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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 26, 2022 7:06:43 GMT -5
Don’t get me wrong, I rather a wrestler be pushed too hard as opposed to the 50/50 BS they used to do. He will find his footing and this is necessary lessons for him HHH clearly likes him as well based upon how he was used in NXT so he will find ways to get him over especially since he lost the big Vince factor now Just to add to this as well, Post-SummerSlam 2000, they didn’t give up on Billy Gunn. They tried in 2001, they tried again in 2002 and they tried again in 2003. After that, well, he was TNA’s problem. Even if it fails and even if the other pushes fail, if they like you enough they’ll find a way to try again. Yeah Theory is what, 24-25? He’s got a long career ahead and he’s going to find his way. Arrogant young heel is wrestling 101, it works until you find an actual character. Just a matter of them getting him that character but the way he’s set up now an ass whoopin can do him a lot of good because his world has crumbled and now they can find something for him to do
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Post by HisRoyalGreeness on Jul 26, 2022 7:47:40 GMT -5
Theory is just biding his time until TV-14. Unfortunately he misunderstood what that means.
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Post by 4real on Jul 26, 2022 8:01:51 GMT -5
He isn’t ready and that segment just proved it. He got massacred. He seems shoehorned into this position that he hasn’t earned yet.
I can’t imagine him winning his cash in. It would be such a buzzkill after almost 2 years of Roman as Champion. I hope WWE seriously aren’t considering having him win the title.
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Post by thechase on Jul 26, 2022 8:02:35 GMT -5
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 26, 2022 9:26:43 GMT -5
Theory's got a lot of talent. I think the issue I'd that they were asking him to be something he's not (at least right now) I thought giving him the US title was fine but they need to kind of pivot
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 26, 2022 9:28:00 GMT -5
Ayy, maybe Theory a good heel after all cause that whole segment, I’m screaming, “BEAT HIS ASS👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾“
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jul 26, 2022 9:44:16 GMT -5
Theory given a gradual push up the ladder would have worked just fine. Giving him the kiss of death "Mr McMahon's chosen one" push was just begging for him to stumble.
Kid has talent and he has charisma, but they just have yet to figure out how to do it right
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 26, 2022 9:51:50 GMT -5
I saw a clip of this on Twitter. He murdered that man. I don't know much about the other guy, but they may need to retool him entirely.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2022 10:00:24 GMT -5
They should just turn Roman face after SummerSlam. He was acting pretty face-ish for most of the night, especially during that segment.
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Post by msc on Jul 26, 2022 10:04:20 GMT -5
They should just turn Roman face after SummerSlam. He was acting pretty face-ish for most of the night, especially during that segment. As soon as he drops the belt to Drew Mac.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jul 26, 2022 10:04:46 GMT -5
They should just turn Roman face after SummerSlam. He was acting pretty face-ish for most of the night, especially during that segment. Yeah, they're at the point where insisting on keeping Roman heel is just damaging the next crop of babyfaces they're expecting to carry the company when Roman's done full time. It's been pretty wild to watch how people have warmed up to Roman over time. I remember being at the Backlash where they were chanting "beat the traffic" at the Joe/Roman main event and now everybody's standing with a single finger in the air. I don't know if Roman gets cheered over Cody or Rock, but other than that, I think it's time to start putting Roman up against heels.
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Post by Stu on Jul 26, 2022 10:42:26 GMT -5
Just watched the clip. Has heel Roman been allowed to show that much personality lately or was this the first in a long time?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 26, 2022 10:50:44 GMT -5
Just watched the clip. Has heel Roman been allowed to show that much personality lately or was this the first in a long time? It’s generally been like this when they don’t got him on super serious mode That felt natural tho so most likely something Roman said and wasn’t told to say or if it was something he was told to say he hit it in his own beat
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Post by Dave the Dave on Jul 26, 2022 10:54:25 GMT -5
Suffering succotash, what a line.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2022 10:56:03 GMT -5
They should just turn Roman face after SummerSlam. He was acting pretty face-ish for most of the night, especially during that segment. Yeah, they're at the point where insisting on keeping Roman heel is just damaging the next crop of babyfaces they're expecting to carry the company when Roman's done full time. It's been pretty wild to watch how people have warmed up to Roman over time. I remember being at the Backlash where they were chanting "beat the traffic" at the Joe/Roman main event and now everybody's standing with a single finger in the air. I don't know if Roman gets cheered over Cody or Rock, but other than that, I think it's time to start putting Roman up against heels. Yeah, I want Cody to win the titles at WM, I just don't know how much longer you can keep Roman as a full on heel when he gets these reactions every week, especially now that he's in that special attraction role.
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Post by msc on Jul 26, 2022 10:57:35 GMT -5
I actually don't mind Theory's current gimmick. He's the young pup who got a lucky win and thinks he's the main event dogs bollocks, but he's not, he's immature, inexperienced and those two things keep bashing him, all the while he tries to act like he belongs in the main event already, and all the main eventers are like "huh, who?"
Nowt wrong with that, as long as they, you know, build on it long term.
But there's no way he should be cashing in successfully.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 26, 2022 11:17:38 GMT -5
This led to a hilarious moment on Observer Radio:
Bryan: So Roman told Theory his Daddy isn't here anymore. Dave: Which of course was in reference to Johnny Gargano. Bryan: What? Dave: He was his father figure in NXT. Bryan:...I think it was in reference to Vince being gone since he had been backing Theory... Dave: Oh I guess that makes sense too. It could've been that.
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Post by eJm on Jul 26, 2022 11:20:31 GMT -5
This led to a hilarious moment on Observer Radio: Bryan: So Roman told Theory his Daddy isn't here anymore. Dave: Which of course was in reference to Johnny Gargano. Bryan: What? Dave: He was his father figure in NXT. Bryan:...I think it was in reference to Vince being gone since he had been backing Theory... Dave: Oh I guess that makes sense too. It could've been that. There are a lot of problematic aspects of Dave Meltzer, that I can agree with…and then you get stuff like this and it weirdly makes them worth it.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 26, 2022 11:58:59 GMT -5
They should just turn Roman face after SummerSlam. He was acting pretty face-ish for most of the night, especially during that segment. Yeah, it’s time, I think. f*** it, none of these other heels get that definitive comeuppance, just skip past all them extras and get to the good stuff.
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Post by sunnytaker on Jul 26, 2022 12:00:49 GMT -5
He isn’t ready and that segment just proved it. He got massacred. He seems shoehorned into this position that he hasn’t earned yet. I can’t imagine him winning his cash in. It would be such a buzzkill after almost 2 years of Roman as Champion. I hope WWE seriously aren’t considering having him win the title. i'm pretty much convinced at this point they wanted to be sure the person with the MITB contract was someone no one would mind in the slightest to fail the cash-in so as to not interrupt roman's um... reign.
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