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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 26, 2022 7:25:38 GMT -5
I don't see it on AEW pages at least, but I know there was a point in time where somebody over there became comedically anal retentive about shoehorning what was essentially a very formal-sounding "wrestling is fake" disclaimer at the start of any page (particularly PPVs) that had any mention about specific angles at all. Something along the lines of "portraying simulated combat in response to fictional storylines depicted onscreen" or something equally pretentious-yet-disdainful sounding. Those are more or less still on every article:
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Post by jimmyjackezekiel on Apr 26, 2022 7:39:58 GMT -5
I'm still salty they removed the finishers. :/ Why did they do that? Because you touch yourself at night.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Apr 26, 2022 7:56:39 GMT -5
I remember when Randy Orton got suspended in 2006, his page started getting edited with reasons why such as for trying to flush Paul London down the toilet. I think that was the start of wrestler pages being locked.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 26, 2022 8:03:18 GMT -5
I remember when Randy Orton got suspended in 2006, his page started getting edited with reasons why such as for trying to flush Paul London down the toilet. I think that was the start of wrestler pages being locked. The most recent edit wars I can remember were Carlito and Cody, with back-and-forths over them being signed or not with WWE getting particularly heated.
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Post by Hulkshi Tanahashi on Apr 26, 2022 12:04:25 GMT -5
Because there's not really anywhere that lists wrestlers' movesets and finishers that qualifies as a valid source for citation. Same goes for themes. So they won’t put Real American down as Hulk Hogan’s theme because there’s no way to cite it even though everyone and their momma knows that’s his theme song? Stupid.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 26, 2022 12:21:50 GMT -5
Because there's not really anywhere that lists wrestlers' movesets and finishers that qualifies as a valid source for citation. Same goes for themes. So they won’t put Real American down as Hulk Hogan’s theme because there’s no way to cite it even though everyone and their momma knows that’s his theme song? Stupid. It's frustrating, but as an online encyclopaedia everything needs to have a source, even for things that everybody knows. If there wasn't that requirement, then anybody could just add anything and there'd be no cause to remove it, regardless of veracity.
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Post by Burst on Apr 26, 2022 15:25:19 GMT -5
^ It's basically the whole primary/secondary/tertiary source problem, since an encyclopedia by definition is supposed to be a compilation of established information versus the origination of said information. It's more or less the same reason why teachers and professors get all over students for directly citing Wikipedia. It's definitely justifiable for silly and/or malicious edit reasons as already mentioned, but definitely there's a blind spot for what constitutes a valid source for things like Hogan using "Real American" as his theme.
Though that does make me wonder if you could at least tangentially cite him as having used "Ravishing" via the cover or liner notes of the Wrestling Album, though I think that was literally just called "Hulk Hogan's Theme".
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Apr 26, 2022 15:44:54 GMT -5
As someone who DID work with the Wikipedia wrestling group, and for a time with Wikipedia in general... The thing with Wikipedia's move sections is that there was no agreement on what constituted a finisher vs a signature move, and the signature moves sections often had every single move said wrestler ever used. This led to "edit wars", where editors would add and remove things from the lists over top of each other. For example, on Gran Metallik's signature move section, there was a todo over whether to add 'vertical suplex' to it. The source was a recap of a single match that said he used it in that match. Some people said that was enough, some people said moves as basic as the vertical suplex can never be signature, some said that although it could be a signature move the source didn't actually say that it was only that he used it once in one match... This caused a lot of frustration from the Wikipedia admins, many of whom had very high opinions of both themselves and wikipedia, and felt that having such things on wikipedia was demeaning, not to mention they got tired of cleaning up after edit wars. Also, several of the prominent wikipedia editors who did like wrestling were joyless antismarks who despised the IWC. Wikipedians often have tremendous egos. Anyway, if you want to read the behind-the-scenes wikipedia policy debate that lead to the sections getting pulled, it's en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_145#Should_the_%22In_wrestling%22_section_be_removed_from_professional_wrestling_articles?And the worst part is, there's a pro wrestling wiki, but it's run by a few of the biggest clownshoes on the internet.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 26, 2022 16:09:33 GMT -5
Also, several of the prominent wikipedia editors who did like wrestling were joyless antismarks who despised the IWC. Wikipedians often have tremendous egos. I can most certainly attest to this. There's one guy in particular who has a handful of pages he rules like they're his own little fiefdom, and it's quite insufferable.
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