit (assuming they are granted release) and go elsewhere where they don't get crapped on. It's developmental or name change and stupid gimmick doomed to fail it seems. It's a shame but developmental seems a better choice.
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Post by asuka007 on Apr 8, 2022 19:06:10 GMT -5
I thought that NXT 2.0 was supposed to make it easier to transition to the MR?
So why are we getting all the name changes?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Apr 8, 2022 19:28:01 GMT -5
LUDWIG.
Please start a Koopa Kids stable. Just change Raquel to Wendy O
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Post by mistery on Apr 8, 2022 19:49:40 GMT -5
Raquel Rodriguez.
Thats all I am posting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2022 19:53:16 GMT -5
They really changed Gonzalez to Rodriquez. Wow.
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Apr 8, 2022 20:10:08 GMT -5
Apparently they were introduced with a graphic that said “Gunther Invades Smackdown”, which is very tasteful.
I look forward to their entrance music being changed to Deutschland Über Alles too, and for their team name to be The German Baddies, just in case it wasn’t clear before.
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