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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 25, 2022 18:25:07 GMT -5
I'm still stuck on the NBA Draft quote of "The Kings have figured out a plan, they need to build the team around De'Aaron Fox"...
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jun 25, 2022 18:42:35 GMT -5
I'm still stuck on the NBA Draft quote of "The Kings have figured out a plan, they need to build the team around De'Aaron Fox"... The same plan that cost them Luka Doncic!
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Post by sfvega on Jun 25, 2022 19:47:55 GMT -5
So had a couple days to settle. Here's my draft winners and losers.
Winners:
Detroit- Easiest choice. What a week for them. Get rid of Jerami Grant's contract, and parlay that into the inexplicably falling Jaden Ivey, a possible top 10 talent in Jalen Duren, and plenty of cap space. Tons of talent, tons of options. They have the flexibility to go after disgruntled stars, good FAs, or even go the OKC route of taking on bad contracts for more picks. Need someone to take on Hayward or Hardaway contract? Sure, for a price.
Houston- I thought (and still think) that Houston blew it last year. They had Evan Mobley in their lap and took an inefficient, one-dimensional scorer in Green instead. This year, they had to go and TOTALLY REDEEM THEMSELVES. Through this whole process, Smith was projected to go #1 for about the last 5 or 6 months. To lose the lottery and still nab him at 3 is a godsend. Eason I'm not super high on, but he's very solid. TyTy Washington is a steal and a half at the end of round 1. Really overachieved this draft.
Portland- Sharpe is far from a sure thing, but I wholeheartedly believe he is more talented than Murray or Mathurin. Seems like they were in a great spot due to a couple of the teams in front of them, and took the exact guy I would have taken there.
Honorable mention- OKC. Good class, but they have so much draft ammo that you have to grade them on a curve.
Losers:
Sacramento- You cannot afford to take risks when your scouting is as bad as the Kings. You don't need hindsight to know that Ivey is the better prospect with the higher ceiling. Then they gave away Jaden Hardy. Imagine 10 months ago telling Kings fans they could have one of the only elite top 4 talents in the draft AND Hardy? That's an A draft.
Charlotte- How do you enter any draft with two top 15 picks and end up criticized from everyone? Michael Jordan figured it out. Sell the HIGHER of those picks for beans. No, not magic beans with the promise of Boban-sized beanstalks. Regular f***ing beans. 2nd round picks that teams throw at each other and discard like elementary school children with wadded up paper. Lottery picks are gold. 2nd round picks are chinese take-out menus. This isn't Rocket science, because even Houston hasn't f***ed up a draft pick this bad.
New York Knicks- What are you doing? Not as bad as the Hornets, but not a ton better. Those 1sts are highly protected.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jun 26, 2022 12:10:33 GMT -5
I don’t know whether to be inspired or alarmed by the Kings’ fandom absolute faith in Keegan.
The amount of “EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG!” going on through the forums and such is just absurd to me.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jun 26, 2022 12:40:07 GMT -5
I don’t know whether to be inspired or alarmed by the Kings’ fandom absolute faith in Keegan. The amount of “EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG!” going on through the forums and such is just absurd to me.
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Post by sfvega on Jun 26, 2022 14:35:24 GMT -5
Mf is 22 years old, I'd hope he'd be ready. He's the same age as JJ Redick was when he came out, and his ass spent a lifetime at Dook.
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Post by sfvega on Jun 26, 2022 14:36:11 GMT -5
I don’t know whether to be inspired or alarmed by the Kings’ fandom absolute faith in Keegan. The amount of “EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG!” going on through the forums and such is just absurd to me. Failure is an acquired taste.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 26, 2022 14:44:03 GMT -5
Supposedly Knicks focusing on Dejonte Murray if they can't get Brunson
I don't see Spurs letting him go not without a ransom. Knicks better off just getting some good enough role players to fill the void. I'd try to get Tyus Jones and Kyle Anderson on decent 2 year deals
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Post by sfvega on Jun 26, 2022 14:47:31 GMT -5
Supposedly Knicks focusing on Dejonte Murray if they can't get Brunson I don't see Spurs letting him go not without a ransom. Knicks better off just getting some good enough role players to fill the void. I'd try to get Tyus Jones and Kyle Anderson on decent 2 year deals Tyus on a short deal, sure. But honestly, I'd rather just have the cap flexibility than sign someone like Anderson. Could potentially turn that into a pick at the deadline if a contender is trying to get creative. Not that the Knicks are hurting for picks, but you can never have enough stockpiled.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 26, 2022 14:51:09 GMT -5
Supposedly Knicks focusing on Dejonte Murray if they can't get Brunson I don't see Spurs letting him go not without a ransom. Knicks better off just getting some good enough role players to fill the void. I'd try to get Tyus Jones and Kyle Anderson on decent 2 year deals Tyus on a short deal, sure. But honestly, I'd rather just have the cap flexibility than sign someone like Anderson. Could potentially turn that into a pick at the deadline if a contender is trying to get creative. Not that the Knicks are hurting for picks, but you can never have enough stockpiled. Or flip Anderson at the deadline. Knicks are sort of in a middle ground where they don't want to nor need to take on salary as far as long term deals go I think the only salary dump they would consider would be either Wall or Westbrook and they can get two picks in a deal while getting Fournier and the others off the books. They most importantly got to figure out what to do with Randle. Most likely RJ is going to get paid so they have to have an idea how they want to structure their cap since they wasted RJ rookie contract years
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Post by tenshi on Jun 26, 2022 18:19:26 GMT -5
Supposedly Knicks focusing on Dejonte Murray if they can't get Brunson I don't see Spurs letting him go not without a ransom. Knicks better off just getting some good enough role players to fill the void. I'd try to get Tyus Jones and Kyle Anderson on decent 2 year deals People saw the rumor of the Spurs fielding offers for Dejounte Murray and started throwing offers around to see which sticks, huh?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 26, 2022 18:32:54 GMT -5
Supposedly Knicks focusing on Dejonte Murray if they can't get Brunson I don't see Spurs letting him go not without a ransom. Knicks better off just getting some good enough role players to fill the void. I'd try to get Tyus Jones and Kyle Anderson on decent 2 year deals People saw the rumor of the Spurs fielding offers for Dejounte Murray and started throwing offers around to see which sticks, huh? Well, in fairness, Knicks been connected to him for a min but I just don't see Spurs moving him unless getting a big offer
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Post by tenshi on Jun 26, 2022 19:09:32 GMT -5
People saw the rumor of the Spurs fielding offers for Dejounte Murray and started throwing offers around to see which sticks, huh? Well, in fairness, Knicks been connected to him for a min but I just don't see Spurs moving him unless getting a big offer As they should. The ol' reliable of THT, Kendrick Nunn and a 2nd round pick won't be enough to land Dejounte. If teams want someone as good as him, they'd have to pay a rather expensive price.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jun 26, 2022 20:17:26 GMT -5
I'd take Murray over Brunson all day.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 26, 2022 21:17:17 GMT -5
I'd take Murray over Brunson all day. Everyone will I liked Brunson coming into this season as a potential target. He was a good $60M candidate over a 4 year deal but he raised his price stupid high and I don't think it is worth paying Tho it has been said Mavs aren't letting him go
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Post by sfvega on Jun 26, 2022 21:20:05 GMT -5
I'd take Murray over Brunson all day. Everyone will I liked Brunson coming into this season as a potential target. He was a good $60M candidate over a 4 year deal but he raised his price stupid high and I don't think it is worth paying Tho it has been said Mavs aren't letting him go Yeah, it's not so much a choice of Murray or Brunson, but Brunson for straight cap space or Murray for a boatload of assets.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jun 26, 2022 21:20:10 GMT -5
Well, in fairness, Knicks been connected to him for a min but I just don't see Spurs moving him unless getting a big offer As they should. The ol' reliable of THT, Kendrick Nunn and a 2nd round pick won't be enough to land Dejounte. If teams want someone as good as him, they'd have to pay a rather expensive price. Too bad the Kings don’t have Hield and Bagley anymore. That would assuredly get it done.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 26, 2022 21:23:35 GMT -5
Everyone will I liked Brunson coming into this season as a potential target. He was a good $60M candidate over a 4 year deal but he raised his price stupid high and I don't think it is worth paying Tho it has been said Mavs aren't letting him go Yeah, it's not so much a choice of Murray or Brunson, but Brunson for straight cap space or Murray for a boatload of assets. And you rather spend the cap then give up the assets unless you giving up those protected picks My rule has always been never give up assets and money but at least Murray still has 2 years on his deal. I do think there is a little fire to his smoke in regards to Murray traded somewhere. He is young but Spurs probably willing to move him while his value is really high
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 26, 2022 21:28:00 GMT -5
Figured Skip was going want the smoke
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Post by tenshi on Jun 26, 2022 22:58:37 GMT -5
Figured Skip was going want the smoke If Skip was in wrestling, he'd make absurd amounts of heat with minimal effort as a manager. As far as the Murray/Collins supposed trade goes, here's a piece of a podcast from Marc Stein talking about it... twitter.com/Josh810/status/1541236158188888065
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