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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Apr 9, 2022 9:13:52 GMT -5
In short Goldberg debuts in the WWF in 1995 as a face with a strong push and Ahmed debuts in WCW in 1997 with the undefeated streak.
How much you want the two guys careers to mirror what actually happened with the other from there is up to you.
I was inspired when noticing some similarities between the two with Jeff Jarrett’s recent podcast about leaving the WWF in 1996.
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Post by tafkaga on Apr 9, 2022 9:53:34 GMT -5
There are some interesting parallels. I don't see it ending a lot different though. From what I've heard, Goldberg was pretty well liked on a personal level, better at politicking, and more apt to learn from his mistakes. I'm not sure Ahmed had any of those attributes, and I don't see Hogan or the Outsiders wanting anything to do with him. So, Goldberg becomes a WWF champ and Ahmed bounces in the upper midcard before disappearing.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 9, 2022 11:58:35 GMT -5
Ahmed's winning streak would have reached 4, then he would have tore all his muscles.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2022 12:14:04 GMT -5
Goldberg and LOD vs the Nation of Domination?
Also, Ahmed was the first black wrestler to hold singles gold in WWF, so that changes historical stats.
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Post by Nosnorb on Apr 9, 2022 12:17:09 GMT -5
We might have gotten that Super Calo vs Ahmed Johnson match that we were so cruelly denied. |
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Apr 9, 2022 15:06:25 GMT -5
Ahmed in 1997 WCW would've went the way of Wrath. Undefeated for a few months, lost then slid down the card and eventually been repackaged or released due to all the injuries.
Goldberg in 1995 WWF wouldn't have had the meteoric rise, 175 match win streak or winning the world title within 9 months but long-term would've ended up in the main event within 2-3 years. He wouldn't have had that iconic entrance though.
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Post by crowley1986 on Apr 9, 2022 16:00:56 GMT -5
Goldberg might have got trained a bit better
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Apr 9, 2022 16:06:12 GMT -5
WWE realized Ahmed was dangerous, so they presumably would have done the same for Goldberg.
Ultimately they might have put him out there anyways because he looked like Goldberg, and that was around when Ultimate Warrior was back too.
But maybe they ultimately would’ve played the long game and we would’ve gotten a Brock Lesnar 10 years earlier.
When The Rock and Steve Austin were running things.
Damn. Interesting question.
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Post by Marvelous1LUFC on Apr 9, 2022 16:07:12 GMT -5
Maybe Big T would have won his T a bit earlier than 2000
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Post by 67 more on Apr 9, 2022 16:25:10 GMT -5
If Ahmed Johnson doing a plancha was scary in 1996, it would have nothing on Goldberg trying it.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 9, 2022 16:31:56 GMT -5
Goldberg would have more likely learned discipline, but I do think he'd be in danger of getting undermined unless someone treated him as a pet project.
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Post by Marvelous1LUFC on Apr 9, 2022 16:33:05 GMT -5
If Ahmed Johnson doing a plancha was scary in 1996, it would have nothing on Goldberg trying it. Have you not seen goldbergs WCW debut, and his back handspring (which he never did again) 😂 |
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Post by Chris Legentil -- Mind Freak on Apr 9, 2022 16:37:48 GMT -5
Goldberg joins The Nation
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Post by 67 more on Apr 9, 2022 16:47:06 GMT -5
If Ahmed Johnson doing a plancha was scary in 1996, it would have nothing on Goldberg trying it. Have you not seen goldbergs WCW debut, and his back handspring (which he never did again) 😂 The handspring's fine, falling ten feet to the floor not so much. Especially from someone like Goldberg who insists on ramming his head into everything as hard as he can. |
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Apr 9, 2022 17:22:57 GMT -5
Goldberg joins The Nation I was going to reference that in the OP. The Faarooq feud went on forever but didn’t actually start until pretty deep into 1996. So if anyone cares to deep dive fantasy book either of these I figured the timelines might have diverged enough by that point where Goldberg/Nation doesn’t happen. Although I could imagine some very uncomfortable promos where Faarooq says Goldberg claims he’s a minority because he’s Jewish, but he’s really just another evil white man. |
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Post by Aceorton on Apr 9, 2022 18:18:38 GMT -5
Goldberg joins The Nation Take my money. I want Goldberg in the kufi cap, the stripes and everything. Give him his own verse in the PG-13 rap. No, but seriously, I don't think the WWF would have had the foresight to make Goldberg anywhere near the beast he was in WCW. He would have been more like a Steve Blackman: a bland "badass" guy who floats around in the midcard for a few years doing meaningless shit and maybe gets a brief comedy angle or a Hardcore title push. The Streak was a pure accident on WCW's part, unlikely to be replicated anywhere else. As for Ahmed, I'm thinking his best-case scenario in WCW is a Scott Norton-type role on the nWo B Team -- the hoss who's big and mean-looking but nobody cares about. |
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Post by Feyrhausen on Apr 9, 2022 18:21:29 GMT -5
Would Goldberg have been able to cut Vince style promos? If not then they may have done something with him when they were desperate. But once Austin and Rock hit the scene they would have pushed Goldberg down to the midcard.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Apr 9, 2022 18:30:58 GMT -5
Goldberg joins The Nation Take my money. I want Goldberg in the kufi cap, the stripes and everything. Give him his own verse in the PG-13 rap. No, but seriously, I don't think the WWF would have had the foresight to make Goldberg anywhere near the beast he was in WCW. He would have been more like a Steve Blackman: a bland "badass" guy who floats around in the midcard for a few years doing meaningless shit and maybe gets a brief comedy angle or a Hardcore title push. The Streak was a pure accident on WCW's part, unlikely to be replicated anywhere else. As for Ahmed, I'm thinking his best-case scenario in WCW is a Scott Norton-type role on the nWo B Team -- the hoss who's big and mean-looking but nobody cares about. I don’t know if the Goldberg streak really was a pure accident. I mean on the surface it should be the easiest gimmick in the world to pull off. Mysterious badass keeps winning. But it’s been 20+ years now since it happened and nothing has achieved its success. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 10, 2022 2:46:26 GMT -5
I don't see either lasting long. Goldberg git into wrestling for the money and money was crap for WWF guys with his level of experience before the attitude era. He'd have one year of basic memphis training for a pittance, then worldwide death tours with a drugged up Shawn and people medicating with drink and bullying, decide he didn't need that and leave.
Ahmed would get booked as a future heel foe for Hogan, he'd rip through the roster, get hurt because he's both old and green, then retire after the company moved on while he's out hurt.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Apr 10, 2022 2:57:46 GMT -5
Would the world have been ready for a Big T vs. Scott Steiner promo feud?
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