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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 11, 2022 13:57:29 GMT -5
Not just Cena, I remember a few years back most on here had him pegged as one of the next big names of the company. Like, long haul face of the company. I was one. The Dream gimmick was so far from who Patrick Clark had appeared to be. I thought he was incredible
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 11, 2022 15:06:41 GMT -5
If Clark had been able to keep up his work after he came back from injury, and hadn't turned out to be a giant sex creep, dude absolutely would have been a big name for the company. Triple H loved him, he was plenty over, and he seemed talented enough to be a huge deal one day. Then he seemed to have run out of steam idea-wise, ran out of steam in-ring after injury, and turned out to be a giant sex creep. But there's definitely a world where he doesn't pull what he pulled, keeps up with it, and right now he's poised for big things.
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Post by government mule on Sept 11, 2022 15:09:08 GMT -5
Thought he was the next special attraction, the type of character that didn't need a title involved to enhance feuds, and could work as face or heel, a bit like Jake Roberts. The Aliester Black feud is one of the best NXT ever done.
What a waste.
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Post by XIII on Sept 11, 2022 15:13:04 GMT -5
There are so many what if’s about this dude. Take away the injuries and sex perv stuff and dude may have gotten called up when Vince was still in charge and you just know Vince was going to book that character in some dumb old bullshit. Dude may have been ruined no matter what, whether it was his fault or not.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 11, 2022 15:20:13 GMT -5
There are so many what if’s about this dude. Take away the injuries and sex perv stuff and dude may have gotten called up when Vince was still in charge and you just know Vince was going to book that character in some dumb old bullshit. Dude may have been ruined no matter what, whether it was his fault or not. Vince absolutely would have f***ed with him, but it's worth bearing in mind that Vince also dressed up Karrion Kross like the guy from Zardoz and that didn't stop Triple H from bringing him back. Vince could have had to not only misuse him, but then fire him, and then he'd have to end up locked down under a long-term AEW contract to not find his way back in short order.
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Post by pinja on Sept 14, 2022 11:54:21 GMT -5
It also takes some talent to not be such a garbage person that you torpedo your career, so ultimately I think it's fair to call Velveteen Dream extraordinary untalented.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 14, 2022 13:00:38 GMT -5
If Clark had been able to keep up his work after he came back from injury, and hadn't turned out to be a giant sex creep, dude absolutely would have been a big name for the company. Triple H loved him, he was plenty over, and he seemed talented enough to be a huge deal one day. Then he seemed to have run out of steam idea-wise, ran out of steam in-ring after injury, and turned out to be a giant sex creep. But there's definitely a world where he doesn't pull what he pulled, keeps up with it, and right now he's poised for big things. Is that the timeline where CM Punk eats muffins in silence and Ace Steel announces he's a vegetarian? Tempting timeline, yet at the same time you'd worry on who did something insane on said timeline...
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Sept 14, 2022 16:42:21 GMT -5
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Post by jhbboy198917 on Sept 14, 2022 16:51:58 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2022 16:53:01 GMT -5
Look, just because Robert Stone and Tony Khan look alike doesn't mean Stone was one of the others doing coke!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2022 16:56:05 GMT -5
Countering accusations of being a video pervert creeper with he was too busy doing coke is certainly a U-turn I did not have on the bingo card.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2022 16:57:12 GMT -5
"Now control that narrative, you asshole" would've been such a great line if it didn't come from a complete scumbag piece of shit like Dream.
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Post by jhbboy198917 on Sept 14, 2022 17:08:21 GMT -5
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Post by mistery on Sept 14, 2022 17:11:23 GMT -5
I should mention that Dream doesn't seem to have any evidence of this, and he has absolutely nothing to lose by trying to tank others careers at this point. Also its peak "throwing stones in glass houses" considering Dream is currently facing criminal charges for doing cocaine. In front of a police officer at that.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Sept 14, 2022 17:13:28 GMT -5
Countering accusations of being a video pervert creeper with he was too busy doing coke is certainly a U-turn I did not have on the bingo card.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Sept 14, 2022 17:19:25 GMT -5
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Post by "Magic" Mark Hurr on Sept 14, 2022 17:22:07 GMT -5
Somebody tell pro wrestling to slow down. Save some for next year.
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Post by XIII on Sept 14, 2022 17:42:03 GMT -5
Somebody tell pro wrestling to slow down. Save some for next year. We’ve been saying that for like 2 years now and it just keeps getting crazier. I’m almost scared to ask what comes next. lol
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Post by Dub H on Sept 14, 2022 17:50:06 GMT -5
Ringside News:TK has a secret drug room where they do drug parties.
Meanwhile at NXT...
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Sept 14, 2022 17:53:38 GMT -5
I should mention that Dream doesn't seem to have any evidence of this, and he has absolutely nothing to lose by trying to tank others careers at this point. Also its peak "throwing stones in glass houses" considering Dream is currently facing criminal charges for doing cocaine. In front of a police officer at that. I mean, EC3 himself made it sound like some immoral shenanigans were going down.
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