Mochi Lone Wolf
Fry's dog Seymour
Development through Destruction.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jun 10, 2022 7:16:20 GMT -5
Oh, and while he is the perfect babyface, he can be an amazing heel, as well.
If you get a chance, look up his matches at the 2008 Champion’s Carnival in All Japan. His performance as the big league heel is legendary. Capped off by him getting powerbombed straight to hell in the finals by All Japan ace SUWAMA in one of the most satisfying finishes I’ve ever seen.
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Allie Kitsune
Crow T. Robot
Always Feelin' Foxy.
HaHa U FaLL 4 LaVa TriK
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 10, 2022 9:11:05 GMT -5
Covid killed my interest in wrestling for a bit, couldn't deal with empty arenas, but with NJPW it was more my own dumb fault, I lost my bank card, cancelled it, it cancelled my NJPW World subscription and so I missed the first few G1 2019 shows waiting for the new card and just never caught up. What's the stuff I need to catch up on since as I've basically seen nothing since White's first title win. In what might be surprising to you, Taichi got REALLY popular and has been genuinely really good, forming a great tag team with Zack Sabre Jr., who has become much more charismatic than he used to be. Will Ospreay has a stable, but Jeff Cobb and Great O-Khan are frankly much more interesting than him in it and have gotten over. The latter got over a LOT, in large part because he saved a 10 year old from a drunken man accosting her. Oddly, when asked by her and police who he was, he gave his gimmick name and said to thank him, they could watch NJPW. Also, YOSHI-HASHI got a little bit credible and while he still isn't like, a top guy or anything, he won a few titles and raised his stock immensely. He's escaped "living punchline" status. Also, SHO's stock has dropped quite a bit due to joining House of Torture (and a never-ending feud with YOH that never goes anywhere), and is dragged down by the same BS that drags down EVIL.
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chrom
Backup Wench
Master of the rare undecuple post
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Post by chrom on Jun 10, 2022 12:37:07 GMT -5
In what might be surprising to you, Taichi got REALLY popular and has been genuinely really good, forming a great tag team with Zack Sabre Jr., who has become much more charismatic than he used to be. Will Ospreay has a stable, but Jeff Cobb and Great O-Khan are frankly much more interesting than him in it and have gotten over. The latter got over a LOT, in large part because he saved a 10 year old from a drunken man accosting her. Oddly, when asked by her and police who he was, he gave his gimmick name and said to thank him, they could watch NJPW. Also, YOSHI-HASHI got a little bit credible and while he still isn't like, a top guy or anything, he won a few titles and raised his stock immensely. He's escaped "living punchline" status. Also, SHO's stock has dropped quite a bit due to joining House of Torture (and a never-ending feud with YOH that never goes anywhere), and is dragged down by the same BS that drags down EVIL. House of Torture is definitely the worst thing in New Japan
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Convoy
El Dandy
Rusev admits to being a sex addict to large applause.
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Post by Convoy on Jun 10, 2022 12:55:12 GMT -5
I'll take any excuse to post wisdom from the ACE.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 10, 2022 13:02:21 GMT -5
I'll take any excuse to post wisdom from the ACE. Oh shit Now I'm a fan for the RIGHT reasons ...as well
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Post by Cyno on Jun 10, 2022 13:27:25 GMT -5
Lars can also wear his gear in tekken 7.
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RKTaker
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by RKTaker on Jun 10, 2022 13:31:10 GMT -5
I'm not saying this to try and sound like a jerk this is for everyone really but if you don't know somebody you can always look them up on youtube
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Post by Instant Classic on Jun 10, 2022 14:12:22 GMT -5
I'm not saying this to try and sound like a jerk this is for everyone really but if you don't know somebody you can always look them up on youtube Its nice to get input by people on a wrestling forum though.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 10, 2022 14:23:09 GMT -5
I'm not saying this to try and sound like a jerk this is for everyone really but if you don't know somebody you can always look them up on youtube At least this thread comes from a place of admitted ignorance and curiosity. Most of these "sell me on x" threads tend to come from a snooty "prove to me why your favorite wrestler doesn't suck you worthless peons" tone. So it's nice seeing a thread encouraging people to share their love of a specific wrestler instead of prematurely thumbing their nose at them.
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Convoy
El Dandy
Rusev admits to being a sex addict to large applause.
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Post by Convoy on Jun 10, 2022 15:41:12 GMT -5
More Tana appreciation:
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RKTaker
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by RKTaker on Jun 10, 2022 16:07:36 GMT -5
I'm not saying this to try and sound like a jerk this is for everyone really but if you don't know somebody you can always look them up on youtube At least this thread comes from a place of admitted ignorance and curiosity. Most of these "sell me on x" threads tend to come from a snooty "prove to me why your favorite wrestler doesn't suck you worthless peons" tone. So it's nice seeing a thread encouraging people to share their love of a specific wrestler instead of prematurely thumbing their nose at them. yes but even outside of these types of threads in the show threads especially in AEW when someone new shows up they go "who" I don't expect people to know every single wrestler out there, I definitely don't, but that's why I'm saying you can look them up on youtube
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Nr1Humanoid
Hank Scorpio
Is the #3 humanoid at best.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Jun 11, 2022 12:32:04 GMT -5
I'm not saying this to try and sound like a jerk this is for everyone really but if you don't know somebody you can always look them up on youtube Those videos tend to be rather technical and fact based. You get much more personal opinions in a thread like this.
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lucas_lee
Hank Scorpio
Heel turn is finished, now stripping away my personality
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Post by lucas_lee on Jun 11, 2022 14:16:20 GMT -5
At least this thread comes from a place of admitted ignorance and curiosity. Most of these "sell me on x" threads tend to come from a snooty "prove to me why your favorite wrestler doesn't suck you worthless peons" tone. So it's nice seeing a thread encouraging people to share their love of a specific wrestler instead of prematurely thumbing their nose at them. yes but even outside of these types of threads in the show threads especially in AEW when someone new shows up they go "who" I don't expect people to know every single wrestler out there, I definitely don't, but that's why I'm saying you can look them up on youtube To be fair you can't find many Tana matches on youtube outside of highlights
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Mozenrath
FANatic
Foppery and Whim
Speedy Speed Boy
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 11, 2022 14:29:40 GMT -5
Also, SHO's stock has dropped quite a bit due to joining House of Torture (and a never-ending feud with YOH that never goes anywhere), and is dragged down by the same BS that drags down EVIL. House of Torture is definitely the worst thing in New Japan More or less. I think it mainly comes down to knowing SHO and EVIL are better than needing to use weapons and interference in like every goddamn match. If they were just scrubs, people wouldn't be so annoyed because we'd know they needed hijinks to have serviceable matches, but no, these guys are being actively hindered. Yujiro's competent enough, but at least he's someone who has been low on the totem pole for a while now, so him cheating is whatever.
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chrom
Backup Wench
Master of the rare undecuple post
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Post by chrom on Jun 11, 2022 19:06:45 GMT -5
House of Torture is definitely the worst thing in New Japan More or less. I think it mainly comes down to knowing SHO and EVIL are better than needing to use weapons and interference in like every goddamn match. If they were just scrubs, people wouldn't be so annoyed because we'd know they needed hijinks to have serviceable matches, but no, these guys are being actively hindered. Yujiro's competent enough, but at least he's someone who has been low on the totem pole for a while now, so him cheating is whatever. That's what is most aggravating. We know that Sho and Evil can have great matches without resorting to doing a Jeff Jarrett match from 05 ever since Dick Togo had a hand in booking shows.
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Nr1Humanoid
Hank Scorpio
Is the #3 humanoid at best.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Jun 16, 2022 12:46:26 GMT -5
This does have me hyped for him coming in. Japanese guys in AEW has been disappointing so far. Hopefully they do not waste him on Moxley. I finally earned that Dick Tracy merit badge.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jun 16, 2022 12:50:57 GMT -5
I'd honestly have Tanahashi win. I dunno if New Japan want to risk that but they're at the point right now where they can go without Tanahashi for the smaller tours and he truly deserves an actual run in the US
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Convoy
El Dandy
Rusev admits to being a sex addict to large applause.
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Post by Convoy on Jun 16, 2022 15:04:30 GMT -5
Here's another Tana pick-me-up:
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Toates Madhackrviper
King Koopa
Is owed an Admin life-debt.
This avatar is so far out of date I might as well stick with it forever now.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Jun 17, 2022 1:18:16 GMT -5
House of Torture is definitely the worst thing in New Japan More or less. I think it mainly comes down to knowing SHO and EVIL are better than needing to use weapons and interference in like every goddamn match. If they were just scrubs, people wouldn't be so annoyed because we'd know they needed hijinks to have serviceable matches, but no, these guys are being actively hindered. Yujiro's competent enough, but at least he's someone who has been low on the totem pole for a while now, so him cheating is whatever. This seems like a good opportunity to ask the question I've been having about House of Torture. Western fans seem to universally despise the gimmick and think its a huge waste of SHO specifically. Cagematch rates all of the HoT matches low because of this and shit. But here's my thing. Is it over? Do the Japanese fans give the cheating heat? Does it work for the live crowds? That's not a defense. The whole thing sounds like booty ass and a waste of talent to me and it being over wouldn't change that for me. I'm just sort of wondering WHY Gedo would do this. And maybe it being over is the explanation.
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Mozenrath
FANatic
Foppery and Whim
Speedy Speed Boy
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 17, 2022 1:32:18 GMT -5
More or less. I think it mainly comes down to knowing SHO and EVIL are better than needing to use weapons and interference in like every goddamn match. If they were just scrubs, people wouldn't be so annoyed because we'd know they needed hijinks to have serviceable matches, but no, these guys are being actively hindered. Yujiro's competent enough, but at least he's someone who has been low on the totem pole for a while now, so him cheating is whatever. This seems like a good opportunity to ask the question I've been having about House of Torture. Western fans seem to universally despise the gimmick and think its a huge waste of SHO specifically. Cagematch rates all of the HoT matches low because of this and shit. But here's my thing. Is it over? Do the Japanese fans give the cheating heat? Does it work for the live crowds? That's not a defense. The whole thing sounds like booty ass and a waste of talent to me and it being over wouldn't change that for me. I'm just sort of wondering WHY Gedo would do this. And maybe it being over is the explanation. They get boos, sure, though even the commentary complain about the interference being repetitive.
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