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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Aug 1, 2022 14:08:39 GMT -5
I’m leaving this question wide open to invite discussion.
WCW going from the top wrestling company to yeah the WWF has been kicking our asses for a few years to oops we’re out of business has to be a strong favorite.
Bullying and sexual abuse being the final mail for CHIKARA has to be up there though. Especially surprising if you just watched the in-ring product and had no idea about some backstage stuff.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Aug 1, 2022 14:14:57 GMT -5
If the promotion ends and the owner puts out a Petersonesque video about cancel culture, it's the worst. So yep: CHIKARA.
And especially since the monsters, Kobald and JFDC, were given their power mostly because of loyalty to the boss and nothing else.
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Post by XIII on Aug 1, 2022 15:04:40 GMT -5
ECW has to be up there. From the heights of their peak to running a show in Arkansas(?) without Paul E. there because he’s in Hollywood “negotiating a new home for the show” and then he shows up on WWE TV.
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Post by Burst on Aug 1, 2022 15:06:09 GMT -5
CHIKARA is probably the most damaging in terms of the promotion itself and in terms of ensuring accessibility of the tape library (which I'm assuming is still in the hands of Quack unless he had to sell it at some point).
The one solace to come out of that though is how well all the CHIKARA alumni in AEW and such have been doing. It's a nice little bowtie on a kick in the nuts to Quack for everyone to be doing well while he's not even famous enough to hang out in the "cancelled wrestlers who are still somehow enough of a name to occasionally get booked" club.
Lucha Underground was probably the most painful of modern promotions in terms of how dragged out the death seemed, if you will, or at the very least, the uncertainty about whether or not the show was getting renewed or not.
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Post by mattyy on Aug 1, 2022 15:50:30 GMT -5
CHIKARA is probably the most damaging in terms of the promotion itself and in terms of ensuring accessibility of the tape library (which I'm assuming is still in the hands of Quack unless he had to sell it at some point). since it's on IWTV, I'd like to think Smart Mark Video bought the the last few years of shows. |
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 1, 2022 17:21:36 GMT -5
Lucha Underground was probably the most painful of modern promotions in terms of how dragged out the death seemed, if you will, or at the very least, the uncertainty about whether or not the show was getting renewed or not. That abysmal fourth season was depressing. It wasn't until the very end of it that things were finally looking up again quality-wise. |
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Post by James Fabiano on Aug 1, 2022 17:43:22 GMT -5
AWA. Pink room. That is all.
(and yes I know...that wasn't the last episode...)
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 1, 2022 17:50:42 GMT -5
ECW. Paul Heyman sabotaging attempts to save the company and not telling talent when the company is dead, instead choosing to string everyone along while readying a parachute for him, and him only. Once that parachute was deployed, he'd go on to work to sabotage the careers of people who were loyal to him in ECW behind their backs in the WWF.
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Post by chrom on Aug 1, 2022 17:52:36 GMT -5
Lucha Underground was probably the most painful of modern promotions in terms of how dragged out the death seemed, if you will, or at the very least, the uncertainty about whether or not the show was getting renewed or not. That abysmal fourth season was depressing. It wasn't until the very end of it that things were finally looking up again quality-wise. LU's third and fourth seasons were a mess both backstage and on TV. |
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Post by Cyno on Aug 1, 2022 17:54:38 GMT -5
Yeah, I gotta go with CHIKARA.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Aug 1, 2022 17:56:59 GMT -5
ECW. Paul Heyman sabotaging attempts to save the company and not telling talent when the company is dead, instead choosing to string everyone along while readying a parachute for him, and him only. Once that parachute was deployed, he'd go on to work to sabotage the careers of people who were loyal to him in ECW behind their backs in the WWF. I don't condone or endorse murder, but I Understand Tommy Dreamer wanting run up on Paul E at a show with a burner |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2022 18:09:48 GMT -5
That abysmal fourth season was depressing. It wasn't until the very end of it that things were finally looking up again quality-wise. LU's third and fourth seasons were a mess both backstage and on TV. I would ask what your issue with the 3rd season on air was but I do not want Gecko wandering in here and spoilers so ima just instead say we differ wildly in opinion about the 3rd season , you do not have much love for it but it is my favourite season. |
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Post by CeilingFan on Aug 1, 2022 18:46:10 GMT -5
UWF 1987. Their Champion successfully defends his title at Starrcade, but 2 months later they no longer exist.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Aug 1, 2022 19:26:39 GMT -5
Wrestle Circus having their final show canceled the day before, leaving traveling talent and fans screwed if they were already in town might give Chikara a run in terms of sleaziest end.
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Post by Starshine on Aug 1, 2022 19:35:22 GMT -5
The way CHIKARA ended was pretty f***ing sad. I definitely sympathise with its fanbase.
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Post by Starshine on Aug 1, 2022 19:37:09 GMT -5
That abysmal fourth season was depressing. It wasn't until the very end of it that things were finally looking up again quality-wise. LU's third and fourth seasons were a mess both backstage and on TV. Honestly, it was Ultima Lucha for Season 2 where they started losing me. It just stopped being a fun show. |
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Post by clodhopper on Aug 1, 2022 19:46:29 GMT -5
LU's third and fourth seasons were a mess both backstage and on TV. I would ask what your issue with the 3rd season on air was but I do not want Gecko wandering in here and spoilers so ima just instead say we differ wildly in opinion about the 3rd season , you do not have much love for it but it is my favourite season.
Personally, I'd be somewhere inbetween.
Seasons 1&2 - best wrestling show I've ever seen Season 3 - still decent but the cracks are definitely starting to show Season 4 - terrible
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Post by BorneAgain on Aug 1, 2022 19:51:23 GMT -5
To be honest, Southpaw Championship Wrestling ending with a taping inside a bar in front of 20 fans was a bit depressing, though it being Taco Tuesday night did seem to brighten up Lance Catamaran's spirits.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 2, 2022 7:28:56 GMT -5
CHIKARA is an interesting one. The initial shutdown was a mess to the point it could have drove people away. But after the initial excitement it was such a slow death that it was painful. Even watching the later seasons it no longer looks like the fun promotion it used to be.
To be closed because Quack got ousted in Speaking Out and with him making a pretentious post? So unfair to the fanbase and wrestlers that gave their heart to Chikara.
There was a fed that started in Philly around the same time ROH did... I cannot remember the name but I want to say it was Pro Wrestling Impact? Their big angle was Quiet Storm kept calling out Low Ki while he was on tour with Zero 1 in Japan. They actually booked to run at the Philly Spectrum. I don't believe it was at the main arena but the owners hoped the show up hard put so much into it and... the show tanked. Doomed the promotion. Sucked more cause they were giving undercarriage guys from other indies a place to shine as main eventers.
3pw fizzling out sucked because in 2002 and 2003 they were a big 3 indy with ROH and CZW and were the closest thing to a true ECW send-off.
EPIC in California was a sad end too. Shows were good and gave SoCal talent a place to work (XPW stopped booking RevPro guys like Super Dragon and Excalibur because they made the XPW talent look bad) but Gary Yapp was convinced due to his connections in TV he could get a gig. Basically Epic broke him but he expected a TV deal to save them. Never came. He kind of had a breakdown and would throw pity parties for himself on wrestling forums. Then his wife life him for The Messiah.
Speaking of XPW it is never not funny to me that after all the scummy stuff Rob Black did the reason they went out of business was because his porn company got raided by the feds
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 2, 2022 8:27:01 GMT -5
To be honest, Southpaw Championship Wrestling ending with a taping inside a bar in front of 20 fans was a bit depressing, though it being Taco Tuesday night did seem to brighten up Lance Catamaran's spirits. Man remember that tease of it returning |
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