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Post by The Rick Jericho on Sept 5, 2022 20:22:23 GMT -5
Between the Drew match and the Acclaimed match and fans wanting both of them having an audible and changing the results.
Historically, what matches were changed on the fly and they actually called an audible?
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Sept 5, 2022 20:26:35 GMT -5
Trish wasn't supposed to win the title at New Years Revolution 2005 but Lita injured her knee early in the match and they switched the finish on the fly.
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Post by dangerousdanpotato on Sept 5, 2022 20:28:58 GMT -5
The Rock vs Hollywood Hogan
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Post by BorneAgain on Sept 5, 2022 20:30:04 GMT -5
Booker T vs. Rick Martel at Superbrawl was supposed to have the latter winning, but after his knee injury Booker was given the victory and the subsequent match with Saturn had to be called entirely on the fly because the two weren't even supposed to wrestle each other that night.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Sept 5, 2022 20:32:33 GMT -5
The Rock vs Hollywood Hogan Really? Hogan was actually suppose to go over Rock and send him away to Hollywood? Interesting...
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Sept 5, 2022 20:37:11 GMT -5
Rachel Evers vs. Marti Belle in the first round of MYC.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Sept 5, 2022 22:13:36 GMT -5
Small example, and a pre-match audible, but years ago I read about an indie match between a baby face Tom Brandi and a heel Greg Valentine where the crowd, for whatever reason, was apeshit for Valentine. Immediately after introductions, the crowd began chanting, “Greg-the-Ham-mer,” which apparently touched Valentine.
Brandi grabbed the mic and turned himself heel. I’m not sure if it affected the finish.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Sept 5, 2022 22:20:32 GMT -5
The Usos against Nakamura and Rick Boogs finish was changed due to Boogs injuring his knee.
Eddie Guerrero and Perry Saturn were booked to go over the New Age Outlaws in their Raw debut after the Radicalz debuted but when Eddie injured his shoulder doing the frog splash he told Road Dogg to pin him because he was in so much pain he couldn't do anything.
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Post by GodzillaIsMyMonster on Sept 5, 2022 23:13:30 GMT -5
The Rock vs Hollywood Hogan Really? Hogan was actually suppose to go over Rock and send him away to Hollywood? Interesting... No. But Hogan was Hardcore supposed to be the heel. The crowd reacting the way they did led to it basically being Face vs Face
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 5, 2022 23:17:45 GMT -5
Flair famously changing the finish in the Dominican? The crowd was rabid, and he decided there was no damn way he was pinning the local hero, fearing a riot.
He lost the NWA title. Got it back backstage and the local promotion gave the fans some story about how the local guy wouldn’t take a victory in a dubious manner. I think Piper was interfering?
I’m really not sure of the details other than to know it happened.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 5, 2022 23:42:23 GMT -5
Flair famously changing the finish in the Dominican? The crowd was rabid, and he decided there was no damn way he was pinning the local hero, fearing a riot. He lost the NWA title. Got it back backstage and the local promotion gave the fans some story about how the local guy wouldn’t take a victory in a dubious manner. I think Piper was interfering? I’m really not sure of the details other than to know it happened. I think it was Puerto Rico, but yeah, that's the gist of it, in any case. Like, these were fans that'd do things like pelt wrestlers with batteries, or how one poured a glass of piss all over Mankind in like '96. This was a valid concern for Flair.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 5, 2022 23:49:30 GMT -5
Flair famously changing the finish in the Dominican? The crowd was rabid, and he decided there was no damn way he was pinning the local hero, fearing a riot. He lost the NWA title. Got it back backstage and the local promotion gave the fans some story about how the local guy wouldn’t take a victory in a dubious manner. I think Piper was interfering? I’m really not sure of the details other than to know it happened. I think it was Puerto Rico, but yeah, that's the gist of it, in any case. Like, these were fans that'd do things like pelt wrestlers with batteries, or how one poured a glass of piss all over Mankind in like '96. This was a valid concern for Flair. I know Flair had another story going somewhere and he was with the diplomats and one of them turned to him and said, "Why does he just let him lift him over his head like that?" Flair says as an aside to the reader, "I don't know what line of bullshit they got sold on, but they obviously thought they had the Olympics coming." Flair offered up, "Well, wrestlers are *very* strong. This may have even been Collision in Korea. I know it was in his book, which I only read the once, so again, vague details.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 5, 2022 23:52:37 GMT -5
The minute-to-minute stuff in the ring is much more likely to change than the ending, but one example was an OVW match where someone, I forget who, came out to the ring and started trash talking the audience. Batista hadn't made his entrance yet, and as "The Leviathan", he was going to be heel, but Cornette told him to be a babyface for the night because his opponent was being a dipshit.
In Herb Abrams' UWF, Cactus Jack changed the ending of a match with Jimmy Snuka that he was going to win, given Snuka had inspired him to wrestle to begin with. Rather than lose to Snuka, which Herb would not have approved of given he was pushing Cactus at the time, Mick decided in the ring that he and Snuka would brawl on the outside for a double count out. In a lumberjack match. To the utter confusion of the lumberjacks.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 6, 2022 0:01:46 GMT -5
Neville got hurt during a match with Jericho. To hear Jericho tell it, he and only he noticed, so he called an audible and, in character as an awesome heel, pushed the referee to force a DQ, he and Lil' Naitch, who still didn't know Neville was injured, got into a legit argument and started screaming "f*** you!" at each other, finally they ring the bell. At no one could tell anything was amiss.
In reality, Neville got injured, tried to carry on, they spend a long, long time checking on Neville, can be heard asking "Are you ok? Are you ok?". Lil Naitch motions for them to separate, Jericho rolls him up instead, Naitch doesn't count 3 for some reason, Jericho freaks the f*** out, totally broke character, screaming "HE'S HURT! HE'S HURT! and shoves Naitch *hard*, bell is rung. They get in an argument...a real one.
Jericho's version of this story is hilarious because everyone on Earth knew what happened, but he thinks he kayfabed the world.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Sept 6, 2022 0:11:43 GMT -5
The minute-to-minute stuff in the ring is much more likely to change than the ending, but one example was an OVW match where someone, I forget who, came out to the ring and started trash talking the audience. Batista hadn't made his entrance yet, and as "The Leviathan", he was going to be heel, but Cornette told him to be a babyface for the night because his opponent was being a dipshit. "Big" Russ McCullough.
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Post by saneiac on Sept 7, 2022 0:56:32 GMT -5
Rachel Evers vs. Marti Belle in the first round of MYC. Tegan Nox vs Rhea Ripley in the second MYC. Nox was supposed to win, but tore her ACL early in the match. They changed the finish to Rhea winning by ref stoppage.
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Post by jason1980s on Sept 7, 2022 11:46:25 GMT -5
He was in a match with Rikishi and Haku, who were opponents. Russ was holding Rikishi for Haku to kick, he didn't let Rikishi go and Rikishi took the kick. Rikishi immediately got pissed and was hitting Russ with chair shots in and out of the ring. This link was around that time though I don't think they knew what the reason for it was yet. Some site Russ potatoing Rikishi which may have been earlier. One guy in particular details how unprofessional Rikishi was at the time, which was established here at times. I do think he's gotten better over the last few years-maybe because he's only doing signings and not actual matches where guys often have to rely on the gimmick table money if the show doesn't sell well.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Sept 7, 2022 12:33:31 GMT -5
Cornette has told the story of how the Road Warrior decided to change the finish and put over the Midnight Express in Memphis on their way to New York. This pissed off Jim Herd when he found out so the next night in St. Louis the boys changed the finish so Paul Ellering pinned Cornette despite neither actually being in the match because neither Hawk or Animal wanted to pin Stan or Bobby.
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Post by celtics543 on Sept 7, 2022 13:25:04 GMT -5
Didn't Scott Hall lose to Jericho in WCW one time in a call he made during the match?
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 7, 2022 13:32:27 GMT -5
Cornette has told the story of how the Road Warrior decided to change the finish and put over the Midnight Express in Memphis on their way to New York. This pissed off Jim Herd when he found out so the next night in St. Louis the boys changed the finish so Paul Ellering pinned Cornette despite neither actually being in the match because neither Hawk or Animal wanted to pin Stan or Bobby. Sounds about right. Cornette may be the one person Herd hated as much as he hated Flair, and he intentionally misled him for the sake of doing it at times, it seemed. The most notable example would probably be where Cornette would have been moved to commentary, something Herd kept pressuring him to do, and Cornette and Flair working out a plan that'd involve Cornette selling his stake in the Midnight Express so that Stan Lane and Bobby Eaton would join the Four Horsemen. Would have given Flair his trainee and a respected opponent, people he'd actually want in the group, and meant all parties involved would be getting what they wanted, Herd included. So, naturally, Herd changed his mind later for seemingly just the opportunity to spite both men, since f*** it.
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