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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Jul 25, 2022 17:44:20 GMT -5
How high is HHH and Stephanie on Roman Reigns compared to Vince? now idk, but Vince reportedly wanted to push Big E, but Trips and Steph were high on Roman and the infamous Roman single push began. again it was rumors, but I definitely remember reports.
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Post by Pipe_Bomb2k13 on Jul 25, 2022 18:05:20 GMT -5
Riddle, Theory, Shotzi, Ciampa etc give people their first names back or not change it at all like a Walter or LA Knight. No more wrestlers standing around in ring for like 20 minutes while we recap or advertise something before their opponents even come to the ring.
Plenty more I agree with in here with you all but I couldn't see these mentioned, if it has then sorry I didn't see it but those are the main things I couldn't see mentioned that grind my gears.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Jul 25, 2022 18:09:24 GMT -5
Reckon changes will be glacial then drastic. Events will hit a point where it's safer NOT to look like Vince's WWE
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jul 25, 2022 18:43:59 GMT -5
Honestly, Kevin Nash would make an amazing babyface GM, he’d be laid back enough to not interfere too much but also the bad guys wouldn’t necessarily want to mess with him. Oh I'm down for Nash on TV and XPac. I picture him as a very laid back, hands off GM, he’s there to occasionally make announcements and settle disputes. He’d just be chilling in his office, a glass of white wine in his hand, putting off almost a Lorne Michaels vibe. Maybe he’s eating out of a Tupperware, maybe not.
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Jul 25, 2022 18:49:21 GMT -5
Oh man...remember when the Hadron Collider was turned on, and people said that we jumped universes, we somehow ended up in the one many of us have wanted for over a decade now!
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Jul 25, 2022 19:06:43 GMT -5
Any chance Raw goes back to 2 hours? When it first happened, reports were HHH was deadset against the change.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Jul 25, 2022 19:12:20 GMT -5
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Post by Cyno on Jul 25, 2022 19:30:30 GMT -5
Any chance Raw goes back to 2 hours? When it first happened, reports were HHH was deadset against the change. Slim to none. Vince hated the third hour from a creative standpoint, too. USA practically demanded it of them.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jul 25, 2022 19:39:19 GMT -5
Reckon changes will be glacial then drastic. Events will hit a point where it's safer NOT to look like Vince's WWE I don't think they're going to run into anything like that. The pressure will come from people who frankly don't know what Vince's WWE looks like. They'll want to know people are in charge who will keep the company stable and not end up embroiled in scandals of their own. At the moment and as far as public knowledge goes, Khan does that, Steph does that, Trips does that. A long-time WWE viewer can absolutely pinpoint any differences or changes, and hell people have been doing that as recently as Smackdown and I'm not watching Raw but I'm sur we'll hear about any differences in tone or looseness, but those aren't the people who WWE needs to appease on the front of "We're avoiding the scandal, we promise"
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Post by schma on Jul 25, 2022 21:14:07 GMT -5
I'm on board with making Io a huge threat but please no more 'non-title' matches ever again. If a singles champ loses a singles match via pinfall or submission they should lose the title. Same idea with tag champs. I think they're fine, but like most things WWE has done over the years it's more that they absolutely overdo it to the point of insanity. This will certainly be interesting to see: Triple H has his health issues, and he's about to have a lot more responsibilities than a one hour developmental show and there'll be a lot more masters he'll have to please (networks, sponsors, different rosters, etc). That said, any shakeup to WWE's creative is desperately needed, and old school NXT clearly shows what Triple H would like a wrestling show to be, so we'll see how they shake out. Can't see myself getting back into WWE any time soon; Vince was arguably my biggest reason for walking away from it as a promotion, but things like the Saudi deal are still in place that I don't want to support. That said, this is a big opportunity for things to evolve in a way they haven't for this company in literally 20 years, so I don't blame anyone for being interested in what they might portend. I think what really killed it was the trope they rely on where the person has to beat the champ in order to get a title match. They have to prove they beat the champ so that they can prove they can beat the champ?
I do hope that HHH relies on some delegation. They have a writing team, use them.
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Post by LiamMcDuggle on Jul 25, 2022 21:19:57 GMT -5
Hopefully they can do a brand split and actually keep it split
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2022 21:26:51 GMT -5
Any chance Raw goes back to 2 hours? When it first happened, reports were HHH was deadset against the change. The only chance it has of going back to 2hrs is if they leave USA network and even then still a low chance because that 3rd hr brings them about an extra 80mil or so. That is no little chunk of change to be leaving on the table no matter how much of a hassle a 3rd is.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Jul 25, 2022 22:10:14 GMT -5
I, too, think it will be a gradual shift, as you don't want to change too much, too fast. That will confuse people.
But you start a little push here, a little different direction there, and slowly but surely, we could end up with a more cohesive show.
I hope at least the last minute rewrites are done, save the few emergency situations that may arise.
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Post by Fade on Jul 25, 2022 22:11:13 GMT -5
RAW felt very different.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jul 25, 2022 22:13:01 GMT -5
Just little quality of life things, like everything flowing together into a coherent program! I simply can’t wait until Team HHH’s creative juices are flowing through the system. I’m ready to be titillated by the product again!
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Post by Hypnosis on Jul 25, 2022 22:14:20 GMT -5
Still some minor flaws, but the rest of this year's WWE programming could be interesting as time goes on.
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Post by CMWaters on Jul 25, 2022 22:15:03 GMT -5
And I know it's partially because they've got SummerSlam on Saturday, but pretty much everything tonight was a tag team match except for Alexa/Doudrop.
Again, coincidental perhaps, but was something I noted.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 25, 2022 22:19:13 GMT -5
I think it will be hard to judge the overall direction based on tonight. It was a decent show live without any stupidity really hut fairly by the numbers. Vince could still do a good show every so often (like their last MSG show).
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Post by Fade on Jul 25, 2022 22:23:59 GMT -5
Just little quality of life things, like everything flowing together into a coherent program! I simply can’t wait until Team HHH’s creative juices are flowing through the system. I’m ready to be titillated by the product again! Thing is, people are right in saying major changes will be gradual, but Vince had SO many eccentricities that the lack of it naturally makes for a lot of change: Rey being unscripted and speaking in Spanish for a prolonged period, the way the people in the back watched the tv, even the announcers pulling back. And of course, a lot of the performers feel more uninhibited. None of this would have happened with Vince around, he had his hooks in everything. The three hour will always be a drag but I am interested to see how and if the rest of the content changes from now on.
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Post by Facetious on Jul 25, 2022 22:28:33 GMT -5
Just little quality of life things, like everything flowing together into a coherent program! I simply can’t wait until Team HHH’s creative juices are flowing through the system. I’m ready to be titillated by the product again! Thing is, people are right in saying major changes will be gradual, but Vince had SO many eccentricities that the lack of it naturally makes for a lot of change: Rey being unscripted and speaking in Spanish for a prolonged period, the way the people in the back watched the tv, even the announcers pulling back. And of course, a lot of the performers feel more uninhibited. None of this would have happened with Vince around, he had his hooks in everything. The three hour will always be a drag but I am interested to see how and if the rest of the content changes from now on. You have me interested. I probably won't ever do Raw because I'm not sitting through 3 hours, but SD might be an occasional watch if it isn't a chore to sit through
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